Macross Frontier 2nd Movie: Sayonara no Tsubasa

[Yot-chan]

Originally Posted by magnuskn

Hm. Interesting. Seems the first movie didn't set the world on fire even in Japan.

Well, the first movie had a pretty limited release as well. What I heard from some Tokyo-based Macross fans is that the staff was working on the first movie almost up to the release date, so making a large number of prints of the film in just a few days was impossible. I have no way of verifying that it's true, however.

But IF it's true, and since Kawamori was (as of this last weekend) still working on the second film, with the release date less than three weeks away, I think the second film may be having a similar limited release.

Of course, DVD sales is where the real money is...

[KiNA]

No no no no .. The real money comes from the triangular resolution

[Tak]

Originally Posted by KiNA

No no no no .. The real money comes from the triangular resolution

I wonder if the 2nd movie would include elements from Episode 22: Northern Cross, since I consider that one to be the most emotional and hearbreaking episodes in Frontier.

- Tak

[magnuskn]

Originally Posted by Tak

I wonder if the 2nd movie would include elements from Episode 22: Northern Cross, since I consider that one to be the most emotional and hearbreaking episodes in Frontier.

- Tak

Probably with Ranka taking the role of Sheryl. <runs>

[Tak]

Originally Posted by magnuskn

Probably with Ranka taking the role of Sheryl. <runs>

Oh, you did not just go there...

- Tak

[magnuskn]

Originally Posted by Tak

Oh, you did not just go there...

- Tak

Hey, even I can engage in a short moment of pessimistic "Wah, Kawamori loves Ranka more than Sheryl, OMGwearesoscrewed!".

I'll be back to my usual optimism in a second.

[Father Hentai]

Alto should consider to peer with both. Sounds rude and nasty, but he isn't gettin' any younger and if both get along with the constellation... why not?

[Darthtabby]

Originally Posted by Yot-chan

Well, the first movie had a pretty limited release as well. What I heard from some Tokyo-based Macross fans is that the staff was working on the first movie almost up to the release date, so making a large number of prints of the film in just a few days was impossible. I have no way of verifying that it's true, however.

But IF it's true, and since Kawamori was (as of this last weekend) still working on the second film, with the release date less than three weeks away, I think the second film may be having a similar limited release.

Of course, DVD sales is where the real money is...

My understanding is that animated movies rarely get a very wide theatrical release in Japan anyway. So yes, DVD and Bluray sales are probably a more appropriate gauge of success.

According to a gaming related article, the Hybrid Pack (Blu Ray movie plus that "Trial Frontier" game) sold close to 153,000 copies in its first week. I'm not really familiar with the Japanese movie/game market, but that sounds like a pretty decent figure.

[magnuskn]

Originally Posted by Darthtabby

My understanding is that animated movies rarely get a very wide theatrical release in Japan anyway. So yes, DVD and Bluray sales are probably a more appropriate gauge of success.

According to a gaming related article, the Hybrid Pack (Blu Ray movie plus that "Trial Frontier" game) sold close to 153,000 copies in its first week. I'm not really familiar with the Japanese movie/game market, but that sounds like a pretty decent figure.

Hm. Apparently the anime industry is a bit more niché in Japan than I had previously thought. ^^

[Tak]

Originally Posted by magnuskn

Hm. Apparently the anime industry is a bit more niché in Japan than I had previously thought. ^^

Mostly when it comes to movies, unless its Miyazaki's works, then thats a whole different story.

People are more used to long-running episodes of anime than movies, the former being vastly more popular with the general audience, never mind that most movies are not original production, but recaps of their televised counterparts.

- Tak

[moncikoma]

Originally Posted by Isegrim

There will also be less cinemas showing the movie on the release date. Most of them in Kanto, but only five in Kansai (two in Osaka, one in Ibaraki, one in Kyoto and one in Kobe).

I wonder, do hollywood movies play alongside with many anime movies
On the same building?

if anime and public movies is being seperated individualy according to otaku theater, and public theater...

Then 5 theater in kansai is quite a lot...

[Isegrim]

Originally Posted by moncikoma

if anime and public movies is being seperated individualy according to otaku theater, and public theater...

Then 5 theater in kansai is quite a lot...

There are no seperate cinemas for animated movies. The first movie had a revenue of 650 million yen. For comparison, a few other movies (taken from wikipedia.jp):
- Haruhi: 800 million yen
- Gundam 00: 870 million yen
- NGE 1.0: 2 billion yen
- NGE 2.0: 4 billion yen
- Karigurashi no Arrietty: 9.25 billion (!) yen

The MF movies are being distributed by Clockworks, which is a smaller company and also distributed the Haruhi movie and Rebuild of Evangelion. The largest distributor/producing company in Japan is by far Toho (had a share of almost 2/3 of the overall cinema revenue in 2010).

[darkplataform]

[Tak]

Oh geez... where is the tissue...

- Tak

[pinoy78]

Please tell me that poster is going to be for sale in the near future.

[darkplataform]

NTのCVコメント
アフレコを終えた感想
ラストの展開については家に帰ってもまだその余韻を反映していましたね。
「悲しい」とか「よかった」とかじゃなくてどこか客観的に三人の人生を見届けた思いがありまし た。
作品のテーマを一言で
「生きる」

三角関係については
「完結編ですから、何かに決着がつくということです。ただし、決着にとらわれず、その過程を楽しんでほしい ですね」

シェリルと関係あるか微妙だけど
「完結編を見る前に予習するならTVシリーズよりも前編とマクロスゼロですね。実はマクロスゼロとの関係が すごく深いんですよ」
「宇宙では、何が起こるかわかりませんからね。エンドロールの最後の瞬間まで、気を抜かずに旅を続けてくだ さいね」


シェリルについては
「戦争と病気という二重の過酷な状況の中で、命をかけた歌が何であるのかを自問自答する…。
そこでアルトとランカと出会い、自分は一人じゃないって思えた。さらにその先の姿が描けたらいいなと思いま す」

全部河森ね

◯ージュのアルトの中の人のインタビューが意味深いです

（シェリルとランカ）かなり積極的になっている

シェリルのドラマがかなり多かった
どちらかというと（前編は）シェリルがメインの展開だったので
完結編は逆にランカ寄りになるのかと予想していたんですけど
シェリルのドラマがどんどん出てくるんです

シェリルはその生き様が、ランカは大きな物語を動かすのに重要な役割を果たしている

一応の決着はついたのかなと僕は解釈しました
監督にはなぜああいう決着にしたかはあえて聞かなかったんです

アルトはラストにとても穏やかなセリフをいう

テレビ後半とは別物、絶対楽しめる映画になっていると思います
以上、中の人のまとめ


錬金術については監督が
錬金術は『聖なる結婚』ともいわれ異質なものが融合して
新たな価値が生まれることを意味しています
見た目どおりの花嫁じゃなく『聖なる花嫁』を意識してほしい

それと最後まで書いてある台本はアルシェリランの中の人、三人にしか渡してないそうです
アルト視点でいえば『ふたりへの想い』を完結させたいところ
『想い』を完結と言っておかしければ、
ふたりに対する立ち位置における成長と言ったほうがいいかもしれません

おまけ眉毛
大事なことが書いてあったので


ブレラはかなり重要な役目
アルトとブレラの対立構造はしっかり描こうと思ってた

「歌は死なない。」は劇中のある人物のセリフからとっている
誰がどんな思いを込めて語るセリフなのか想像をめぐらせていただければ

ギラサマ祭りに参加していた皆の歓声は約束通りライブでの歓声やバジュラに襲われた悲鳴で使用

シェリルスパイ容疑の案で賛否両論のとき
説得材料はスパイ容疑があればシェリルはこの場所でライブが出来るよ

完結編のチラシにはシェリルが「死の予感」を感じているとある
「歌は死なない」はそこにかかってる

アルトが抱いてるウェディング女性はアフレコ現場で永遠の1７歳が
「これは私なのね」とおっしゃっていました（笑）

シェリルナースの新曲タイトルは「禁断のエリクシア」
錬金術をモチーフにしたミステリアスなライブシーン

恋愛はランカが積極的になってそれに引っ張られるように
シェリルも想いを前に出している
作り手から見ても恋愛はテンポアップしていて
アルトももう逃げられない演出になったんじゃないかな

予告の「何かを選ぶことは～」は完結編の冒頭で使われるモノローグ
シェリルとランカのモノローグもある
ラストシーンを迎えた三人の想いを語らせた
アフレコでも一番最初に録ってから最後にもう一度録り直しした

なんらかの形で△の決着を描くのでお楽しみに
テレビも含めて三年間も△でﾄﾞｷﾄﾞｷしてきたことってないよねと（笑）

[triangler_fans1]

The nurse's song of Sheryl: Kindan no erikushia/Elixir prohibited

[Tak]

So... the triangle according to the article, will be resolved in some way, shape and/or form.

Joy...

- Tak

[raile]

Originally Posted by Tak

So... the triangle according to the article, will be resolved in some way, shape and/or form.

Joy...

- Tak

I don't trust the sound of that actually.

[magnuskn]

Yeah, such is the price a writer pays for trolling his audience a few too many times... suddenly nobody trusts his words anymore, because him pulling a fast one on them has become the norm, not the event.