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It was sad seeing them loosing(well it's better so for later revenge so i'm cool with it....). Anyway hope this anime won't turn into romance. The guy who after Koume can be understandable (still, Koume.... just reject him...), but the other guy who after Akiko should be kicked in the ass for his thoughtless attitude
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2009-07-19, 08:46 | Link #104 |
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I'm glad they didn't dumb it down and had them lose badly the first time, after all they just started. I'm also glad they didn't portray the boys as monstrous a-holes either, just simply oblivious to their actions and how they were actually being condescending.
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2009-07-19, 10:59 | Link #105 |
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Just saw episode 3.
Honestly, the men's team weren't exactly being condescending or mean spirited; it's more like they're starting to show how men in Japan began changing in those times as they start treating women nicely and dumbing down their play to somehow match theirs to the point of being... well somewhat condescending, but they weren't intending to be condescending. They were merely acting out how men of that age with a mix of Asian and European influences would act. It didn't last long anyway as they ended up crushing them 11-0. You first have the tension between the men's team embracing Westernism to the women struggling to to become Westernized themselves. Remember that most Eastern cultures of the time were very patriarchal, so it comes off that the men tend to have more freedom to embrace new ideas while the women are usually kept in the old world views. In contrast to this was Akiko's fiancee who's actions scream old school patriarchy that reflects both Oriental and Western attitudes, while Akiko is gladly accepting change. The man should take the lead while the women stay in the kitchen etc. He doesn't understand Akiko's desire to play baseball, and this is where their conflict begins: Akiko is coming out a more progressive woman of that age while he sticks to his old world views. Behind the baseball is a deep rooted struggle for change and acceptance from a woman's POV trying to succeed an a Western male dominated sport. It's not all cute girls doing cute things, it's all rooted in the fast changing pace of the times. Baseball is just one of the ways for them to struggle through a Japan entering the wolrd at the turn of the 20th century. You have to admit though, that guy's old school (and I really mean old school, like in my Grandfather's days ) proposal to Koume was hilarious overuse of cliche.
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2009-07-19, 11:29 | Link #107 |
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It's actually for the reasons we both stated that this series got bumped up from my "To Watch" list to my "Why I even bother to do anything on weekends" list beside Aoi Hana, Umineko and Spice and Wolf.
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2009-07-19, 21:59 | Link #108 |
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"Are you crying? ARE YOU CRYING? There's no crying! THERE'S NO CRYING IN BASEBALL"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DNBBrkIPN8
Okay, finally got that one out of the way for myself. Episode 3: Shit gets real. Girls got game, but they need more hustle. I kind of underestimated this series. Sure, it's cute, but from what was posted numerous times by a number of posters is it provides an insight to the cultural shift at the time. Spoiler:
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2009-07-20, 00:09 | Link #109 | |
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Given that the girls have had only a week or two to practise and that most of them had never so much as watched an actual baseball game, it was inevitable that they would get creamed. Still, it's nice of Taishou Yakyuu Musume to play fair and show just how lopsided the game was. In particular, Akiko will have to get a lot better if they are to avoid getting blown out.
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As for the latter, I really appreciate the way the gags work in this show. A lot of the comedy is visceral and physical - this style translates very well across cultures, and it's readily accessible. I find this to be a refreshing departure from the more in-joke based comedy that seems to form the bulk of comedy anime. Other amusing bits of interest:
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2009-07-20, 02:07 | Link #110 | |
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Tama-chan's reaction was the best when Tomoe was pitching. |
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2009-07-20, 03:15 | Link #111 | |
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As for the two guys, it's obvious they're designed for us to hate them, but I like how they're not just pure jerks. Rather, like you said, they're just so trapped in their old-fashioned mindset that they can't even see what they're doing wrong. One is stuck thinking "women should be in the kitchen blah blah etc." and the other thinks he can just waltz in and sweep Koume off her feet. They actually seem like nice guys otherwise. It fits the probable themes of the show, and they might be being set up for redemption later on, who knows. (This doesn't mean I didn't have on multiple occasions a strong urge to punch Akiko's fiance. I feel for her, having to marry someone like that.) I expect something will happen in the future with Koume's father. He's pretty traditionalist and doesn't seem like he would approve of her playing baseball. If someone were to dump on him the knowledge that that's what she's doing so early in the morning and afterschool, and word also got to him about some guy stalking her, who knows what would happen. He might go ballistic. He's already getting suspicious... |
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2009-07-20, 06:58 | Link #112 | |
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There are so many scenes i like in Ep 3: the bucket screen, the practices, Tomoe's pinching....etc...... I really loves this anime now ^^
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I don't know but i hate to see guys in this anime. One of the reason is because all of the girls alone are so cute, especially their interaction. Another is because all guys are opponents so my brain immediately switch hostile toward them (except Koume's father). Thirdly is because unlike modern days, traditional culture often force girls to have early arranged marriage... It's heart-breaking thinking Koume or Akiko will have marriage with sub-characters on screen =( PS: @ fict_ticious : nice boat.... plane.... signature ^^
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2009-07-20, 16:21 | Link #115 |
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episode 3:
- what're you going to do with the handkerchief... ecchi. :P found the episode to be surprisingly funny. loving all the girls so far and the humor is such a delightful little thing that makes you laugh when you less expect it. Koume is my favorite character; her little musical number still remains vivid in my mind and her strange antics has done more than enough to make me very fond of her. wonder what direction this show is going to take, though I'm not losing my hope yet. :P (oh geez, I want to see another musical number, hopefully with the whole cast) |
2009-07-20, 17:22 | Link #116 |
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so far the real surprise hit of the season and also possibly my fav of the year.
just such a delight to watch, it all comes together very well unlike some of the bigger animes. loved Tomoe's pitching
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2009-07-20, 22:18 | Link #117 | |
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Hopefully more of them will get the spotlight and leave a bigger impression on me.
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Wouldn't have been called Softball yet. I kinda like where they are going with the baseball angle, anyways. I hope we get a training camp ep - they can consolidate the obligatory sleepover/vacation/beach/etc. events. |
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2009-07-21, 07:58 | Link #119 |
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I wonder if during that time period schools hired western teachers to indicate how progressive they were.
It would also be interesting if sometime during the series mention was made of the Philadelphia Bobbies, a women's professional baseball team, who came to Japan in 1925 to play male teams |
2009-07-21, 16:30 | Link #120 | |
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Yea...it could be said that Tama is a rare breed back in those days XD As for your males comment...whilst I don't "hate" seeing them, it definitely does not feel "right" to see them here and especially since it is a "female centred" series. But it doesn't seem like the guys are made to stand out anyway looking at their plain and forgettable facial features. Even if there are guys, they all look the same and are all background material
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