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Perfect 10 | 25 | 36.76% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 24 | 35.29% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 15 | 22.06% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 4 | 5.88% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2013-02-03, 02:31 | Link #121 | ||
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Still, the threat of being shot by a Dominator has proven sufficient to keep such radical elements at bay. Remember that just about any revolutionary force can only succeed through the consent of a good bulk of the people living under an established rule. At most, they only exist as pests to be snuffed out. Quote:
But like I said, this is all speculation on my part, no different from your own claims.
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2013-02-03, 03:13 | Link #122 |
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One thing I'm curious about - Is this anime slated for the new noitaminA standard of 22 episodes? I ask because this current arc has felt like a climatic arc to me.
However, I hope it is 22 episodes, because at a world-building level, I think there are a lot of important questions that ideally will be answered (and any extra episodes after this current arc concludes could serve to answer them). Perhaps the most pertinent is what the world as a whole is like in Psycho-Pass. I get the impression from some of what Gu Seung has stated that Sybil is not a global system. For all we know, it might not even exist outside of Japan. Let's say it doesn't exist outside of Japan. Well, if it doesn't, Japan would want to give it the best "public face" possible so that other countries don't hold Sybil against Japan. Perhaps that could explain why you have all human Law Enforcement officers and no armies of robots/droids patrolling the streets. "See, Mr. American President, our Sibyl system has given us a very civilized and humane social order. In spite of the misgivings many of the politicians from your country have expressed about Sybil, we have not turn into a people without spirit that relies too much on machines."
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2013-02-03, 03:29 | Link #124 | |
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2013-02-03, 03:54 | Link #125 | ||
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and on a side note, have you noticed how many animes keep popping up with the same theme? I mean every season we get at least one anime, with a dystopian controlling society. It would seem that this is a big subject in japan either way. Quote:
I say the crushing majority of people are deep down animals, but luckily for the society, most of us have this savage side under control. However, the scanners look past the outward appearance and measure directly whats going on inside your mind. Hence, I wonder, how come the majority of people manged to turn from potential criminals to meek, mellow, no-bad-thoughts-having sheep? Of course if the sybil system was in place for centuries, you could argue, that humans became this meak through decades of selective breeding. All the individuals with violent tendencies were taken out of circulation and only unproblematic people were allowed to reproduce.... but thats not the case here, is it? |
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2013-02-03, 04:20 | Link #126 | ||
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2013-02-03, 04:46 | Link #127 | |
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Sure there might be countermeasure to the jamming device but the key here is that their society is entirely reliant on their security system. If it fails, which it has not for quite a while, then there is nothing they can do about it. Just look at how little police force they have with ten to twenty officers pfffft. Do they really have the resource to counter a genius hacker in less than a day? I do agree that something more should have been done once they saw the helmet.
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2013-02-03, 06:59 | Link #128 | |
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Don't give me that "Makishima isn't bored", there's a difference between all the plots he does, and the killing-for-no-reason that he does. |
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2013-02-03, 07:11 | Link #129 | |||||
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Certainly you'd need some kind of immunity if you were gonna try something on the scale that Makishima tried, i.e, manufacturing HUNDREDS of high tech pieces of electronic equipment and distributing them to a large group of people. But if you wanted to make something more low tech than that when you should have access to mail order parts (people with crime coefficient seem to be able to hide it by staying at home) and 3D printing? For a potential dissident, there's too much hypothetical payoff to not try this kind of stuff. Quote:
"HEY! Somebody might not like us!" is hardly an ungrounded assumption. Quote:
Frankly those are MUCH bigger assumptions than anything I've come up with. Quote:
This is completely independent of something like a psycho-pass scan. All a robot would need to rely on is its normal optics and sensors. If the facial recognition software is good enough to identify one humans face from another, then identifying such a conspicuous looking helmet is relatively trivial. Quote:
"If a murderer never murdered anybody he wouldn't be a murderer" is about the most intellectually worthless idea I've heard all week.
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2013-02-03, 07:52 | Link #130 | ||
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The thing about needing Yayoi is that a good deal of people there already had a bad hue whether they were involved in the incident or not, so they needed her to pinpoint exactly where to find those targets they were looking for. Quote:
Obviously, trade is the minimum necessity of foreign interaction. But that doesn't mean that foreign influence can't be limited in every other way. One way is by closing the gates on foreign immigrants and tourists. Another is by drastically limiting exposure to foreign ideas. It's all a matter of effective information control.
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2013-02-03, 08:59 | Link #132 | |
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Anyways I was thinking of more direct things like low crime rate, but high suicide rate & high confession rate but not necessarily all these confessions are true. This is just things I've been reading recently about Japan that Gen could be criticizing. Then again he could be criticizing something much more broader about society always following and not questioning things as well. I would honestly love to hear his thoughts on this as I would feel it would give a fuller appreciation of the series that maybe I am missing (not that I don't appreciate the series). On another note I don't think Japan has anymore dystopia stories than other countries. It seems quite common in science fiction in general.
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2013-02-03, 14:27 | Link #133 | |
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And though we haven't really heard much about suicides in Psycho-Pass, I believe it's common knowledge that Japan's high suicide rate is a result of its strong social pressure and stress (which also seems to be the reason for all the hikikomoris and whatnot), which brings to mind the conversation Makishima and Senguuji had in episode 7, about how, under the Sybil System, people's sense of stress has numbed so much they can't even recognize stimulation anymore (and thus life expectancy levels have decreased). In other words, I suppose the Sybil System could also be seen as a possible drastic measure against the previously high levels of pressure and stress, only the results haven't been good in the sense that they've now reduced people to the other extreme, which is also quite dangerous. Though you could also say that the Psycho-Pass system is actually a new source of social pressure and perhaps one greater than ever before, due to the constant pressure of keeping your hue unclouded for the sake of society (Ginoza is a good example of this), which sometimes, as we've seen, even becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy that results in making "criminals" out of people who otherwise might not have become so. |
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2013-02-03, 14:38 | Link #134 |
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It's possible Urobuchi is criticizing aspects of a collective society but there are strengths and weaknesses of both an individual and collective society. Japan is also not the only country in the world with that type of culture. Also I haven't necessarily seen anything in the story where "lack of individuality" is the problem here.
Good point about the suicide rate and the lack of stress in the Psycho Pass world edit: well I guess you can say the sybil system has taken away the people's free will which is a form of individuality.
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2013-02-03, 18:20 | Link #137 |
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For Shion as I said this is the only in team that has no risk of getting killed ... unless terrorist decided to destroy the main building "BAC" where all work
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2013-02-03, 19:50 | Link #138 |
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Of course, now that I've said Shion will be fine, watch next episode prove me wrong and she gets offed
ETA: I watched fifteen.....I didn't see anyone going into where Shion's at...or does she work at the Ministry? I forget. Spoiler:
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2013-02-03, 22:58 | Link #139 | ||
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Also if Sibyl is alive, then the fact that the city has no riot police/military/etc, is probably on purpose. . .to keep the people from shutting it down and "killing" it. Last edited by CJ_Walker; 2013-02-03 at 23:09. |
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2013-02-03, 22:59 | Link #140 | ||
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Granted, the sibyl system might already be on its last legs with Makishima's actions, but it's possible that nothing will change at all, so long as the problem doesn't even become bigger than it is currently.
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