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Angelic Cross · 2010-07-23, 01:37

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Originally Posted by Excorsism

Oh, I would keel over if they remake Ogre Battle 64 too.

Personally, what I'd really like to see a remake and western release of is Ogre Battle: Prince of Zenobia (that'd be the Wonderswan Color one), though a new one would be more preferrable.

Actually, the entire Ogre series, remade and on a single disc, would be the only thing that would equal a new entry in the series for me.

FRS · 2010-07-23, 03:02

it's a great news, another good Tactical RPG to pick up on the PSP for me.

Sister Princess · 2010-08-02, 17:04

(Should have talked earlier but whatever)

While it's very nice to reconsider the existence of Tactic Ogre, I always wonder how frequent and important DLC these days are. Especially Bandai/Namco may consider DLC a mandatory exercise to finish a game.

I just hope there is no DLC in this game, there is no need to.

MushroomSamba · 2010-08-02, 17:24

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Originally Posted by Sister Princess

(Should have talked earlier but whatever)

While it's very nice to reconsider the existence of Tactic Ogre, I always wonder how frequent and important DLC these days are. Especially Bandai/Namco may consider DLC a mandatory exercise to finish a game.

I just hope there is no DLC in this game, there is no need to.

Do handhelds usually get DLC add-ons? I was under the assumption that it's more of a console thing.

Sister Princess · 2010-08-02, 17:33

I know Prinny 1 and MGS Peace Walker has DLC in it. But these ones are minor except for perfectionist.

Iron Maw · 2010-08-05, 00:44

Terrible quality scans here(Copy and paste):

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And if you can read Japanese, here's the blog that summarizes the new features covered by Famitsu:
http://so94atg8.blogspot.com/2010/08...-psp_9861.html

I can roughly translate some points:
* Release date remains TBA
* New class Rogue can steal item from foe and locate the trap
* Lot of class-specific techniques can be learned. Most techniques consume the T-point (as shown in the unit's stat alongside HP and MP) in order to perform.
* Success rate of "Steal" (100 TP) depends on the skill "rank".
* Warrior's technique menu is shown including "Cherry Rondo" (help msg: single-hand sword art, 200 TP, cut, ice-elemental, close-quarter), "Rending Gale" (from Vagrant Story), "Ba-i-ru-wa-u-n-do"
* A female Warrior is shown chanting a magic spell: "one who bears the sin shall be ready for punishment! Retribution!"
* You need the item "XX(class) Certificate" to change the class. These certificates sold for 1k Goth (WxF!?)
* The victory screen shows how much "Skill Point" you gain from the battle. Possibly spent on learning new technique.
* Archer is shown chanting before using their bow tecnique too: "Strip off the freedom from my enemy... strike with lightning! Empyreal Shot!"

All from GameFAQs.

Iron Maw · 2010-08-25, 14:37

New direct feed screens showing off some of the classes and art:

http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs...13_386779.html

MushroomSamba · 2010-08-25, 22:29

Any news on the release date yet? I doubt it'd happen, but I'm hoping for stateside release in time for the holidays.

Kaioshin Sama · 2011-10-08, 05:12

I've just started playing this and already it's probably my favorite Square Enix game since the last time a game was done in the Matsuno style. Great characters, very interesting scenario the way I like it with lots of politics and shades of gray and a good challenging game. I'd almost say Square Enix needs Matsuno back at this point, not so much from a standpoint of making sure their product will seel, but from a pure quality of storytelling and game play standpoint. I see little way they manage another game of this caliber without that person.

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2011-10-08, 07:02

I hope they remember to keep Deneb.

Mahou · 2011-10-08, 07:13

Deneb is the game + recruitable as an optional character in the last chapter (chapter 4), but from what I've read the effort to recruit her is quite annoying.

I'm nearly finished with my first playthrough and am just trying to get better skills and equiment as the last boss wiped the floor with my team the last two times D:. The level system has its ups and downs. Pro: Every unit gets exp. regardless if they perform an action or not, the more units of the same class the better exp for them.
Negative: Levels are bound the the class and not to the character. It can be *very* unappealing to level from 1 to the current level of the remaining team.

DragoonKain3 · 2011-10-08, 09:24

Just sad to the nerfs. Princess isn't the most powerful class in the game anymore, Wicce is merely a warlock with 1 more movement, and necromancy isn't a good enough magic class to justify using a Lich. Draconic magic being nerfed bad since it doesn't globally hit enemy anymore makes me sad as well, since with their reagent cost they're generally worse than forbidden spells.

Oh well, at least Shamans kick ass now. <3 Olivya/Sherri combo.

Shadow5YA · 2011-10-09, 19:41

Is there any way Denam can use Double Attack without being a Ninja or a Lord?

creb · 2011-10-09, 23:54

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Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

Is there any way Denam can use Double Attack without being a Ninja or a Lord?

No. Classes mean something in this game, unlike FFT.

Shadow5YA · 2011-10-10, 05:07

So in order to get the Lord, I have to say goodbye to the Princess? ;_;

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2011-10-10, 05:43

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Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

So in order to get the Lord, I have to say goodbye to the Princess? ;_;

Worse. You have to deliberately kill a character.

When I replayed the original Tactics Ogre with the intent of getting the Lord in the new playthrough, I found out that I couldn't do it when the time came; I just can't justify to myself that having a Lord in the game is worth me deliberately killing someone in cold blood as it were.

I pressed the button, watched her kill herself, then promptly pressed "Reset" and unmade the decision.

I have never followed the Lord storyline to this day. Can't do it.

Shadow5YA · 2011-10-10, 07:18

I know what happens. "Goodbye to the Princess" was a euphemism.

I was hoping I could alleviate the issue with The World tarot, but I guess not.

Mahou · 2011-10-10, 08:56

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Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

I know what happens. "Goodbye to the Princess" was a euphemism.

I was hoping I could alleviate the issue with The World tarot, but I guess not.

Hm? With the World tarot you can redo that part while keeping the Lord class mark, but it's only available after you finished the game once. I chose Law route first in order to get the characters, so that I can use them on another path. Ozma is beastly in battle.
Besides that, despite having Lord marks I cannot be bothered to change class and doing all the leveling again, so I let Denam happily remain as a Ninja which are absurdly strong as well.

Shadow5YA · 2011-10-10, 11:34

My only problem with Ninja is being restricted to 1H Katanas and Daggers.

DragoonKain3 · 2011-10-10, 11:53

You make it sound like that's a bad thing, considering that 1h Katanas and Daggers are by far and away, the best melee weapon classes in the game due to high DEX scaling (it's easier to get DEX than STR on top of that) and more importantly, noticeably lower RT. Ninjas can't equip higher level daggers, but 1h katanas are only slightly more inferior and still a very good weapon class.

And IMO, Ninja > Lord, because after a certain point it isn't so much about dealing damage as it is getting in range of the enemy. As such, I value the Ninja's +1move/+1jump over the Lord's spell diversity. And really, after a certain point, Ninjutsu is as good as the majority of attack spells, and it doesn't cost you anything.

2010-08-25, 14:37	Link #27
Iron Maw Banned Join Date: Feb 2006	New direct feed screens showing off some of the classes and art: http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs...13_386779.html Last edited by Iron Maw; 2010-08-25 at 14:57.

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MushroomSamba Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Jersey Age: 39	Any news on the release date yet? I doubt it'd happen, but I'm hoping for stateside release in time for the holidays. __________________

2011-10-08, 07:02	Link #30
Vallen Chaos Valiant Logician and Romantic Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Within my mind Age: 43	I hope they remember to keep Deneb. __________________

2011-10-08, 09:24	Link #32
DragoonKain3 Osana-Najimi Shipper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mt. Ordeals	Just sad to the nerfs. Princess isn't the most powerful class in the game anymore, Wicce is merely a warlock with 1 more movement, and necromancy isn't a good enough magic class to justify using a Lich. Draconic magic being nerfed bad since it doesn't globally hit enemy anymore makes me sad as well, since with their reagent cost they're generally worse than forbidden spells. Oh well, at least Shamans kick ass now. <3 Olivya/Sherri combo. __________________ Yes its YOU childhood friend - source of BERZERKER RAGE since forever Childhood Friend couple STATISTICS(spoilers abound though)

2011-10-10, 11:53	Link #40
DragoonKain3 Osana-Najimi Shipper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mt. Ordeals	You make it sound like that's a bad thing, considering that 1h Katanas and Daggers are by far and away, the best melee weapon classes in the game due to high DEX scaling (it's easier to get DEX than STR on top of that) and more importantly, noticeably lower RT. Ninjas can't equip higher level daggers, but 1h katanas are only slightly more inferior and still a very good weapon class. And IMO, Ninja > Lord, because after a certain point it isn't so much about dealing damage as it is getting in range of the enemy. As such, I value the Ninja's +1move/+1jump over the Lord's spell diversity. And really, after a certain point, Ninjutsu is as good as the majority of attack spells, and it doesn't cost you anything. __________________ Yes its YOU childhood friend - source of BERZERKER RAGE since forever Childhood Friend couple STATISTICS(spoilers abound though)

2010-07-23, 03:02	Link #22
FRS Lurker on the threshold Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: France Age: 46	it's a great news, another good Tactical RPG to pick up on the PSP for me.

2010-08-02, 17:04	Link #23
Sister Princess Easy Operation Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Age: 40	(Should have talked earlier but whatever) While it's very nice to reconsider the existence of Tactic Ogre, I always wonder how frequent and important DLC these days are. Especially Bandai/Namco may consider DLC a mandatory exercise to finish a game. I just hope there is no DLC in this game, there is no need to.

2010-08-02, 17:33	Link #25
Sister Princess Easy Operation Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Age: 40	I know Prinny 1 and MGS Peace Walker has DLC in it. But these ones are minor except for perfectionist.

2011-10-08, 05:12	Link #29
Kaioshin Sama Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Neither Here nor There Age: 39	I've just started playing this and already it's probably my favorite Square Enix game since the last time a game was done in the Matsuno style. Great characters, very interesting scenario the way I like it with lots of politics and shades of gray and a good challenging game. I'd almost say Square Enix needs Matsuno back at this point, not so much from a standpoint of making sure their product will seel, but from a pure quality of storytelling and game play standpoint. I see little way they manage another game of this caliber without that person.

2011-10-08, 07:13	Link #31
Mahou ダメ人 - 人間失格 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Germany Age: 37	Deneb is the game + recruitable as an optional character in the last chapter (chapter 4), but from what I've read the effort to recruit her is quite annoying. I'm nearly finished with my first playthrough and am just trying to get better skills and equiment as the last boss wiped the floor with my team the last two times D:. The level system has its ups and downs. Pro: Every unit gets exp. regardless if they perform an action or not, the more units of the same class the better exp for them. Negative: Levels are bound the the class and not to the character. It can be very unappealing to level from 1 to the current level of the remaining team.

2011-10-09, 19:41	Link #33
Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	Is there any way Denam can use Double Attack without being a Ninja or a Lord?

2011-10-10, 05:07	Link #35
Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	So in order to get the Lord, I have to say goodbye to the Princess? ;_;

2011-10-10, 07:18	Link #37
Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	I know what happens. "Goodbye to the Princess" was a euphemism. I was hoping I could alleviate the issue with The World tarot, but I guess not.

2011-10-10, 11:34	Link #39
Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	My only problem with Ninja is being restricted to 1H Katanas and Daggers.