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Myssa Rei · 2012-06-30, 19:39

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Originally Posted by TheForsaken

5 minutes?
I think the enrage timer is after 3 minutes.

How can it be 3 minutes, when even on single player it takes me more than that time to whittle his health down past half, and he NEVER spammed meteors on me? Take note, I took him on after the patch that added the Timers. o_O

Archon_Wing · 2012-06-30, 19:45

Blizzard: Working as Intended. Go to the Auction House.

Or is it just as planned?

Flying Dagger · 2012-06-30, 20:07

I think Belial enrage is something designed against survival oriented characters (tanks).

Swap in some DPS gears and ditch shields if you are using any (if you have two good 1h or a good 2h).

Duo Maxwell · 2012-06-30, 23:15

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Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

How can it be 3 minutes, when even on single player it takes me more than that time to whittle his health down past half, and he NEVER spammed meteors on me? Take note, I took him on after the patch that added the Timers. o_O

Pretty sure it's 3 minutes, or to be precise, the 3rd time he's spamming those shits all over the place.
Well, to fight against him you don't need many defensive spells, so switch most of your spell into offensive that can increase your dmg, while keeping 1 or 2 survival spells for when you make a mistake and run into meteor. I killed him with 18k dps Barb, or 15k dps Wiz, so I don't think it's that bad.

Myssa Rei · 2012-06-30, 23:43

The point is I was in a party, not doing this solo, and I was the one on Resist duty for the session, which means that my skill setup was supportive instead of full offensive (I had the blind skill for example, which is useful for mobs but useless against Belial). And changing skills would kill the NV stacks we had, so we had to use the stuff we were using when we logged into the game with (we went through the Black Soulstone first).

aohige · 2012-07-01, 00:10

Belial enrage is 3 min.

He doesn't do continuous damage, and fatal ones are fatal regardless.
If you're a monk, just swap out to DPS gear. 2h or cheap 1hs off AH, and you can even drop some of the defensive skill sets (unless you're going for NV stacks).

I was lacking on DPS, so I swapped to 2h daibo with relatively high DPS and lots of LoH.
Swapped out my aura for the DPS one, and tossed out a skill in favor for Sweeping Wind.

Output damage nearly doubled, and was a cake from there.

In public though, you have to rely on everyone having hit the required DPS, making this fight one of the hardest public game fights out there.

Myssa Rei · 2012-07-01, 00:26

This wasn't a public party.

It was composed entirely of friends, and we were trying to get the barbarian to Act 3. I will admit though that one of our buddies' weapons were lacking (I did lend him my 800 DPS blue fist though), but even so it's kind of surprising how exponential the life leap became. It was like punching a freaking wall, which wasn't how my single-player experience with Belial went at all.

aohige · 2012-07-01, 00:28

Ahh, gotcha.

You have to pump out little short of 100k dps as a whole party, I believe.
I'm not too familiar with the HP increase on 4 player party, just assuming it's somewhere near +300% increase.

Marina2 · 2012-07-01, 01:38

I have been wondering this.

What is "Gold find" effect?

It increase the drop rate of gold or it increase the amount of gold dropped?

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2012-07-01, 01:42

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Originally Posted by Marina2

I have been wondering this.

What is "Gold find" effect?

It increase the drop rate of gold or it increase the amount of gold dropped?

It definitely increases the quantity. Because monsters drop gold REALLY often. Like, almost half the time. So there is no benefit in increasing drop rate. Further, I have +200% gold find, but I still regularly get monsters that drop no gold at all. What you will notice is the gold stacks get bigger.

Duo Maxwell · 2012-07-01, 02:35

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Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

The point is I was in a party, not doing this solo, and I was the one on Resist duty for the session, which means that my skill setup was supportive instead of full offensive (I had the blind skill for example, which is useful for mobs but useless against Belial). And changing skills would kill the NV stacks we had, so we had to use the stuff we were using when we logged into the game with (we went through the Black Soulstone first).

I've constantly been in party of 4, though. I believe one of the monk only use 2 damaging skills, with a mantra that gives evasion. Average dps of our party's member would be 20k, with the highest one is 50k, and the lowest one is a Barb with (lolz) 1k dps. He's only stacking armor and resist. The only thing he's good at is for constantly giving cc while tanking.
Beside, we'd rather lose NV stacks than keep on dying without progressing.

Act 3 on the other hand is just brutal.

Aesthetic Shampoo · 2012-07-01, 06:48

Could anyone help me get a price range for this? I'm hoping it'll go for more than the 1k i got from my legendary

Spoiler for Inna's splendor:

Flying Dagger · 2012-07-01, 10:03

20k DPS is rather low by today's standards for damaging classes given how cheap low end gear is - maybe that is why you are having enrage problems.

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Originally Posted by EssTEss

Could anyone help me get a price range for this? I'm hoping it'll go for more than the 1k i got from my legendary

Spoiler for Inna's splendor:

No resist = horrible.
Undercut the cheapest one on either RMAH or gAH

LoweGear · 2012-07-01, 13:21

So I've been thinking about what I'm lacking when it comes to Elites on Inferno, since even with just my Wizard's paltry 16k DPS, I don't have much trouble against your bog-standard mooks. So on a whim, I decided to include the one ability that'll give me the highest DPS for my Wizard ever: Archon.

I once gave up on Archon a quarter of the way through Hell Difficulty because it can't use any Diamond Skin, which I was spamming alot when it comes to surviving said difficulty. Engaged against Inferno Elites, and coupled with Prismatic Armor though.... I was like "WOW, I didn't think they'd go down that fast!"

Though against an Elite with Plagued + Desecrator + Mortar though, it did take a couple of tries before I could kill it

I still need to save up money for a 1k+ damage socketed weapon though...

Demi. · 2012-07-01, 14:39

I sold that sword I linked to above for 30mil (25 after Blizz took their cut) ... And for the first time since playing this game, I feel like I can purchase most things I've always wanted but couldn't afford.

http://www.imagebam.com/image/165da8199581845

Skane · 2012-07-01, 17:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demi.

I sold that sword I linked to above for 30mil (25 after Blizz took their cut) ... And for the first time since playing this game, I feel like I can purchase most things I've always wanted but couldn't afford.

http://www.imagebam.com/image/165da8199581845

Gratz.

10char.

Archon_Wing · 2012-07-01, 17:55

I find that enrage timers are more endemic in multiplayer since everyone is at a different level of gear and the massive health means that if anyone isn't putting out the required dps, it gets pretty retarded.

Holy Knight · 2012-07-01, 23:06

Enrage timers in general is a stupid mechanic, especially in a game like this.

Wigwams · 2012-07-02, 05:16

just tried wicked wind + critical mass. its OP.

Eisdrache · 2012-07-02, 05:19

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Originally Posted by Archon_Wing

I find that enrage timers are more endemic in multiplayer since everyone is at a different level of gear and the massive health means that if anyone isn't putting out the required dps, it gets pretty retarded.

The solution is to get lvl60 with good gear.

2012-06-30, 23:43	Link #3025
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	The point is I was in a party, not doing this solo, and I was the one on Resist duty for the session, which means that my skill setup was supportive instead of full offensive (I had the blind skill for example, which is useful for mobs but useless against Belial). And changing skills would kill the NV stacks we had, so we had to use the stuff we were using when we logged into the game with (we went through the Black Soulstone first). __________________

2012-07-01, 00:10	Link #3026
aohige ( ಠ_ಠ) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere, between the sacred silence and sleep	Belial enrage is 3 min. He doesn't do continuous damage, and fatal ones are fatal regardless. If you're a monk, just swap out to DPS gear. 2h or cheap 1hs off AH, and you can even drop some of the defensive skill sets (unless you're going for NV stacks). I was lacking on DPS, so I swapped to 2h daibo with relatively high DPS and lots of LoH. Swapped out my aura for the DPS one, and tossed out a skill in favor for Sweeping Wind. Output damage nearly doubled, and was a cake from there. In public though, you have to rely on everyone having hit the required DPS, making this fight one of the hardest public game fights out there. __________________

2012-07-01, 00:26	Link #3027
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	This wasn't a public party. It was composed entirely of friends, and we were trying to get the barbarian to Act 3. I will admit though that one of our buddies' weapons were lacking (I did lend him my 800 DPS blue fist though), but even so it's kind of surprising how exponential the life leap became. It was like punching a freaking wall, which wasn't how my single-player experience with Belial went at all. __________________

2012-07-01, 00:28	Link #3028
aohige ( ಠ_ಠ) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere, between the sacred silence and sleep	Ahh, gotcha. You have to pump out little short of 100k dps as a whole party, I believe. I'm not too familiar with the HP increase on 4 player party, just assuming it's somewhere near +300% increase. __________________

2012-07-01, 01:38	Link #3029
Marina2 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006	I have been wondering this. What is "Gold find" effect? It increase the drop rate of gold or it increase the amount of gold dropped? __________________

2012-06-30, 20:07	Link #3023
Flying Dagger 大巧不工 Join Date: Dec 2003	I think Belial enrage is something designed against survival oriented characters (tanks). Swap in some DPS gears and ditch shields if you are using any (if you have two good 1h or a good 2h).

2012-07-01, 06:48	Link #3032
Aesthetic Shampoo Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Age: 30	Could anyone help me get a price range for this? I'm hoping it'll go for more than the 1k i got from my legendary Spoiler for Inna's splendor:

2012-07-01, 13:21	Link #3034
LoweGear Secret Society BLANKET Graphic Designer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 3 times the passion of normal flamenco	So I've been thinking about what I'm lacking when it comes to Elites on Inferno, since even with just my Wizard's paltry 16k DPS, I don't have much trouble against your bog-standard mooks. So on a whim, I decided to include the one ability that'll give me the highest DPS for my Wizard ever: Archon. I once gave up on Archon a quarter of the way through Hell Difficulty because it can't use any Diamond Skin, which I was spamming alot when it comes to surviving said difficulty. Engaged against Inferno Elites, and coupled with Prismatic Armor though.... I was like "WOW, I didn't think they'd go down that fast!" Though against an Elite with Plagued + Desecrator + Mortar though, it did take a couple of tries before I could kill it I still need to save up money for a 1k+ damage socketed weapon though... __________________ Against all the evil that hell can conjure, all wickedness that mankind can produce... We will send unto them, only you.

2012-07-01, 14:39	Link #3035
Demi. Ass connoisseur Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Florida Age: 37	I sold that sword I linked to above for 30mil (25 after Blizz took their cut) ... And for the first time since playing this game, I feel like I can purchase most things I've always wanted but couldn't afford. http://www.imagebam.com/image/165da8199581845 __________________

2012-07-01, 23:06	Link #3038
Holy Knight Time Bomb Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 40	Enrage timers in general is a stupid mechanic, especially in a game like this.

2012-07-02, 05:16	Link #3039
Wigwams Senior Member Join Date: May 2010	just tried wicked wind + critical mass. its OP. __________________ World No. 1