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This tends to happen MUCH more quickly with crack then it dose with realism in fact any crack that morphs into a real story tends to quickly discard allot of the crackish elements and take on more logic and realism. Also trying to bring militarism into this isn’t even really what’s at issue this is more about logic and realism verses just doing whatever seems “cool” or some such. Militarism really only comes up at all because Nanoha has military elements that some people would prefer be handled more realistically. Yeah too much of either is bad but drinking to much whiskey will kill you allot faster then too much water will. Quote:
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Also the bike isn't much of an option when it's 20 miles too and from you school and five miles over hilly terrain to the nearest grocery store. On the plus side those lovely winding hilly roads have no houses on them and are pretty much empty after about 6 PM and the cops never come around them... Quote:
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Also welcome too the new guy saw you pop into IRC tonight, but you didn't get to hang around much and we seem to have confused you with our Call of Duty 4 discussion. The IRC will for lack of an actual topic related to Nanoha to discuss tend to drift rather rapidly onto anything that interests a majority of the people present. If you acutally pose such a topic we'll usually snap back... usually. As Aaron said though IRC can be a nice place to get some quick feedback but a typed up and cohesive post combing it all into something whole is also important.
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Welcome to the OC-thread, Mirron. I hope you enjoy your stay here and have fun.
Well, everything that needs to be said has been said, but I would like to make one adition: IRC is not a requirement to join in on this thread. I myself have never gone to IRC, nor do I plan to, and I manage here just fine. Of course, if you want to go to IRC, then by all means go. Quote:
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That's not really a fair comparison, now is it? You compare a bit of miltaku crack to Kha's biggest crack project to date. A more accurate comparison would be to lay Kha's initial Rebuilt next to ATC's fics, especially his earlier ones. Those were so filled with jargon that they frankly became a task to read. |
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Ok... it's been a while since I saw the first Naruto arcs... Ah! And those are from Princess Princess? Now I know where I saw that one... my Brother and his Girlfriend where talking to me about that one. Quote:
Can't add much to the stuff that already was said. Ah yes... good old spelling. Back then Belka was Velka and Raising Heart was Raging Heart. :3 But more and more official sources proved me wrong. You are still free to use Velka though. Oh... and as you may find out, I am the official Belka Scriptor of the OC. So if you ever need a translation into german for spells, I'm at your service. Quote:
I thought we only have Kerokanon, Militaku and Khrack! Oh and Mirron just to show how free you are in terms of setting. I have a Dark Future Setting I call Nightfall wich takes place some years after StrikerS, everything is more or less destroyed and some of the main cast are dead or missing, an ancient evil has taken control over Midchilda and the remaining free people live underground. Think of the Terminator future... only without Terminators but with more Deathknight like mages instead. Quote:
In A's there are those creatures that are big enough to have a Linker Core, but could not use magic. Maybe they used mana for something different.
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2008-06-16, 04:38 | Link #1264 |
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I'd say those creatures couldn't use magic simply because they lacked the knowledge how to do so. Having a Linker Core doesn't mean you automatically know how to cast magic, Nanoha would have lived just like any other person had she not encountered Yuuno.
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2008-06-16, 04:40 | Link #1265 | |
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My setting is namend Nightfall not Midnight thanks for reminding me. *changes in above post* how embarrassing...
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2008-06-16, 04:52 | Link #1268 |
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That's because Nanoha has quite a lot of mecha anime references not to mention that a good portion of OCers are big mecha geeks. (I am not one tho)
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2008-06-16, 05:05 | Link #1269 | ||
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Now to fight off Khrack of Nanoha/Zero, featuring loli-Precia, Quint, Megane, Kia, Lindy, Leti, Kyla and Momoko, oh baby Carym, and of course the harem hero, shouta Touareg. Quote:
And hellow there Rayne! Like to join us in the fun?
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Hell look at Tiger Woods; he's the closest thing to an Ace in the real world, he has plenty of fans, loads of people at the grassroots are wowed by him (like the Forwards wowing the grunts)... and his peers cackle with glee every time he screws up, because he makes them all LOOK BAD. I will repeat what I posted on the previous page: "Also, regarding realism: Realism tends to waver in Nanoha. On one hand it's a Magical Girl show, so realism as per laws of physics is already bent, if not outright broken. On the other hand, human interactions remain the same - there's nothing to show that there's any difference between the humans of our reality and humans in Nanoverse, which means that, for example, the entire Bureau loving RF6, even the people who RF6 makes to look bad, would not be realistic - regardless of Keroko says. "I speak from experience: My Dad was in a similar position to the Aces in the church and enjoyed tremendous grassroots support, and was in the running to be the next Bishop of the Diocese - basically, the Boss. Almost everyone who he hadn't trained pretty much disliked him because he was an outsider who came in, did the job, got it done, and made them all look bad simply by doing a damn good job." Quote:
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Even so I was always willing to give the thicker portions of a BJ protection roughly in line with ballistic fibers IE they'd help a little, but they wouldn't stop high velocity bullets or serious edged weapons. Basically a good thick jacket over your torso would be about on par with a bullet resistant vest AND it would provide a hell of allot more protection from magic. Quote:
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And at least he was using mostly established terms you could probably look up. Kha's crack sometimes only makes sense in his own head or if you know the plot of a half dozen different shows... He has this nasty habit of throwing out ideas or concepts without really explaining them properly which makes them nearly impossible to understand at times. He also has the habit of never making up his damn mind I've been in this thread for about ten months now and I STILL couldn't tell you straight up what the hell Kha's powers, or history, or role is becasue it seems to shift by the hour. It's part of why I don't really use him since if you put him in a fic chances are whatever you version you use will be retconned into oblivion within a month... He's on what the fifth version now? I really think Kha just needs to set his alter ego and start frikkin writing already.
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2008-06-16, 07:26 | Link #1272 |
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Part of the problem with trying to make things "realistic" is that the canon is not realistic as such.
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2008-06-16, 09:35 | Link #1273 | |
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My folks have gotten it into their heads to remodel the office, so I'll be out of an internet connection for a while. Looks like I'll be whipping up a Backlog Breaker sometime in the future, but until then....
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--the Comacanon timeline: A still-in-development timeline aimed at shaping post-A's canon into something completely different from the disappointment that was StrikerS by altering key events in the A's-to-StrikerS timeskip. While the details are still being sorted out, features being included for certain include an interdimension crime syndicate, the de-shafting of Hayate Yagami, two new Aces, a bigger, badder, and more psychotic Jail Scaglietti and an army of new Gadgets and a few new cyborgs to go with the deal, and a complete remaking of StrikerS canon. Plotted events include the halting of Jail's attack on the press conference, an event which has been included in order to prevent Jail from getting his hands on Vivio and launching the Cradle; both it and Vivio's relic will most likely be needed post-StrikerS. This is done by an emphasis in the storyline on the Ground Forces version of the SAFA: Durandal, a special weapons and tactics group focused on creating counters to mass-based weapons, AMF technology, and improving the firepower available to the average army mage through the usage of experimental devices called Hardsuits. More details to come, but for now, anticipate a heaping helping of mecha musume in this crazy little division, especially where Subaru is concerned...
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To quote the passage: "Ancient Belkan practitioners generally equip defensive attire known as “Knight Armor”, but the Guardian Knights wear “Knight’s Garb”, designed by Hayate. (Concerning this, details can be found in the “Book of Darkness Incident” data files) Similarly, the Unison Device Reinforce II dons Knight’s Garb when advancing to the front lines. As fitting the support-type Reinforce II, although it does not provide top-class protection, Knight’s Garb allows for more agile maneuvering." That's a fucking Slam dunk as far as I'm concerned BJ are not the upper tier of defense and there main downsides are probably there vulnerability to physical weapons. Quote:
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2008-06-16, 11:15 | Link #1276 |
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Gah here we go again... ><
Anyway, Kha was pretty constant. In fact, I still draw heavily on the 3rd Ed Codex I made for him. Only problem was, it was made during the Khrack era, so some parts on hindsight made me facepalm and want to change things... ...then came all the Khrack being pedalled around here. >.> All the hype you hear from me and around us, is all Alpha-testing and Play-Testing. Like an MMO, only the released version is official, as the alpha changes every weekend. A little habit of mine that I picked up from Blizzard. <.< So let's put it this way: Until I get the next codex out, the 3rd Codex stands. As for the 3rd Codex... Eat your heart out, all 44MB of it, for a limited time only.
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I would like to point out, Keroko, that only you came up with the interpretation that I was saying that everyone would be hating RF6. You did not read my post fully. I said everyone who RF6 had made to look bad and who would be competing with RF6 would be hating them. Everybody else got the point except you, so IMO in this case it's your problem, not mine. I did not say that everybody would hate RF6, I was saying that everybody who RF6 made to look bad, or would be competing with, would hate them. Quote:
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Edit:Wait, wait, wait, Comartemis. SAFA-like unit? Tactics and gear testing? DURANDAL?! TESTING?! ...there had BETTER be a hardsuit model called "Zenith". And you had better have a Belkan member named Hans Bosch! Maybe not Bosche, but you NEED the Zenith!
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2008-06-16, 11:24 | Link #1278 |
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Point to be made: we're mentally screening each other out, and so keep missing little details here and there, making communication almost pointless. I blame all the self-defence mechanisms acquired from battling trolls.
And it's taking 1 hr to load Kha's profile back online, so the link will come later...
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If the standard is SRW, mine is SRWA, Kha's is SRWOG, and Kerokanon is... uh... Kha, help?
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2008-06-16, 11:37 | Link #1280 |
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Kerokanon is SRW K.
Also, heads up people, especially Kagerou: I predict the emergence of a hawt white-haired test pilot chick. Comar's bringing FM4's Durandal to his Comarcanon. We'll see how it goes... Oh yeah, btw, there's a Front Mission 5 translation project ongoing. Interface is done, they're now working on story text and subtitles. http://frontmission.info/wiki/pmwiki.../ProjectStatus Ohya and if the hardsuits idea works out - though we need to see it in action, and comar needs to present it - I may in fact decided to bring in either Strike Wyverns or Barghest to his Comarcanon. We'll see. Olive branches are sprouting.
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