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Old 2014-02-12, 17:50   Link #8461
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He did allow the people he hired to do their jobs. And they fired Chud. He thought that was stupid and took action (afterwards, mind you, but still).
Alright, I will give him that. We will must likely be talking to him again after the next season anyhow.

Lets shift the topic onto Brandon Weeden, he said he wants out of Cleveland, your thoughts on this?
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Old 2014-02-13, 23:32   Link #8462
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First, the Oakland Raiders and now the Cincinnati Bengals. Bengals cheerleader files lawsuit against the team.

Is it too early to say that we may see more NFL cheerleaders filing lawsuit against NFL teams?
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Old 2014-02-13, 23:41   Link #8463
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First, the Oakland Raiders and now the Cincinnati Bengals. Bengals cheerleader files lawsuit against the team.

Is it too early to say that we may see more NFL cheerleaders filing lawsuit against NFL teams?
Wouldn't be surprise, it does certainly seems like a Domino effect. Though I hope it would get resolved soon, a Football game without Cheerleaders is wrong and a crime just like dipping buffalo wings into ranch dressing.
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Old 2014-02-14, 08:31   Link #8464
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First, football without cheerleaders doesn't really affect you unless you're at the game. For home viewers, they show the cheerleaders once, maybe twice, per game for about 6 seconds each time.

Second, buffalo + ranch is delicious.
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Old 2014-02-14, 10:18   Link #8465
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First, football without cheerleaders doesn't really affect you unless you're at the game. For home viewers, they show the cheerleaders once, maybe twice, per game for about 6 seconds each time.

Second, buffalo + ranch is delicious.
Its not about it effecting Football play, its a matter of tradition.

Also, I know Buffalo Wings with ranch taste delicious. However, for a Football game, I believe in the matter of tradition that Buffalo Wings should only be dipped in Blue Cheese sauce or dressing. I was told that by my local Wings joint who made some mighty fine wings.
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Old 2014-02-16, 09:48   Link #8466
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Blue Cheese tastes like sour milk =\
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Old 2014-02-16, 11:30   Link #8467
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Well, the Wells report implicates more instigators and victims in the whole saga of Martin being harassed by Incognito. Wondering how many will take the fall for how this went down.
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Old 2014-02-16, 12:11   Link #8468
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Looks like they're going to have to rebuild their O-line.

Seen so many people call out Martin because he was messaging the same sort of stuff. Though it won't surprise me if the defense says Martin was just trying to conform to his environment/fit in.
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Old 2014-02-16, 12:16   Link #8469
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Though it won't surprise me if the defense says Martin was just trying to conform to his environment/fit in.
That's exactly what they said. Called it a "copping mechanism". Sorry, but that's entirely subjective and almost appears as if they're trying to come up with a reason to let Martin be the victim.

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Old 2014-02-16, 12:22   Link #8470
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Old 2014-02-17, 00:18   Link #8471
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Mock Draft (Jaguars): Will change based on free agent signings and possibly Pro Day and NFL combine reports

1st Round: DE Jadeveon Clowney, HT: 6-5, WT: 274 (South Carolina)
Pros:
  • Explosive Impact both in the center or away from the play
  • Ideal LEO
  • Versatile, can play any pass rusher role
  • A blend of great power, speed, agility, and technique
  • Extremely Disruptive against the pocket
  • Can take and succeed double teams often
  • Good size
  • Great attitudes towards coaches and teammates
  • Has durability and toughness to play through injury
  • Excellent tackler, can rag doll opponents
  • Great Football I.Q.
  • Possess instinct to bat down passes
  • Can bull rush
Cons:
  • Mild concern for issues off the field
  • Often gets taken out of plays by getting tripped up despite being able to avoid them
  • Small concern about motivation



2nd Round: OLB Kyle Van Noy, HT: 6-3, WT: 244 (Brigham Young)
Pros:
  • Very athletic and Muscular
  • Heavy Hitter Tackler
  • Provide good pass rush against the pocket from the inside or edge
  • Instinctive to close on passing routes
  • Scheme Versatile
  • Good overall technique in all direction and awareness
  • Excellent coverage and pursuit skill
  • Adequate Football I.Q.
  • Great SAM linebacker
Cons:
  • Very often too aggressive
  • Sometimes overshoots
  • Could approve shedding down blocks
  • Not as flexible as I would like



3rd Round: ILB Shayne Stov, HT: 6-3, WT: 245 (Standford)
Pros:
  • Excellent Shedding Blocks technique
  • Explosive
  • Disruptive, can get to the pocket easily between the tackles
  • Football I.Q.
  • Heavy hitter and possess good techniques tackler
  • Great patience and timing on blitz
  • Vocal, emotional, and inspirational leader
  • Fits very well on Special teams
  • Good awareness and recognition
  • Wonderful coverage skills and alertness
  • Very athletic
Cons:
  • Glaring injury history
  • Extremely aggressive to a fault
  • Still has not recover all of his explosive abilities after torn ACL



4th round: OG Anthony Sheen, HT: 6-3, WT: 310 (Alabama)
Pros:
  • An excellent pass and rushing protector
  • Can get to the second level often
  • Surprisingly agile and quick despite appearance
  • Possess technical sound blocking technique and devastating punch
  • Fits zone blocking scheme
  • Poise and good awareness picking up threats
  • Tough and durable
  • Wins many leverage battles
  • Very level headed
Cons:
  • Coming off shoulder injury
  • Sometimes losses his target when the battle of the trenches goes lateral
  • Could use more improvement to get to the second level
  • Has to improve extension
  • Sometimes get beat with a swim and swat


4th round: DT Daniel McCullers, HT: 6-7, WT: 348 (Tennessee)
Pros:
  • Monster height and length
  • Great strength
  • Ideally a 0 or 1 technique Nose Tackle
  • Draws double teams and even triple teams
  • Can bull rush
  • An anchor on the defensive line
  • Very durable and no injury history
  • Surprisingly well fit and lean
  • Excels in run stopping
Cons:
  • Sometimes gets out leverage
  • Not very athletic
  • Has the tendency to come straight off his stance
  • Can be effectively sealed up in double teams
  • Limited pass rushing ability


5th Round: QB David Fales. HT: 6-2, WT: 220 (San Jose State)
Pros:
  • Excellent accuracy
  • Good awareness in the pocket
  • Quick-footed in his drops
  • Good footwork and athletic
  • Quick arm
  • Possess foresight
  • Notable intangibles
  • Motivated to improve
  • Great leader, also vocal
  • Great toughness
Cons:
  • A short to medium passer, accuracy falls if passing over 15 yards
  • Sometimes eyes his receiver allowing defense to recovery to stop the play
  • Not versatile, will fit specific offenses
  • Sometimes throws on his back foot
  • Does not possess prototypical arm strength
  • Plays in Mountain West Conference
  • Not an immediate starter, will need development time


5th round: C Tyler Larsen, HT: 6-4, WT: 317 (Utah)
  • Football I.Q.
  • Possess sound technique in both pass and rushing protection
  • Consistent in leverage
  • Production is consistent
  • Good leadership
  • Good experience
  • Durable and tough
  • An anchor on the offensive line
  • Agile and quick for his size
Cons:
  • Plays Mountain West Conference
  • Not overly athletic and flexible
  • Does not have long arms
  • Venerable to swim moves
  • Not quick to recover


5th round: CB Antone Exum, HT: 6-0, WT: 220 (Virginia Tech)
Pros:
  • Heavy hitter tackle
  • Versatile, originally Free Safety
  • Good awareness
  • Excellent body control and ball skills
  • Can adjust when in the air
  • Surprisingly good back pedaling and movement
  • Great Special teams player
Cons:
  • Only a year of experience as a CB
  • Could be better in adjusting to different offensive schemes
  • Glaring attitude problems and a bit selfish
  • Coming off torn ACL

6th round: OG John Urschel, HT: 6-3, WT: 317 (Penn State)
Pros:
  • Good balance, body control, and leverage
  • Gets to the second level easily
  • Good awareness
  • Quick to engage
  • Excellent footwork
  • Notable intangibles
Cons:
  • Not very powerful, can be bull rush
  • Lacks ideal size
  • Plays short armed

7th round: FS Johnathan Dowling, HT: 6-2, WT: 205 (Western Kentucky)
Pros:
  • Can compete into the air
  • Large frame
  • Good hands
  • Linear fluidity
  • A play maker
  • Experience playing special teams
Cons:
  • Lanky, needs to build more muscle
  • Durability issues
  • Average awareness
  • Sometimes inaccurate with tackles
  • Tackles are often hit high
  • Glaring attitude problems, will need coaching to straighten that out

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Old 2014-02-17, 03:41   Link #8472
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I like that draft. While a lot of Jags fans wouldn't be fans of going all defense for the first three picks, it would go a long way in helping Bradley to find the talent to get the D where it needs to be. Only thing I'm not hot on is taking an ILB in the third round since we already have Poz. If we're going to draft a defensive player there I'd take a CB or if not a RB or WR. Or if Mettenberger is somehow still there I'd take him.

Also not sure about drafting a center. We could find one in free agency (not necessarily Alex Mack though, he's going to have a high price tag and you could probably find better value elsewhere).

I really hope the Texans don't take Clowney.
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Old 2014-02-17, 09:09   Link #8473
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I like that draft. While a lot of Jags fans wouldn't be fans of going all defense for the first three picks, it would go a long way in helping Bradley to find the talent to get the D where it needs to be. Only thing I'm not hot on is taking an ILB in the third round since we already have Poz. If we're going to draft a defensive player there I'd take a CB or if not a RB or WR. Or if Mettenberger is somehow still there I'd take him.

Also not sure about drafting a center. We could find one in free agency (not necessarily Alex Mack though, he's going to have a high price tag and you could probably find better value elsewhere).

I really hope the Texans don't take Clowney.
You'll be surprise, when I was scouting Tyler Larsen, he to me, seems like one of two immediate starters out of the draft. The other is Travis Swanson. Though I am worried that he plays Mountain West Conference, he dominated his competition. Showing great techniques and skill set. Enough for me to consider him over Swanson. He is severely overlook, also, I read some other people's scouting reports after making a decision to draft him. Many were keen on him, even stating he was the best out of the centers in this draft. Also, there are very few centers in free agency. Expect even value free agents to come at a premium price.

As for Shayne Stov, he is a great player. He has the skill set of a 1st round talent and could be an immediate starter, however, if you saw the videos, he is too aggressive. He takes too many chances. He is still recovering from injury. Also, Paul Posluszny is almost 30, how much will he have in the tank after 3 years or so? It would be smart to draft someone to help him in rotation and to learn from him to eventually replace him. If Stov gets healthy and level his aggression, he is a potential Pro Bowler talent.

Mettenberger I like a lot, however, even injured, many teams will be selecting him in either the 2nd or 3rd. A bit to high on someone whom you cannot use immediately especially concerning what talent are on those rounds. David Fales is a good Prospect, he is a 3rd round prospect but will most likely fall 4th or 5th because once the tops Quarterbacks are taken, most of the Quarterbacks will not be looked to draft and will be signed at minimum price as Undrafted Free Agents.

As for Cornerbacks, there is a lot to love about this class, however, when scouting many of them. All of them are not immediate starters and will need at least a 1 year or more development time. We already have two development projects already on Cornerbacks in Harris and McCray. While I love Alan Ball, we need someone that is younger and allow Ball to play in rotation. It would improve our secondary a lot. Antone Exum is considered a 3rd round prospect, but his attitude is what has dropped him significantly to the 5th round by many. Other than that, he could win to be the starter for the right cornerback alongside Gratz.

I would not select a Runningback in this draft, this draft class is very good for runningbacks, enough that even quality ones will be undrafted.

Also, Suzuku, your turn for the mock draft.

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Old 2014-02-17, 12:44   Link #8474
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Mock Draft (Jaguars): Will change based on free agent signings and possibly Pro Day and NFL combine reports

1st Round: DE Jadeveon Clowney, HT: 6-5, WT: 274 (South Carolina)
Pros:
  • Explosive Impact both in the center or away from the play
  • Ideal LEO
  • Versatile, can play any pass rusher role
  • A blend of great power, speed, agility, and technique
  • Extremely Disruptive against the pocket
  • Can take and succeed double teams often
  • Good size
  • Great attitudes towards coaches and teammates
  • Has durability and toughness to play through injury
  • Excellent tackler, can rag doll opponents
  • Great Football I.Q.
  • Possess instinct to bat down passes
  • Can bull rush
Cons:
  • Mild concern for issues off the field
  • Often gets taken out of plays by getting tripped up despite being able to avoid them
  • Small concern about motivation



2nd Round: OLB Kyle Van Noy, HT: 6-3, WT: 244 (Brigham Young)
Pros:
  • Very athletic and Muscular
  • Heavy Hitter Tackler
  • Provide good pass rush against the pocket from the inside or edge
  • Instinctive to close on passing routes
  • Scheme Versatile
  • Good overall technique in all direction and awareness
  • Excellent coverage and pursuit skill
  • Adequate Football I.Q.
  • Great SAM linebacker
Cons:
  • Very often too aggressive
  • Sometimes overshoots
  • Could approve shedding down blocks
  • Not as flexible as I would like



3rd Round: ILB Shayne Stov, HT: 6-3, WT: 245 (Standford)
Pros:
  • Excellent Shedding Blocks technique
  • Explosive
  • Disruptive, can get to the pocket easily between the tackles
  • Football I.Q.
  • Heavy hitter and possess good techniques tackler
  • Great patience and timing on blitz
  • Vocal, emotional, and inspirational leader
  • Fits very well on Special teams
  • Good awareness and recognition
  • Wonderful coverage skills and alertness
  • Very athletic
Cons:
  • Glaring injury history
  • Extremely aggressive to a fault
  • Still has not recover all of his explosive abilities after torn ACL



4th round: OG Anthony Sheen, HT: 6-3, WT: 310 (Alabama)
Pros:
  • An excellent pass and rushing protector
  • Can get to the second level often
  • Surprisingly agile and quick despite appearance
  • Possess technical sound blocking technique and devastating punch
  • Fits zone blocking scheme
  • Poise and good awareness picking up threats
  • Tough and durable
  • Wins many leverage battles
  • Very level headed
Cons:
  • Coming off shoulder injury
  • Sometimes losses his target when the battle of the trenches goes lateral
  • Could use more improvement to get to the second level
  • Has to improve extension
  • Sometimes get beat with a swim and swat


4th round: DT Daniel McCullers, HT: 6-7, WT: 348 (Tennessee)
Pros:
  • Monster height and length
  • Great strength
  • Ideally a 0 or 1 technique Nose Tackle
  • Draws double teams and even triple teams
  • Can bull rush
  • An anchor on the defensive line
  • Very durable and no injury history
  • Surprisingly well fit and lean
  • Excels in run stopping
Cons:
  • Sometimes gets out leverage
  • Not very athletic
  • Has the tendency to come straight off his stance
  • Can be effectively sealed up in double teams
  • Limited pass rushing ability


5th Round: QB David Fales. HT: 6-2, WT: 220 (San Jose State)
Pros:
  • Excellent accuracy
  • Good awareness in the pocket
  • Quick-footed in his drops
  • Good footwork and athletic
  • Quick arm
  • Possess foresight
  • Notable intangibles
  • Motivated to improve
  • Great leader, also vocal
  • Great toughness
Cons:
  • A short to medium passer, accuracy falls if passing over 15 yards
  • Sometimes eyes his receiver allowing defense to recovery to stop the play
  • Not versatile, will fit specific offenses
  • Sometimes throws on his back foot
  • Does not possess prototypical arm strength
  • Plays in Mountain West Conference
  • Not an immediate starter, will need development time


5th round: C Tyler Larsen, HT: 6-4, WT: 317 (Utah)
  • Football I.Q.
  • Possess sound technique in both pass and rushing protection
  • Consistent in leverage
  • Production is consistent
  • Good leadership
  • Good experience
  • Durable and tough
  • An anchor on the offensive line
  • Agile and quick for his size
Cons:
  • Plays Mountain West Conference
  • Not overly athletic and flexible
  • Does not have long arms
  • Venerable to swim moves
  • Not quick to recover


5th round: CB Antone Exum, HT: 6-0, WT: 220 (Virginia Tech)
Pros:
  • Heavy hitter tackle
  • Versatile, originally Free Safety
  • Good awareness
  • Excellent body control and ball skills
  • Can adjust when in the air
  • Surprisingly good back pedaling and movement
  • Great Special teams player
Cons:
  • Only a year of experience as a CB
  • Could be better in adjusting to different offensive schemes
  • Glaring attitude problems and a bit selfish

6th round: OG John Urschel, HT: 6-3, WT: 317 (Penn State)
Pros:
  • Good balance, body control, and leverage
  • Gets to the second level easily
  • Good awareness
  • Quick to engage
  • Excellent footwork
  • Notable intangibles
Cons:
  • Not very powerful, can be bull rush
  • Lacks ideal size
  • Plays short armed

7th round: FS Johnathan Dowling, HT: 6-2, WT: 205 (Western Kentucky)
Pros:
  • Can compete into the air
  • Large frame
  • Good hands
  • Linear fluidity
  • A play maker
  • Experience playing special teams
Cons:
  • Lanky, needs to build more muscle
  • Durability issues
  • Average awareness
  • Sometimes inaccurate with tackles
  • Tackles are often hit high
  • Glaring attitude problems, will need coaching to straighten that out
I go to Virginia Tech and another con you missed is that Exum's been struggling through injuries these past 2 seasons. He tore his ACL last season in January and then injured his ankle back in November shortly after returning from rehab for his ACL. Would David Fales be your QB of the future? I agree he'd need some time to develop so I'm guessing you're seeing the Jags pick up a veteran QB in FA?
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Old 2014-02-17, 13:31   Link #8475
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I go to Virginia Tech and another con you missed is that Exum's been struggling through injuries these past 2 seasons. He tore his ACL last season in January and then injured his ankle back in November shortly after returning from rehab for his ACL. Would David Fales be your QB of the future? I agree he'd need some time to develop so I'm guessing you're seeing the Jags pick up a veteran QB in FA?
Thanks for the info, I checked my notes, funny thing is I forgot to add it. I do not think that the Jaguars will search for a Veteran QB in free agency. Henne is probably the best we can get at the price.

Are you going to do a mock draft as well for your team?
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Old 2014-02-17, 13:34   Link #8476
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You'll be surprise, when I was scouting Tyler Larsen, he to me, seems like one of two immediate starters out of the draft. The other is Travis Swanson. Though I am worried that he plays Mountain West Conference, he dominated his competition. Showing great techniques and skill set. Enough for me to consider him over Swanson. He is severely overlook, also, I read some other people's scouting reports after making a decision to draft him. Many were keen on him, even stating he was the best out of the centers in this draft. Also, there are very few centers in free agency. Expect even value free agents to come at a premium price.

As for Shayne Stov, he is a great player. He has the skill set of a 1st round talent and could be an immediate starter, however, if you saw the videos, he is too aggressive. He takes too many chances. He is still recovering from injury. Also, Paul Posluszny is almost 30, how much will he have in the tank after 3 years or so? It would be smart to draft someone to help him in rotation and to learn from him to eventually replace him. If Stov gets healthy and level his aggression, he is a potential Pro Bowler talent.

Mettenberger I like a lot, however, even injured, many teams will be selecting him in either the 2nd or 3rd. A bit to high on someone whom you cannot use immediately especially concerning what talent are on those rounds. David Fales is a good Prospect, he is a 3rd round prospect but will most likely fall 4th or 5th because once the tops Quarterbacks are taken, most of the Quarterbacks will not be looked to draft and will be signed at minimum price as Undrafted Free Agents.

As for Cornerbacks, there is a lot to love about this class, however, when scouting many of them. All of them are not immediate starters and will need at least a 1 year or more development time. We already have two development projects already on Cornerbacks in Harris and McCray. While I love Alan Ball, we need someone that is younger and allow Ball to play in rotation. It would improve our secondary a lot. Antone Exum is considered a 3rd round prospect, but his attitude is what has dropped him significantly to the 5th round by many. Other than that, he could win to be the starter for the right cornerback alongside Gratz.

I would not select a Runningback in this draft, this draft class is very good for runningbacks, enough that even quality ones will be undrafted.

Also, Suzuku, your turn for the mock draft.
I'm waiting till after the combine for some official measurements and things.

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I go to Virginia Tech and another con you missed is that Exum's been struggling through injuries these past 2 seasons. He tore his ACL last season in January and then injured his ankle back in November shortly after returning from rehab for his ACL. Would David Fales be your QB of the future? I agree he'd need some time to develop so I'm guessing you're seeing the Jags pick up a veteran QB in FA?
We're resigning Henne.
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Old 2014-02-17, 23:31   Link #8477
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This off season has really been quiet. I haven't seen any breaking stories of franchise tags or any big signings aside from Suggs.
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Old 2014-02-17, 23:42   Link #8478
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Thanks for the info, I checked my notes, funny thing is I forgot to add it. I do not think that the Jaguars will search for a Veteran QB in free agency. Henne is probably the best we can get at the price.

Are you going to do a mock draft as well for your team?
Probably not, but I may make one once FA and the combine happen. Right now, the Redskins have a draft pick in every round except the first. I think we need to focus on defense in the early rounds of the draft then follow up with a few linemen to add depth with a linebacker or two. The combine is this weekend and I'll be keying in on the safeties and defensive backs available. Not sure what Snyder is going to pull in FA, but need to keep Orakpo on the roster. We do have some cap room that will allow us to resign a few free agents and let go of guys like Adam Carriker and Tyler Polumbus.
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Old 2014-02-17, 23:47   Link #8479
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Probably not, but I may make one once FA and the combine happen. Right now, the Redskins have a draft pick in every round except the first. I think we need to focus on defense in the early rounds of the draft then follow up with a few linemen to add depth with a linebacker or two. The combine is this weekend and I'll be keying in on the safeties and defensive backs available. Not sure what Snyder is going to pull in FA, but need to keep Orakpo on the roster. We do have some cap room that will allow us to resign a few free agents and let go of guys like Adam Carriker and Tyler Polumbus.
Man, the Redskins have a tough year looking ahead. I think they will get back on their feet sooner than most would think, however, there will be some problems.

I am also planning to update my mock draft after the combine, maybe even a week after the combine. Still wondering if people prefer I embed the videos on the post instead of posting links. Though I think 10-20 video posts will cause problems.
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I vastly prefer links, because embedding videos makes the page load slower and takes up bandwidth (which can be an issue at work).
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