(L) Dungeon ni Deai o Motomeru no wa Machigatte Iru Darou ka (LN)

[DerDoppelganger]

Originally Posted by zerodragon

Spoiler for "":

man that messed up! I feel bad for leyifa since Filvis was her closest elf friend and someone she admired plus i heard she was eaten alive! Well i wonder who going to help her deal with this. What the hell did dionsys do to get himself killed!!!

Spoiler for Spoilers:

Ein snapped her neck before throwing her to the Violas, so she didn't suffer much. The only thing left was an arm.

So far, all the clues lead to Demeter being Enyo.

[NeutralZero]

Read the synopsis and it really is brutal
Now why did it mentioned ryuu was with hermes familia when this whole thing happened.
Wasnt ryuu with bell in the dungeon while this whole thi ng is going on?

Spoiler for spoiler:

did they just hint demeter to be enyo and ais owes fryeya which is not a good thing in its own way

[DerDoppelganger]

Spoiler for Spoilers:

Ryuu was part of the Knossos subjugation party until she spotted Jura and his group trying to escape, following them into the Dungeon.

Said group framed her for murder in Rivira, leading to the events of volume XIII and XIV, and she hasn't returned to Knossos ever since.

[silenceblade]

I wonder how many members are in Enyo's group? Revis and the demi-spirits appear to only be allied with Enyo and Ein.
If Enyo really is a god that must mean she has a Familia working for her.

The storyline appear to changing mode now. Now that Filvis and Dionysus both moved on, I wouldn't be surprised that more important development happen in the main storyline. For example, what will happen once Bell reaches level 6? At that point, Bell will be too strong for his current party. What changes would occur once Syr's real identity is reveal?

Well, there is no need to change the current setting of the storyline (for now that is).

[Tachibana]

Bell should already be on the borderline between level 4 and level 5. Hell, he's probably already stronger then a 5 in his present state.

[AP24]

Originally Posted by Tachibana

Bell should already be on the borderline between level 4 and level 5. Hell, he's probably already stronger then a 5 in his present state.

I doubt Bell has reached from 0 stats to that point from just one expedition. But Lv4 Bell is capable of defeating a Lv5. I'd say Bell will reach Lv5 after everyone else in the familia has leveled up and they are strong enough to go to the 37th floor.

[Chaserjacksaw]

Hello~, Well Its kind of a late question....but can someone spoil what happend in volume 14 with Ryuu & Bell, just the main key scenario that happen in the vol.
But mostly I just want to know what kind of development happen with Ryuu x Bell that lead to Ryuu finally calling him by his given name!....in detail!!! Pls! T_T..........

(dammit I should really study japanese soon)

[NeutralZero]

^You can try going to the wikia page of danmachi
synopsis for that volume was already post there including the part that you want to know

[silenceblade]

I wonder how much adventurers does it take to defeat a floor boss?

If we exclude Bell and Ainz, floor boss are too strong to be defeat one-on-one. Considering their size and healing power, floor bosses are design to battle armies. Ottar was stated to be equal to a level seven boss while Ryuu and Asfi were distraction for a level five boss. I think it is safe to say the special monster like the Juggernaut are stronger in a one-on-one battle than floor boss.

[bakato]

Not all bosses had regen like the one in volume 5.

[Zefyris]

if we exclude "bell and ainz"
Bell Isn't strong enough to defeat ANY floor boss. Level 6 and 7 adventurers are probably all strong enough for the regular floor 17 floor boss though, and some are strong enough for lower floor boss, as Ainz proved it.

Also, like mentioned, the healing power that floor 18 boss had was something irregular, even for a floor boss.
The juggernaut is a different type of opponent. The problem is its speed and the fact that its attacks cannot be blocked or parried and must be therefore all dodged.
A floor boss requires a large coordinated party, the juggernaut is a party wiper, as you could gather 1,000 adventurers, if they aren't fast enough to react they're totally useless.
Juggernaut is requiring instead one or two adventurers that are able to react to its speed and avoid being killed.
The Juggernaut is therefore stronger than the floor 37's floor boss on one vs one because the floor 37 floor boss cannot react to it nor protect from it.
However, the floor boss 37 is nowhere near weak enough to allow a single or two adventurer to kill him just because they're fast. That's because the Floor 37 floor boss is super tanky like all floor boss, whereas the Juggernaut is super fragile.

Totally different type of monster and being able to defeat one doesn't mean you can defeat the other. Juggernaut is weak to fast melee opponent, and will dominate groups that use the classic tank/dps/healer combination, as it's almost impossible to stop him from ignoring the tanks and kill the healers right off the bat.
Floor bosses are weak to large coordinated parties, and have mechanisms making them almost impossible to be taken down by too few peoples except if said peoples are far higher levels than what is normally required.

[AP24]

Originally Posted by Zefyris

if we exclude "bell and ainz"
Bell Isn't strong enough to defeat ANY floor boss. Level 6 and 7 adventurers are probably all strong enough for the regular floor 17 floor boss though, and some are strong enough for lower floor boss, as Ainz proved it.

Also, like mentioned, the healing power that floor 18 boss had was something irregular, even for a floor boss.

Actually the 17th floor boss is normally Lv4 so Bell is strong enough to defeat it alone.

[Zefyris]

Originally Posted by AP24

Actually the 17th floor boss is normally Lv4 so Bell is strong enough to defeat it alone.

Level4 Bosses are not the same as level 4 normal monsters. The floor 17 boss is not equivalent to monsters you'll find in floor 37+. Especially since floor 37+ 's difficulty mainly comes from the amount of enemy you'll have to fight at the same time; and that a solo level 4 adventurer will NOT survive floor 37. Bell and Ryu (who is pretty much level 5 in term of capacities) were barely able to escape with their life normal encounter there, and they used many tricks that an adventurer usually wouldn't have, like bombs that were taken from the group that made the juggernaut spawn, and using a floor 37's monster drop item as camouflage to avoid fighting. Even like that it was sheer luck that allowed them to find a place to rest properly.
And it's not just because they were wounded, as even after resting in that secret place, they were still super wary of encountering group of monsters.

[AP24]

Originally Posted by Zefyris

Level4 Bosses are not the same as level 4 normal monsters. The floor 17 boss is not equivalent to monsters you'll find in floor 37+. Especially since floor 37+ 's difficulty mainly comes from the amount of enemy you'll have to fight at the same time; and that a solo level 4 adventurer will NOT survive floor 37. Bell and Ryu (who is pretty much level 5 in term of capacities) were barely able to escape with their life normal encounter there, and they used many tricks that an adventurer usually wouldn't have, like bombs that were taken from the group that made the juggernaut spawn, and using a floor 37's monster drop item as camouflage to avoid fighting. Even like that it was sheer luck that allowed them to find a place to rest properly.
And it's not just because they were wounded, as even after resting in that secret place, they were still super wary of encountering group of monsters.

And what exactly is your point? The 17th floor boss is Lv4 and is just one monster, so Bell should be capable of defeating it alone.

[Endscape]

Originally Posted by AP24

And what exactly is your point? The 17th floor boss is Lv4 and is just one monster, so Bell should be capable of defeating it alone.

The point is that simply because the Goliath is categorized at Level 4 doesn't mean that a Level 4 adventurer can defeat it alone.

[AP24]

Originally Posted by Endscape

The point is that simply because the Goliath is categorized at Level 4 doesn't mean that a Level 4 adventurer can defeat it alone.

A Lv5 adventurer clearly can defeat it easily as shown in Vol 8, so a Lv4 adventurer should be on par at least. The current Bell is much stronger than normal Lv4 adventurers and clearly has the firepower to defeat at least a Lv5 monster so I'd say Bell is capable of defeating a Goliath on his own.

[Endscape]

Originally Posted by AP24

A Lv5 adventurer clearly can defeat it easily as shown in Vol 8, so a Lv4 adventurer should be on par at least. The current Bell is much stronger than normal Lv4 adventurers and clearly has the firepower to defeat at least a Lv5 monster so I'd say Bell is capable of defeating a Goliath on his own.

Tsubaki cut off an arm, she didn't defeat it singlehandedly, not to mention it was already injured and tired from fighting. Just because Bell could handle the Moss Huge on his own doesn't mean he could singlehandedly defeat the Goliath, who has the advantage of being ridiculously big and much tougher.

[AP24]

Here's what I've gathered on the number of adventurers in Orario.

-There are thousands of adventurers and more than half of them are Lv1
-The number of upper-class adventurers is probably hundreds or a thousand at most and half of them are Lv2
-There are at least 25 confirmed first-class adventurers and the actual number is probably 30-40

So here's probably how adventurers in Orario would rank overall.

Lv6: top 1%
Lv5: top 3%
Lv4: top 10%
Lv3: top 20%
Lv2: top 40%

Bell currently should be in the top 5% and so is Ryuu, which makes them very high-ranking among all adventurers in Orario. I'd say anyone who is at least Lv4 would be high-ranking.

[Kazu-kun]

On a related note, Sword Oratoria volume 11 pretty much confirms Revis is as strong as Ottar. This means Ais must surpass Ottar if she hopes to defeat Revis.

[Chris_Main]

Originally Posted by AP24

-There are thousands of adventurers and more than half of them are Lv1
-The number of upper-class adventurers is probably hundreds or a thousand at most and half of them are Lv2
-There are at least 25 confirmed first-class adventurers and the actual number is probably 30-40

So here's probably how adventurers in Orario would rank overall.

Lv6: top 1%
Lv5: top 3%
Lv4: top 10%
Lv3: top 20%
Lv2: top 40%

If more than half of the adventurers are level 1, how can lv2 through lv6 make up more than 50% ?