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Old 2019-06-11, 13:20   Link #1
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Trials of Mana [Switch]

https://gematsu.com/2019/06/seiken-d...-switch-and-pc

I've been waiting for a remake of Seiken Densetsu 3 but.....dang, now I gotta buy a switch
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Old 2019-06-11, 13:39   Link #2
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I'm crying... I play this when I was a little kid... get stuck forever in Ghost ship
and only completed it many year later when someone release the English patch ( and gamefaqs )
one of my very first JRPG... so the children of mana theme really struck right into my feeling
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Old 2019-06-11, 14:22   Link #3
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The nostalgia. I loved the fan translation and playing that original version. Sign me up for doing it again in a remade game that I can actually buy and own this time. It was a great experience. I loved the various characters you could pick and the differences depending on who you picked.

Will figure out what system I'll pick it up for when it is closer to release. Though I should just pick up a Switch at some point.
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Old 2019-06-11, 21:08   Link #4
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Hmm, interesting... I'm listening. As long as a game doesn't get too popular and Square Enix's uppers' eyes turn into dollar signs, they usually do a good job... I guess.
(Other than delaying Final Fantasy until the next era or whatever they do)
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Old 2019-06-11, 21:44   Link #5
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Awwww..... I don't have a Switch..... I'm not buying one just for this. T_T
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Old 2019-06-12, 00:39   Link #6
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Awwww..... I don't have a Switch..... I'm not buying one just for this. T_T
They also release this for PC and PS4
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Old 2019-06-12, 03:06   Link #7
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Oh? Nice! The article I read only mentioned the Switch.

Now lets just hope it isn't a bug ridden mess like the Secret of Mana remake was.
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Old 2019-06-12, 04:19   Link #8
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The nostalgia. I loved the fan translation and playing that original version. Sign me up for doing it again in a remade game that I can actually buy and own this time. It was a great experience. I loved the various characters you could pick and the differences depending on who you picked.

Will figure out what system I'll pick it up forr when it is closer to release.
Same for me. Back then Seiken Densetsu 3 were one of the couple of games I used to play more than once, ignoring the games I replayed when nostalgia mood hit me. Not sure whether to get it on PC or PS4; this will probably depend in which direction my work related future will lead me.
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Old 2019-06-12, 04:59   Link #9
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Right... this game replay value is very high
six character three main different plot/ last boss and a class system.
As long as the fight system isn't mess up or grind gest then it good to go
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Old 2019-06-12, 09:43   Link #10
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Yep one of this game's major strong points is you have at minimum three playthroughs to get out of this bad boy. Usually more. With the party customization and the ability paths there's many ways to play and you can tweak the difficulty by deliberately choosing a certain style.

I'll be interested in seeing how the music turns out.
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Old 2019-06-12, 12:09   Link #11
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Nintendo Live Mana right now !
everything is still the SAME !!
Map Soundtrack and Event

the only different is battle system which seem to be easier since we can dodge now

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Old 2019-06-13, 15:45   Link #12
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Old 2019-06-14, 01:28   Link #13
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That really is beautiful. It is that classic with a beautiful remade world. I never even thought we'd get this game over here officially. And now it is on the horizon in such a great form. I could see myself just coming back to this game over and over. All the more so thanks to the variety you can get depending on who you go through the story with.

Can't wait...although I'll have to .
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Old 2019-06-15, 08:28   Link #14
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^ same man. Same.

I still remember the days of playing games like this the on ZSNES emulators.

Game Informer had a run down whats new and it's changes in the remake:

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Earlier today on Nintendo's E3 presentation, Square Enix unveiled both Collection of Mana and Trials of Mana remake, marking the first time that the third Mana game has been released in America. Collection of Mana includes Final Fantasy Adventure and Secret of Mana, which have both been released in the U.S., and now Trials of Mana, which had previously only been known as Seiken Densetsu 3. In addition, much like the Secret of Mana remake before it, Trials of Mana is also getting a fully 3D remake for modern platforms.

We had a chance to sit down today with Masaru Oyamada, producer of the Mana series, and got to learn a few things about the remake and how it came to be.

1. Trials of Mana, both in the remake and the original incarnation, allows you to pick from six characters for your protagonist with their own origin stories. Then you pick two compatriots that join your protagonist's story as party members and you explore some variation of their quests. Each protagonist has a different quest, like the knight Duran chasing down a wizard that attacked his castle, or the Werewolf Kevin being stymied by a killer Jester as he seeks to save his father's kingdom.

2. The decision to remake Trials of Mana and bring the Collection of Mana over was because of feedback from the western side of Square Enix. While the remake has been in the works for a while, the western branch of the company suggested that it would make sense to bring the 2017 Switch anthology over as well for fans who would prefer the original.

3. The game looks a lot better than 2018's Secret of Mana remake. When the remake for Secret of Mana released, it looked a lot like a low-budget remake that did not accurately translate the art from the SNES classic. With Trials of Mana, the developers wanted to put their best foot forward for the game's first introduction to western shores, so there was an engine change to Unreal Engine 4 and more resources put into making it look good.

4. The partner A.I. has improved since previous games. Taking feedback (and complaints) from other Mana titles, the developers have overhauled the A.I. for Trials. We only got to see a boss fight with extra A.I. partners, but the extra partners managed to attack the boss, the Fullmetal Hugger, in his weak points with attacks and spells pretty competently.

5. The full game will be voice acted and will allow players to choose between English and Japanese voice acting.

6. Unlike the SNES original, there is no co-op in this version. The developers say they want to focus on the single player part of the game, so you won't be going through this one with your friends.

7. On the other hand, switching between any three of your party members is seamless and easy. Trials of Mana is definitely an action RPG and each characters looks to have a different play style. Some characters focus on magic or quick hits or big strong sword attacks or a combination of magic and melee, so playing through all the origin stories will feel different in terms of gameplay.

8. The story is not exactly the same as it was on the SNES. While the basic structure is the same, there will be an expansion on the ideas within it. For purists, the original version is out on Switch still, letting the team feel more comfortable reimagining the title.

9. The developers had no idea there was a cult following in the West thanks to a fan translation at first. After the project was greenlit, the developers began searching on the internet about it and found the fan translation for the first time.

10. The producers want to remake the entire series eventually, so there may be something for Legend of Mana if Trials of Mana sells well. They also want to eventually make new Mana games that channel the series' origins better.

11. While the Secret of Mana remake was not on Switch, Trials of Mana is thanks to fan feedback over the lack of Mana on the console. Oyamada said that Collection of Mana was Switch-exclusive because they had to actually get the code for the games from Nintendo, meaning the Switch made sense.
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Old 2019-06-15, 12:24   Link #15
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Sad that we cannot coop anymore but

Good Part is 8 I really hope they add something like more character interaction to the game

what surprise me is they didn't even notice the rest of the world Seiken 3 cult...

they really need to step up their game and look into their JP exclusive SNES era game more as a lot of good one never come out of Japan
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Old 2019-06-15, 12:27   Link #16
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Man when was the last time I played Seiken Densetsu 3? Might have to give it a play before this comes out.

*remembers huge backlog of games already*

Errrr.......
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Old 2019-06-16, 03:57   Link #17
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On another note, big kudos to the interpreter lady. I study technical translation (MA) and we had thanksfully our only interpretation classes to get an insight. As an introvert, it borderd heavy on my comfort zone (even in the relaxed atmosphere we had in the course). So I have quite the respect for this work field.

As for the game itself: I kinda hope they remodel Lise's skill sets. I remember using her a few times in my party, but hardly bothered with most of her buff/debuff spells. On the other hand, if the remake ventures deeper into the active combat aspect - as was shown -, I won't be surprised if her spells may become more valuable in such a setting.
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Old 2019-06-16, 11:09   Link #18
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Honestly I thought Lise's buff skill set was very useful on boss fights. Especially since I'd often have Hawk in the party as well and build him in his debuff style to supplement Lise's buff build. Debuff the boss, buff the party and we have major damage.
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Old 2019-06-16, 12:53   Link #19
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As for the game itself: I kinda hope they remodel Lise's skill sets. I remember using her a few times in my party, but hardly bothered with most of her buff/debuff spells. On the other hand, if the remake ventures deeper into the active combat aspect - as was shown -, I won't be surprised if her spells may become more valuable in such a setting.

Her buff is actually very useful in some boss fight,
the very first time I finished this game is a 30 minute fight against Dragon Emperor as my team damage is just too little to hurt it due to his stat debuff
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Old 2019-08-22, 13:00   Link #20
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Gamescom gameplay:

https://gematsu.com/2019/08/trials-o...-2019-gameplay
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