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***NightWish*** · 2008-05-27, 20:21

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Originally Posted by NoSanninWa

Beaten by NightWish, but I bet he didn't actually test it!

He didn't need to... he has spent too many hours looking at the forum's code, merging threads and verifying the results.

In other news: I have extended the tag query mechanism to allow multiple tags to be searched at once. See the FAQ for some basic examples. It is very new so consider it beta. If it breaks, just send me a PM or something.

NoSanninWa · 2008-05-27, 20:51

Thanks to NightWish we now have the ability to search for multiple tags, so I'd like to suggest that we retire the "romantic comedy" tag in favor of the two tags romance and comedy.

Shana · 2008-05-27, 21:41

Seems like I'm late to the party.

Well, I've been tagging some threads with tags that have recently been used. I hope everyone starts using the tag system without abussing of it, and this can get to be a better search system.

Also, I've been wondering, after the Tagging Time is done and majority of threads are tagged, I believe the Suggestions forum shouldn't be necessary. Just a thread with instructions for the Tags, and you can even get more results.

My two cents.

SeedFreedom · 2008-05-27, 23:16

i am noticing a lot of repeats within the tags. For example, this thread alone has tagging, tags, suggestions, suggestion forum. I think we should encourage people to take a look at what tags are already there before tagging, or if it is possible to merge tags together. Don't know if this would be too much for the mods plate though.

NeoSam · 2008-05-28, 01:53

Ooh forgot to ask... any in-appropriate tags should be reported in this thread? or PM the admins/mods about them?

NoSanninWa · 2008-05-28, 02:10

I'm not sure how we'll end up handling it, but I think that you should either use report post button (on some post in the thread) or else post it here.

The problem with PMing a mod is that the mod might disappear for a few hours. In that time another mod would have handled it if the problem was reported instead. The report post function is really, REALLY friendly for moderators to handle. It's like you put a problem into our communal inbox and the next mod to show up gets to see the list of all problems and take it out of the inbox or else add a comment to the report. (Or just leave it for the next mod to handle if it involves a show we aren't watching.) We like reports.

NeoSam · 2008-05-28, 02:22

I think I'll post about it here, since that gives any other user the opportunity to dis-agree (maybe he/she thinks that tag is appropriate for that thread).

Skyfall · 2008-05-28, 02:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shana

Also, I've been wondering, after te Tagging Time is done and majority of threads are tagged, I believe the Suggestions forum shouldn't be necessary. Just a thread with instructions for the Tags, and you can even get more results.

My two cents.

I don't believe that to be the case at all. For once, the suggestions forum allows for personal input. People like personal input from others. Secondly, most people truly don't seem very sure about what exactly they are looking for (Here is the list of what i have watched and liked, suggest something similar). It also allows one to ask for more specific plot details or unorthodox elements within a show that wouldn't be covered by general tags. So no, introducing the tag system (which is basically and advanced search system without the flexibility a human response can provide) would not render the Suggestions forum obsolete. The functions of the two are not as directly interchangeable as it might seem at first glance.

KholdStare · 2008-05-28, 03:02

Regarding tagging threads in the Suggestion Forum, I must say that it's quite redundant. What the use of tagging "mature" and "romance" in a thread that is entitled, "Looking for mature/romance anime"? However, I don't think it's any harm to use tags excessively if they're not stupid like "pwn" or "epic fail." Unless a tag is counter-productive in some way, then let people tag what they want.

And yeah, the Suggestions forum wouldn't be obsolete. Most of the threads I post there have specific requests, not just mere "Need yuri plz."

After all, I do support putting the Tags bar below the quick reply box.

KiNA · 2008-05-28, 03:21

Can anyone really enlighten me with the tagging in Nanoha image thread please >_< .. I mean "Translation please?" o_O .. It is really needed?

Also, I suggest removing the images tag on every image threads.. its redundant

NoSanninWa · 2008-05-28, 03:23

That's a pretty pointless tag indeed and I know who did it. I got rid of that stupidity. In future, when posting about stupid tags here, please link to thread. It is a big time saver.

And image tags belong on image threads. That way someone can search for the tag "images" and see all the image threads in one place. That's the whole point of tags.

KiNA · 2008-05-28, 03:37

In my defense.. all image threads have images already in its title, so its redundant (the way I see it)

And sorry for not linking the stupid tag thread >.< .. I'll keep that in mind.

serenade_beta · 2008-05-28, 03:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoSanninWa

That's a pretty pointless tag indeed and I know who did it. I got rid of that stupidity. In future, when posting about stupid tags here, please link to thread. It is a big time saver.

And image tags belong on image threads. That way someone can search for the tag "images" and see all the image threads in one place. That's the whole point of tags.

I believe "Enka" and "Kyouka-sama" are considered unneeded tags?
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=58275

NoSanninWa · 2008-05-28, 03:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

I believe "Enka" and "Kyouka-sama" are considered unneeded tags?
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=58275

Yeah. It's just dumb to tag by character names. Those are removed also now.

Daniel E. · 2008-05-28, 03:50

Have fun with this one......

http://forums.animesuki.com/tags.php?tag=crack

WanderingKnight · 2008-05-28, 03:52

Someone tagged the Kure-nai thread as "loli"... with all the misconceptions that word can bring up. It can make an already (unfairly) unpopular anime even less popular, and for the wrong reasons

Seriously, there needs to be some sort of moderation. We can't keep on doing this every single day.

NoSanninWa · 2008-05-28, 04:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by WanderingKnight

Seriously, there needs to be some sort of moderation. We can't keep on doing this every single day.

I think I'll do something about that tomorrow. 'Till then the disorder will be allowed to grow. We're still learning about the errors people make.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel E.

Have fun with this one......

http://forums.animesuki.com/tags.php?tag=crack

Yeah, that thread has crack, khrack, shiny crack, corruption and blooming insanity. It's more like editorial comments than search tags.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WanderingKnight

Someone tagged the Kure-nai thread as "loli"... with all the misconceptions that word can bring up. It can make an already (unfairly) unpopular anime even less popular, and for the wrong reasons

It might be misleading, but I don't think it is actually wrong.

Slice of Life · 2008-05-28, 04:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by WanderingKnight

Someone tagged the Kure-nai thread as "loli"... with all the misconceptions that word can bring up.

I was lectured in the Zettai Karen Children thread the other day that the word "loli" is just a synonym to "young female anime character" having no sexual connotations whatsoever. So no misconceptions could possibly be brought up.

Actually, I agree with you, WanderingKnight but I predict an uphill battle.

NoSanninWa · 2008-05-28, 04:32

Of course loli has sexual connotations and anyone who says otherwise is either foolish or messing with you.

And yes, both ZKC and Kurenai have sexual overtones involving young girls although the sexuality of children is not the focus of either show. Anyway, this thread is not a good place for a discussion of that sort.

cyth · 2008-05-28, 05:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoSanninWa

And yes, both ZKC and Kurenai have sexual overtones involving young girls although the sexuality of children is not the focus of either show. Anyway, this thread is not a good place for a discussion of that sort.

Then don't make one-sided statements then call it quits. ZKC has completely desexualized the three main characters. Loli is an affectionate English term for young girls, it may or may not have sexual connotations, much like is the case with moe. ~_~

2008-05-27, 20:51	Link #82
NoSanninWa Weapon of Mass Discussion Fansubber Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New York, USA	Thanks to NightWish we now have the ability to search for multiple tags, so I'd like to suggest that we retire the "romantic comedy" tag in favor of the two tags romance and comedy. __________________ There's not that fine a line between willing suspension of disbelief and something just being stupid.

2008-05-27, 21:41	Link #83
Shana Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006	Seems like I'm late to the party. Well, I've been tagging some threads with tags that have recently been used. I hope everyone starts using the tag system without abussing of it, and this can get to be a better search system. Also, I've been wondering, after the Tagging Time is done and majority of threads are tagged, I believe the Suggestions forum shouldn't be necessary. Just a thread with instructions for the Tags, and you can even get more results. My two cents. __________________

2008-05-28, 01:53	Link #85
NeoSam Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 43	Ooh forgot to ask... any in-appropriate tags should be reported in this thread? or PM the admins/mods about them? __________________

2008-05-28, 02:10	Link #86
NoSanninWa Weapon of Mass Discussion Fansubber Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New York, USA	I'm not sure how we'll end up handling it, but I think that you should either use report post button (on some post in the thread) or else post it here. The problem with PMing a mod is that the mod might disappear for a few hours. In that time another mod would have handled it if the problem was reported instead. The report post function is really, REALLY friendly for moderators to handle. It's like you put a problem into our communal inbox and the next mod to show up gets to see the list of all problems and take it out of the inbox or else add a comment to the report. (Or just leave it for the next mod to handle if it involves a show we aren't watching.) We like reports. __________________ There's not that fine a line between willing suspension of disbelief and something just being stupid.

2008-05-28, 02:22	Link #87
NeoSam Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 43	I think I'll post about it here, since that gives any other user the opportunity to dis-agree (maybe he/she thinks that tag is appropriate for that thread). __________________

2008-05-27, 23:16	Link #84
SeedFreedom Hina is my goddess Graphic Designer Join Date: Dec 2005	i am noticing a lot of repeats within the tags. For example, this thread alone has tagging, tags, suggestions, suggestion forum. I think we should encourage people to take a look at what tags are already there before tagging, or if it is possible to merge tags together. Don't know if this would be too much for the mods plate though.

2008-05-28, 03:02	Link #89
KholdStare ISML Technical Staff Graphic Designer Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 35	Regarding tagging threads in the Suggestion Forum, I must say that it's quite redundant. What the use of tagging "mature" and "romance" in a thread that is entitled, "Looking for mature/romance anime"? However, I don't think it's any harm to use tags excessively if they're not stupid like "pwn" or "epic fail." Unless a tag is counter-productive in some way, then let people tag what they want. And yeah, the Suggestions forum wouldn't be obsolete. Most of the threads I post there have specific requests, not just mere "Need yuri plz." After all, I do support putting the Tags bar below the quick reply box. __________________ Kholdy's MAL, ISML Chat, Saimoe Blog, Saimoe Wiki

2008-05-28, 03:23	Link #91
NoSanninWa Weapon of Mass Discussion Fansubber Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New York, USA	That's a pretty pointless tag indeed and I know who did it. I got rid of that stupidity. In future, when posting about stupid tags here, please link to thread. It is a big time saver. And image tags belong on image threads. That way someone can search for the tag "images" and see all the image threads in one place. That's the whole point of tags. __________________ There's not that fine a line between willing suspension of disbelief and something just being stupid.

2008-05-28, 03:50	Link #95
Daniel E. AniMexican! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Monterrey N.L. Mexico	Have fun with this one...... http://forums.animesuki.com/tags.php?tag=crack __________________

2008-05-28, 03:52	Link #96
WanderingKnight Gregory House IT Support Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Age: 35	Someone tagged the Kure-nai thread as "loli"... with all the misconceptions that word can bring up. It can make an already (unfairly) unpopular anime even less popular, and for the wrong reasons Seriously, there needs to be some sort of moderation. We can't keep on doing this every single day. __________________ Place them in a box until a quieter time \| Lights down, you up and die.

2008-05-28, 04:32	Link #99
NoSanninWa Weapon of Mass Discussion Fansubber Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New York, USA	Of course loli has sexual connotations and anyone who says otherwise is either foolish or messing with you. And yes, both ZKC and Kurenai have sexual overtones involving young girls although the sexuality of children is not the focus of either show. Anyway, this thread is not a good place for a discussion of that sort. __________________ There's not that fine a line between willing suspension of disbelief and something just being stupid.