2007-02-20, 01:42 | Link #23 |
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Sadly most Madhouse shows do not have many action scenes, such as Death Note, Paradise Kiss for instance and I don't much like the action in some of their other shows like X. However they did do Getbackers and Gunslinger Girls so I am hopeful. With a record like that we won't really know what we're getting until it happens.
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2007-02-20, 02:16 | Link #24 |
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Madhouse's not one to be consistent on their action animation scenes. Saiunkoku Monogatari for one has some of the worse action scenes I've seen in anime. Black Lagoon's action quality increases and drops depending on the episode, but it's nothing epic for a one-cour show. However, shows like Sakura Taisen, Getbackers, Hajime no Ippo are also testament to how they can produce quality action scenes when they feel like it...or rather when they aren't killing their staff animators by telling them to draw scenes for 10 animes at a time. :P
If anything, I'm slightly worried at how they're planning to end Claymore. The manga-run at this point is far from ending, and there's only one point in the manga currently that could work as a standalone to-be-continued ending without feeling too out of place. But naturally, even that answers nothing.
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2007-02-20, 03:33 | Link #25 |
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Huh? Wasn't Getbackers by Studio Deen?
I think it's not quite fair to judge a particular studio for not being able to come up with action scenes. While some studios build up a particular image and do have a forte in certain things (like Ghibli and BONES) I don't think Madhouse is one of them since they do such a humongous range of things in very differing quality. The same studio did Tokyo Godfathers, Death Note, Kemonozume and Okusama wa Joshikousei - all extremely extremely different shows in terms of aesthetic and content... I might be wrong, but I think with Madhouse it depends more on the main creative staff, and depending on how much control they wield over the individual episodes' staff, then it's also up to those people. Then again the production of anime's more complex than that, it also depends on the demands of the producers and the budget and schedule too...
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2007-02-20, 05:13 | Link #26 |
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Wow, for people to say that Madhouse is not good with action anime just shows how ignorant some people are of what Madhouse is. Madhouse is Kawajiri's studio, famous for movies like Vampire Hunter D, Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust, Ninja Scroll, X and TV series like Trigun, Gungrave, Ninja Scroll TV and X TV. They're also the ones behind the animation for the Animatrix shorts World Record and Program.
If there's anything that Madhouse *is* famous for, it's for intense action packed anime. Just because they handle about 6 shows per season and their recent projects aren't action packed types of show doesn't mean it's not their speciality. |
2007-02-20, 09:24 | Link #27 |
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Vampire hunter D: Bloodlust=Movie
Ninja Scroll=Movie X tv=Pretty good action scenes but very short most of the times Trigun=ok animation Gungrave=ok animation Ninja Scroll=ok animation Madhouse has really good animation when they put effort in it. They show this in their movies. But I haven't seen fights that blew me away in their tv series. X tv came closest with that. I loved X tv's action scenes but they were so short. |
2007-02-21, 13:58 | Link #28 | |
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Hajime no Ippo is easily of the best action anime TV series there is, with some of the best fight scenes out there and consistently good animation. Madhouse = king of action scenes. The main problem with TV series is that there isn't always enough funding. |
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2007-02-21, 15:32 | Link #29 | |
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2007-02-21, 16:21 | Link #30 |
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Forgot about those. I've seen them. Hajimme no Ippo was awesome because of the characters and story. Action scenes were good (like the guy with the shotgun who beat that dude, awesome fight), but not all the fights had good animation. A lot of re-used animation too.
Kemonozume wasn't that hard to animate since it has no to little detail. Fights were nothing special IMO. Haven't seen Paranoia Agent. But you're right about the funding. Madhouse has shown that they're really good. Why not trust them and give them a bigger budget. |
2007-02-22, 10:25 | Link #32 | |
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Anyway, Madhouse with budget and Kawajiri/Rin Taro = awesome fight scenes, Madhouse with no budget and Korean outsourcing = speedlines at dawn. Here's hoping it's the former (Claymore has pretty decent circulation, right? Should be able to get some decent sponsors) |
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2007-02-22, 11:36 | Link #33 |
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Screenshots look pretty nice, though I admit my skepticism toward a show that features monster won't go away until I see a few episodes of it. I won't even ask how did you manage to get your hand on the screens., or will I?
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2007-02-22, 13:41 | Link #35 | |
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2007-03-03, 21:33 | Link #37 | |
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Hmm, maybe my expectations are a little too high? |
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2007-03-04, 02:31 | Link #38 |
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I think her overall design in those shots looks great, but I haven't really seen an awful lot of the manga since I'm more of an animation person. That angle always seems to be bad for human noses lol.
I really like the rather unique (I can't even think of the right descriptive word, since I know so little about art) style of the designs for the human characters displayed in those shots, and detail and shadow work on them, the style and the color palette seem more like the style used in anime movies rather than tv shows which I think is going to be a treat. If the third shot is reminiscent of the action scenes I think this show is going to be awesome and well funded. It looks like perhaps the "weighty" shots will be augmented with something much more cinematic than speed lines and at the same time will keep the real background and thereby not take us out of the environment, I love this style and it's pretty rare for obvious reasons. Scrapped Princess often did this for the sword fights and I loved how smooth and exciting it made the action flow by not taking me out of the moment. From these screens it certainly wouldn't surprise me if that were the case, I love the more movie-like camera angles like in shot #5 and the close personal shot in the last one since there's just something about it that I think makes it feel heavier than usual, perhaps it's the color and line work, almost making it feel more detailed than it really is. (Then again these are shots and not screenshots from media player heh) Perhaps someone else can put it better into words (when looking at the last 5 shots), but there's just something great and different thanks to the adaptation artist and the original manga artist, camera choices, and colors that gives the look of the show something a bit more "anime-film like". Edit: I don't mean that they'll be able to do it like an feature, since that's just asking for disappointment, but more in that style than the typical TV series, if that makes any sense |
2007-03-04, 02:51 | Link #39 | |
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Whoa, these shots are love. I think that, with Madhouse, it goes like this: Manga is good -> Anime is good (and sometimes better). They've become experts with adaptations, having exciting direction tricks and different camera methods which bring the manga to a new level (examples: Death Note, Monster, NANA?). Let's hope they'll do the same with Claymore.
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2007-03-04, 12:02 | Link #40 | |
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Any news about the anime series length? I have read till volume 10 of the manga, I don't remember any point where it's suitable to put an ending. |
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