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Key Board · 2013-12-29, 22:57

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Originally Posted by DuelGundam2099

I seriously don't get what Key Board is trying to revefence.

metal gear solid series
the basic premise is some people have been fighting all their lives and only know how to fight (like L-Elf)
these people can't just put down their guns and become farmers/integrate back into society/whatever
yet, these people are easily cast away by their own government when no longer needed
one the major characters decides to make a PMC nation where his kind can survive

I bring this up, because M77 is basically in a similar situation, now.
They are feared by the world, but they don't have their respect or compassion
And with the political climate right now, I don't think they can rely on donations

So in think, one of the ways to survive and gain resources is to become a PMC nation

LightDragonman · 2013-12-30, 04:17

Heh, I've compared the new nation to Outer Heaven for a reason. XD

ReddyRedWolf · 2013-12-30, 08:59

What is interesting is that all three concurrent Mecha series (Majestic Prince, Suisei no Gargantia and Valvrave) subverts the Understanding Ending.

Co-existence is an ideal. Differences that can't be reconciled make it very difficult for reconciliation.

For the Magius it is being parasite space vampires. Their idea of co-existence is humanity's submission.

While Liselotte wanted equal coexistence we don't know if she had a plan or if it would work.

The Magius has publicly shown themselves evil by framing Module 77 when they are the ones manipulating the world by possessing its leaders.

They were too stupid for their good.

The Third Galactic Empire leaving Earth makes sense. While there are disagreements at least they would let each other live and let live.

~~DuelGundam2099~~ · 2013-12-31, 15:16

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What is interesting is that all three concurrent Mecha series (Majestic Prince, Suisei no Gargantia and Valvrave) subverts the Understanding Ending.

MJP and VVV maybe, but Gargantia? The hideauze stopped dying once Ledo found out their origins.

erdii · 2014-01-01, 19:42

well ending sounds logical but I hate ending where MC dies. what should I name this series as wasted time ? well at least I liked the characters. I hope to remember them if I saw them again in other media.

FateAnomaly · 2014-01-02, 04:43

I don't quite get it. Did they exterminate the magius or did they co exist with them?

Terrestrial Dream · 2014-01-02, 08:38

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Originally Posted by erdii

well ending sounds logical but I hate ending where MC dies. what should I name this series as wasted time ? well at least I liked the characters. I hope to remember them if I saw them again in other media.

What are you talking about? L-Elf survives

~BC~ · 2014-01-02, 09:57

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Originally Posted by FateAnomaly

I don't quite get it. Did they exterminate the magius or did they co exist with them?

IIRC, nothing was difinitively said about them being wiped out though the way Akira tells the story has led some viewers to thinking otherwise. I seriously doubt it myself. More likely the whole which hunt may have forced the non-Council affiliated Magius to reconsider co-existing with the Kamitsuki. That could work as a good starting point should the series be allowed any new material.

erdii · 2014-01-02, 15:30

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Originally Posted by Terrestrial Dream

What are you talking about? L-Elf survives

well that is the only good thing

blakstealth · 2014-01-02, 20:55

Saki best girl

Kriemhild best woman

that is all.

LightDragonman · 2014-01-02, 23:25

Indeed. They deserved more than being shoved aside for the latter, and left to be tortured for the former.

~BC~ · 2014-01-03, 10:44

Sadly, Kriemhilde being shoved aside was probably the main reason she survived.

ReddyRedWolf · 2014-01-07, 09:47

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Originally Posted by DuelGundam2099

MJP and VVV maybe, but Gargantia? The hideauze stopped dying once Ledo found out their origins.

They don't have understanding yet as there is no medium of communication. There is still the question of sapience.

In space no as Chamber eloquently pointed out the survival choices made the Galactic Human Alliance and Hideauze radically opposed to each other.

mechalord · 2014-01-11, 13:41

They didn't kill the immortal teens and the Magius can inhabit new bodies.

My guess is that the translucent green bodies belong to artificial magius bodies, designed just in case human rose up against them. If this series gets a movie...

Season 3 or movie:

Haruto comes back. His memories are with the Magius girl in his robot. She'll get pregnant and birth him. in a new cloned body. He'll come back as a Magius.

playmaker2k · 2014-01-12, 00:14

They should at least give us an ova to clean this up.

On a different note, the voting poll results for this episode is amazing.

I don't think I've see a mixed bag like this in AS.

View Poll Results: Valvrave the Liberator 2 - Episode 12 [END] Rating
Perfect 10	16	13.33%
9 out of 10 : Excellent	13	10.83%
8 out of 10 : Very Good	24	20.00%
7 out of 10 : Good	16	13.33%
6 out of 10 : Average	14	11.67%
5 out of 10 : Below Average	7	5.83%
4 out of 10 : Poor	7	5.83%
3 out of 10 : Bad	7	5.83%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad	5	4.17%
1 out of 10 : Painful	11	9.17%
Voters: 120. You may not vote on this poll

2014-01-01, 19:42	Link #585
erdii Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Turkey	well ending sounds logical but I hate ending where MC dies. what should I name this series as wasted time ? well at least I liked the characters. I hope to remember them if I saw them again in other media. __________________

2014-01-12, 00:14	Link #595
playmaker2k Nishikino Maki (￣▽￣) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: I shall reveal it to you.	They should at least give us an ova to clean this up. On a different note, the voting poll results for this episode is amazing. I don't think I've see a mixed bag like this in AS. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KKAxfF1aug

2013-12-30, 04:17	Link #582
LightDragonman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013	Heh, I've compared the new nation to Outer Heaven for a reason. XD

2013-12-30, 08:59	Link #583
ReddyRedWolf Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006	What is interesting is that all three concurrent Mecha series (Majestic Prince, Suisei no Gargantia and Valvrave) subverts the Understanding Ending. Co-existence is an ideal. Differences that can't be reconciled make it very difficult for reconciliation. For the Magius it is being parasite space vampires. Their idea of co-existence is humanity's submission. While Liselotte wanted equal coexistence we don't know if she had a plan or if it would work. The Magius has publicly shown themselves evil by framing Module 77 when they are the ones manipulating the world by possessing its leaders. They were too stupid for their good. The Third Galactic Empire leaving Earth makes sense. While there are disagreements at least they would let each other live and let live.

2014-01-02, 04:43	Link #586
FateAnomaly Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007	I don't quite get it. Did they exterminate the magius or did they co exist with them?

2014-01-02, 20:55	Link #590
blakstealth Les Pays Bass Join Date: Jun 2011	Saki best girl Kriemhild best woman that is all.

2014-01-02, 23:25	Link #591
LightDragonman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013	Indeed. They deserved more than being shoved aside for the latter, and left to be tortured for the former.

2014-01-03, 10:44	Link #592
~BC~ Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Sadly, Kriemhilde being shoved aside was probably the main reason she survived.

2014-01-11, 13:41	Link #594
mechalord Deploying Funnel Cakes Join Date: Jan 2008	They didn't kill the immortal teens and the Magius can inhabit new bodies. My guess is that the translucent green bodies belong to artificial magius bodies, designed just in case human rose up against them. If this series gets a movie... Season 3 or movie: Haruto comes back. His memories are with the Magius girl in his robot. She'll get pregnant and birth him. in a new cloned body. He'll come back as a Magius.