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Old 2017-07-15, 17:57   Link #1
Eisdrache
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Villain and aware of it

I'm looking for an antagonist who is fully aware that what he or she is doing is evil but doesn't care about it. None of this pretending to be bad but actually be hidden good guy nonsense. The villain has a have a clear goal and does whatever he needs to do to get it. He doesn't have to win but he should have a well defined character. They don't bother to explain it to the hero, if he doesn't understand it then so be it. He doesn't have time to waste explaining. If the hero asks just how the antagonist can do all these things then he just replies with 'stop me or shut up'.

Bonus points if the story is told from the PoV of the bad guy.
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Old 2017-07-15, 20:08   Link #2
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We don't yet know how things will turn out, but Charioce in Shingeki no Bahamut Genesis: Virgin Soul seems like a good fit.
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Old 2017-07-16, 09:12   Link #3
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Kind of hard to say; to an extent this depends on how strict you are on the person being aware of the fact that they're the bad guy. I mean, in the strictest sense, it's practically impossible to do bad and know it. Making the choice to do it directly implies that either you deem there to be a reason that in your moral code trumps the "evil" aspects of the act or you excuse yourself with some claim that it's "unavoidable" and you "had no choice", either way making your action either "good" or at least inevitable and therefore neutral.

That said, here are a few that I feel come close since they know that they won't be "understood", they know that they're hurting people and causing all sorts of disaster, and they're still completely unrepentant in their actions.

First is Assassination Classroom, but there's a bit of a spoiler here...
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Next, there's Boku Dake ga Inai Machi, AKA Erased. The guy killed three children in the hero's hometown, and probably many more in other places, set other people up to take the fall, and killed the hero's mother to keep her quiet when she wised up to him.

The Nanoha series villains have at least one like this. The first is broken by her path and is willing to do anything and hurt/kill anyone to regain what she lost, and she continuously uses her daughter Fate to make this happen, then beats her enough that I imagine even the really sick S&M fans start to cringe. In the third season, Strikers, the villain is basically something like an inventor of military superweapons who's big on demonstrating what his weapons can do, and how easily they can be used to attack anyplace without warning. He literally thinks about nothing but his research, making weapons and selling them.

Gonna Be the Twintails is a fair example. The villains are going from world to world stripping the inhabitants of their... fetishes? It doesn't sound bad, but they literally steal the people's ability to feel any love or passion for things, leaving the place very dull indeed. They particularly fit because they generally have the passions and fetishes they feed upon, so they're taking something they love and destroying everyone's ability to share that love; they on occasion bemoan how tragic it is but conclude with "oh well, it's what we do".

Also, while I haven't watched it myself, I'm pretty sure the antagonist from Monster would fit your bill quite well. From the things I've heard he's practically meant to be the Antichrist, or at least something very close to that level of absolute, unrelenting, unashamed and unrepentant evil.

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Old 2017-07-16, 10:51   Link #4
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Junko from Danganronpa comes to mind.
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Old 2017-07-16, 12:25   Link #5
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First is Assassination Classroom, but there's a bit of a spoiler here...
Spoiler:
That's the masked guy right? I can't remember his name but I read the whole manga so it's not that high of a priority for me.

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Next, there's Boku Dake ga Inai Machi, AKA Erased. The guy killed three children in the hero's hometown, and probably many more in other places, set other people up to take the fall, and killed the hero's mother to keep her quiet when she wised up to him.
I should really watch this.

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The Nanoha series villains have at least one like this. The first is broken by her path and is willing to do anything and hurt/kill anyone to regain what she lost, and she continuously uses her daughter Fate to make this happen, then beats her enough that I imagine even the really sick S&M fans start to cringe. In the third season, Strikers, the villain is basically something like an inventor of military superweapons who's big on demonstrating what his weapons can do, and how easily they can be used to attack anyplace without warning. He literally thinks about nothing but his research, making weapons and selling them.
Precia never left that much of an impression on me. Jail Spaghetti was more a comedy villain in my eyes though. To be fair it didn't help that the show itself wasn't exactly the greatest either.

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Gonna Be the Twintails is a fair example. The villains are going from world to world stripping the inhabitants of their... fetishes? It doesn't sound bad, but they literally steal the people's ability to feel any love or passion for things, leaving the place very dull indeed. They particularly fit because they generally have the passions and fetishes they feed upon, so they're taking something they love and destroying everyone's ability to share that love; they on occasion bemoan how tragic it is but conclude with "oh well, it's what we do".
Oretwin is the only show I ever rated and I gave it 10/10. Twintails is the best fetish after all.

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Also, while I haven't watched it myself, I'm pretty sure the antagonist from Monster would fit your bill quite well. From the things I've heard he's practically meant to be the Antichrist, or at least something very close to that level of absolute, unrelenting, unashamed and unrepentant evil.
Monster has been on my list forever but 70+ episodes ;a; I'll watch it one day I promise.

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Junko from Danganronpa comes to mind.
Have heard a lot of good things about this show but never came around to actually watch it. Once I find some time I'll get to it.
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