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Old 2018-05-31, 19:46   Link #1
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Assassin's Creed Odyssey

The next game of Assassin Creed's franchise has been teased, titled "Asasssin's Creed Odyssey".

https://twitter.com/assassinscreed/s...31391789617152

E3 trailer is out


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Old 2018-05-31, 21:47   Link #2
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Can't say I'm really happy that we still lurk in Antiquity when there are a hell lot more places, cultures, and eras to visit in the Assassin's Creed franchise.

I still want my Assassin's Creed: Rising Sun game, and I'm still mad at one of the developers for shitting on the mere idea of Japan a few years ago. His comment was so short-sighted when there is plenty of settings to choose within the Tokugawa and Meiji periods.
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Old 2018-05-31, 23:19   Link #3
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Heard it might be a sequel to Origins but I am really hoping it goes back further and is set in the Greece of Alexander the Great
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Old 2018-06-01, 12:36   Link #4
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Heard it might be a sequel to Origins
Acually, the ^ (a chevron) seen in the Assassin sigil would be a rudimentary "lambda", which is itself a direct reference to the "L" of "Lacedemonia" AKA Sparta (the Lambda gave birth to the chevron, which was later taken up by the heraldic tradition and is now still used by the military).

Which means that this might actually be a PREQUEL to AC:O, that is, if Ubisoft is serious about using Spartans (that teaser video's 300 reference could be a sign pointing in that direction), because Sparta sort of ebbed away as a regional power around 146 BC, when the Romans defeated and annexed it. Afterwards, it became kind of a tourist curiosity (yes, Greece was actually a popular touristic destination for Romans) instead of the big, tough-talking nation that once pulled Athens to its knees (Sparta started to really decline after the battle of Leuctra in 371 BC, where it suffered a defeat by Thebes, and avoided wars afterwards because it knew it'd have trouble fighting them, especially with a society where helots were becoming FAR more numerous than the free citizens **) and secured an immortal legacy with the Battle of Thermopylae.

So we might actually going back in time, maybe 100 years before Bayek or even before that. Which makes you wonder what is the true origin of that chevron-like symbol: was it the Lambda of Sparta or the shape of a falcon's skull, seen from below? Retcon ahoy? Was Origins not the origin? Or will the protagonist be something like the "Last Spartan" the same way Bayek was the "Last Medjay"?

Anyway, Ubisoft probably decided to go full Antiquity when it was assured that Origins was a resounding success and a sign that getting closer to modern times with every new game was probably not the way to go (too familiar or uninteresting, mayhap)...though I'm certain this decision was made years before Origins was even completed, given the time a studio needs to pump out a full game (and its massive regions) like Origins.

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but I am really hoping it goes back further and is set in the Greece of Alexander the Great
If I'm right about all of the above concerning the Spartans, this might be a small historical issue because Philip II and Alexander actually avoided conquering Sparta, from wariness over their highly militaristic reputation and culture...so you'll have to find a way to make Sparta intervene into the Macedonian conquest...which they did not.


** Some surprising insight on what the Spartans really were like:
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Old 2018-06-01, 20:27   Link #5
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Ugh.... so the rumors were right.

Still waiting for that AC set in feudal Japan....
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Old 2018-06-02, 12:28   Link #6
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That brief scene in the video make it look like it will be set during Greco-Persian Wars against Xerxes. Guess with them telling the origins of the assassins brotherhood in origins, they are now going back to show the origins of the hidden blade in Odyssey.
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Old 2018-06-05, 06:14   Link #7
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Really like Origins so I am excited for this one. Greece sounds like a great location.
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Old 2018-06-08, 20:34   Link #8
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Tonight we dive into hay cart !
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Old 2018-06-11, 16:20   Link #9
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E3 trailer is out


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Old 2018-06-11, 16:33   Link #10
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u know what, I may actually buy a new AC game since 4, hot damn
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Old 2018-06-11, 17:04   Link #11
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1. So we return to the deuteragonist angle (Evie/Jacob) introduced in Syndicate.
2. UI and character customization (gear/skills) clearly shows that this is Origins 1.1 or 1.5.
3. Mercenaries are an expy of Origins' Phylakitai.
4. Looks like we are in the Peloponnesian war, which pitched Athens against Sparta.
5. Hundreds of NPCs fighting each other? Excellent, the American Revolution battles in AC3 were impressive (for their time) and I wouldn't mind seeing such large-scale events back. That is, if they don't cause your PC to crawl to a standstill. AnvilNext is bloated and inefficient enough as it is.
6. Combat is still a copy-paste from Origins.
7. A Minotaur? Hell yes - though I believe it will once again be part of a dream/hallucination or a multidimensional construct born from Isu techno-witchcraft. If there is a mythology-related DLC, I'm sold. Again.


I am pleased by this additional trip in Antiquity, though I'm afraid that with every new iteration, these AC games are losing more and more of their AC identity. Sure, that can be chalked up to the Brotherhood (its tenets, rituals and other hallmarks) not being invented yet (200-300 years later) and we are therefore left with a more freewheeling game...but sometimes I wonder if it wouldn't be smarter to just create a separate franchise rather than just slap the "Assassin's Creed" logo on it. Sure, that spear/dagger is obviously an Isu artifact but I wish there was something that'd make me say, "ah, yes, now THIS is Assassin's Creed."

That said, I'm looking forwards to discovering what else they've cooked up.
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Old 2018-06-11, 17:33   Link #12
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I'm surprised. I was expecting the fight against Xerxes which introduced the hidden blade but this is 30 years after that. Or the fight against Alexander the Great but this is 110 years too early for that.

I wonder if there will be different storylines if you picked either the female or male character
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Old 2018-06-12, 01:26   Link #13
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Some additional info courtesy of Kotaku:

1. Gender choice has no influence on the overall story.

2. Multiple romance options and dialogue choices (You can romance both male & female regardless of your gender).

3. Instead of the hidden blade you carry the Spear of Leonidas (a first civ artefact) as your main stealth weapon. Apparently there is one skill that allows to stealth kill a target with a throw and teleporting to it (think Shadow Strike from Shadow of Mordor/War).

4. Gear can be enhanced through engravings.

5. Boat battles are back. You can find & customize your crew/boat.

6. You have some influence on the 27 states of greece depending on who is dominating that state (Atheneans/Spartans).

7. There will be more optional modern day segments with Layla.

8. You can argue with Socrates about morals & philosophy.


So basically Ubisoft looked at Bioware and said to themselves:"If you don't do it, we will." (looking at you Anthem).
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Old 2018-06-13, 14:28   Link #14
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Interesting. Having seen the video from E3, I'm getting more interested in giving this one a shot.
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Old 2018-06-14, 01:43   Link #15
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A couple criticisms and concerns I have:

- Given the short amount of time spent for development between Origins and Odyssey, I'm afraid that Odyssey will be little more than Origins 1.1, with only a few innovations (like that teleporting strike) in between...and a different vista.

- I'm not fully sold on the RPG dialogue, it sounds more like a
  • Let's go do it now.
  • Let's do it later, I wanna do something else now.
  • Gimme information now so that I can choose 1° or 2°.
menu. They say it'll have some impact on the story, but I'm not 100% sold on that (at least the choice impact won't have the scale of Dying Light 2).

- Ubisoft claims it'll be the largest map ever, larger than even Egypt. I however believe we'll have another Black Flag-type cop-out as most of the map will be water (to add insult to injury in BF, very little of the islands could be traversed; they simply had "tunnels through the jungle" built in that led the player to the objective). Sure, there'll be wrecks to explore and ships to attack, but I hope it won't be that bad (the rest of Greece is highly mountainous, so there won't be much to explore there). Granted, Egypt also had a large amount of desert and uninhabited areas between points of interest, but at least it felt well-furnished.


EDIT:

- Someone on Reddit managed to piece together what appears to be the complete map: https://i.imgur.com/mg08UQM.jpg
As I thought, there's a lot of water there, although there's also enough islands to keep you busy (I would consider myself placated if the map was actually denser in terms of content, compared to Origins, rather than more expansive). I'm a bit disappointed that they didn't include a piece of Asia Minor, it'd have been fun to have a small Troy mission (maybe in a DLC? hopefully?)...not to mention than Ionia (West coast of Turkey) was involved in the Pelopponesian War.
- Mentions of underwater ruins easily call to mind Atlantis, even though the latter is nothing more than a failed and stillborn attempt by Plato (Socrates' student, which we might also meet in the game) to illustrate a perfect Greek society (one that eventually fell to corruption) and prop up his arguments on good governance to current Greek states (most specifically, Athens).
- The Minotaur's presence means we'll have a mission or chapter in Crete.
- There is an active volcanic area (probably not Thera, since that devastating eruption took place a 1,000y or so prior - though there might be underwater ruins to explore in the Thera area).
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