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Old 2008-10-24, 10:26   Link #1
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Best way to create vectors?

When i make a vector it always comes with endless flaws, i never seem to be able to make all layers match flawlessly.
I use to work on photoshop, should i use other tool for making vectors?
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Old 2008-10-24, 12:37   Link #2
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When i make a vector it always comes with endless flaws, i never seem to be able to make all layers match flawlessly.
I use to work on photoshop, should i use other tool for making vectors?
Can you provide an example? Much easier to give feedback that way.

You could also try Illustrator instead of Photoshop. Though, I have never tried that program myself.

EDIT:

Funny, looking at your avatar made me remember someone (another member) from a while back.
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Old 2008-10-24, 14:54   Link #3
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I vector with the pen tool in CS2, adjusting my brush setting and my brushes while I use the pen tool to stroke the necessary lines I need. Other than that, I don't really have any other technique.

I haven't used Illustrators like Daniel.E has mentioned. (I have it but have never used it)
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Old 2008-10-24, 19:47   Link #4
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Mostly my vector never look pro enough and the flaws make me get tired of it sooner or later
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Old 2008-10-24, 20:28   Link #5
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Oh, I just remembered where I had seen that vector in your avatar.

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=66043

You posted the completed one in the Claymore image thread, right?

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Mostly my vector never look pro enough and the flaws make me get tired of it sooner or later
I still think it would be interesting to see the piece in question.... If only to make things a bit easier to understand.
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Old 2008-10-25, 09:05   Link #6
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Thats a really well made vector. I don't get what you meant by flaws and not looking pro enough, because you pretty much did everything you can to the sketch; the shading, details and colors are well done. If you want to challenege yourself though (it probably won't be so hard for you), maybe trace the outlines too. Using the 'stroke' option with the pen tool can be o.k. in some cases, but tracing the outline IMO looks better. It might take some time, but I believe its worth it.
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Old 2008-10-25, 10:07   Link #7
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I think im doing vectors the wrong way:

1 - I create a layer with all drawing lines (i make a tracing with a 3rd party program).
2 - I import that layer into photoshop.
3 - I start creating layers for each colored area below that layer (e.g.: skin base, skin shadows, skin shine...).
4 - After sometime: Unmatched areas everywhere, distorted lines, garbage everywhere, you may not notice in the resized version but the full resolution image is garbage only.

Maybe i dont know how to make vectors and i have no clue about making shading out of nothing.

Here's one piece i made (i quite dropped it a lot of times before reaching that unpleasant version):


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Old 2008-10-25, 12:44   Link #8
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I am sorry to say, but not many people around here are going to trash an awesome piece like that.

Regardless, I am gonna play along wth you a bit more and give you a final tip. If you want to raise you bar even more, watch the work of other people and try to learn something from them.



Oh and before I forget........

Tracer and vectorers (for the most part) do not vandalise images out of ill will. This is something some folks do for the pure and simple fun of it.
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Old 2008-10-25, 13:27   Link #9
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Nah i think i lack talent both for drawing (nearly 0) both for shading...to reach something decent it takes way too much time for me...

Btw i still use Adobe Photoshop 7.0 (duh?)...will i gain anything if i change to a newer version?
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Old 2008-10-25, 15:32   Link #10
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When i make a vector it always comes with endless flaws, i never seem to be able to make all layers match flawlessly.
I use to work on photoshop, should i use other tool for making vectors?
I am not an expert but I use Illustrator. It's great, really. Better than PS when it comes to do vectors IMO.

There is only one problem, you need a graphic tablet if you want to use the pressure in Illustrator.
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Old 2008-10-25, 18:31   Link #11
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Illustrator uh? I'm poor
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Old 2008-10-26, 11:10   Link #12
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Illustrator uh? I'm poor
You can still try it I guess. There is a Trial version, no?

Illustrator is great. You really should try it
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Old 2008-10-26, 18:36   Link #13
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Yah, i might "try" it
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Old 2008-10-27, 12:50   Link #14
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Yah, i might "try" it
Hope you will give us/me some feedbacks about it then :O

And BTW, the vector you posted in this thread is really nice :thumb:
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Old 2008-10-27, 15:18   Link #15
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The image i posted in thread is not a vector, its a wallpaper, the original vector is this one:

http://gallery.minitokyo.net/view/356328

All the shading of the picture was made without any reference so its not perfect <.<
The vector was made directly over the pencil drawing...
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Old 2008-10-27, 15:25   Link #16
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The image i posted in thread is not a vector, its a wallpaper, the original vector is this one:

http://gallery.minitokyo.net/view/356328
Is it you who made this vector? This is beautiful

edit: You edited your post Good job, really
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Old 2008-10-27, 15:35   Link #17
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Yeah the vector was made by me, yet i didn't make the original pencil drawing...
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Old 2008-10-28, 22:27   Link #18
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Use Illustrator. Best advice I can give you.
The paths are always there so you can fix/adjust lines and shapes whenever you like.
Plus, everything made in Illustrator can be resized as much as you want so you could make ******* x ******* sized wallpapers if you wanted too.
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Old 2008-10-29, 11:50   Link #19
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Im not used to illustrator but i have other vector programs i can use...

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Old 2008-10-29, 13:08   Link #20
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Why did you edit your message I was about to reply to it.

Me, when I create a vector, I trace the outline. I put all the layers in a group named "outline".

Then about the colors, i create a group named "shapes" under the first group and I zoom on the outline, so for the contour of each "path" I just put the anchor points under the outline.

I am not an expert though, here a wallpaper I made ^^

2560X1600

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