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Tak · 2007-06-03, 19:50

I am not talking about the audience those shows are aiming towards, I am talking about the creators behind those shows. A lot of them are well into their 30s, others in their 40s.

Look at Miyazaki, he creates anime a broad audience can enjoy, but the man is old, old...

- Tak

Deacon Blues · 2007-06-03, 20:09

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Originally Posted by Tak

I am not talking about the audience those shows are aiming towards, I am talking about the creators behind those shows. A lot of them are well into their 30s, others in their 40s.

Look at Miyazaki, he creates anime a broad audience can enjoy, but the man is old, old...

- Tak

I was referring to the fact that there are very few viewers of that age. I.e. Westerners.

Nightengale · 2007-06-04, 01:27

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Originally Posted by Tak

I am not talking about the audience those shows are aiming towards, I am talking about the creators behind those shows. A lot of them are well into their 30s, others in their 40s.

Look at Miyazaki, he creates anime a broad audience can enjoy, but the man is old, old...

There are always minorities for everything, and Miyazaki is the minority of minorities.

But prime-time Gundam have always been targeted to majorities, and clearly...the otakus are one of them, but they're not enough to constitute as a full-formed majority.

On the other side of discussions, just because the targer audience of 00 is not adults doesn't mean jack. SEED wasn't adult-targeted to begin with, and it had its share of fans, lots of em' just as there are bashers of SEED before it even aired...like right now with 00. Likewise for every other show.

D-KLAC · 2007-06-04, 02:01

but can it match the level of gs & uc?

besides that it take place 300 years from now & like will it be a success or a flop?

& besides gs series has dominated the 00s years & that gundam 00 is no match against gs.

Eidolon Sniper · 2007-06-04, 03:39

^^^ We can never really be certain of that fact until G 00 has aired and starts having avatar requests/debates/flame wars/etc....

We still only know so little about this anime, so it's unfair to make sweeping statements like how bad it would get, or how evil it is compared to GS and Destiny...

I'm pretty sure that both UC and SEED did wonders into introducing a whole new genre to several otaku/mech fans who wanted something new and original, and that they would be expected to stand the test of time...Amuro and Char is still as popular as ever, and that's something, considering the Gundam franchise is old, and the CE is relatively young as of yet. We would only see in a few years more if Kira and Lacus would still remain as popular as they are now...and have they withstood the test of time, maybe, say 20 years from now on too...

Anyway, I like the new series, from the screenshots I've seen. For some strange reason, the artwork reminds me strongly of a Wing + CLAMP hybrid...O.o;;

D-KLAC · 2007-06-04, 03:56

well look uc is 28yrs while gs is gonna be 5yrs on oct 5 & this new one going to be born in 07.

but seeing those first 2 gundam it remind of gs.

unless this is a prequal time era of gs?!

Eidolon Sniper · 2007-06-04, 04:13

Um actually, SEED was a reworked version of MSG...unless you mean some other thing... .___.

srb · 2007-06-04, 05:04

I actually have no idea what D-KLAC means...

Noppapana · 2007-06-04, 06:01

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Originally Posted by D-KLAC

well look uc is 28yrs while gs is gonna be 5yrs on oct 5 & this new one going to be born in 07.

but seeing those first 2 gundam it remind of gs.

unless this is a prequal time era of gs?!

you cant predict the storyline based on the looks of the MSs
IMO the new MS doesnt look like any of GS/D

ShinGundam · 2007-06-04, 07:47

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you cant predict the storyline based on the looks of the MSs
IMO the new MS doesnt look like any of GS/D

I think new Gundams has some details from latest GSD 1/100
and that make them bet CEissh to me

but that isn’t important to me
especialy (( No Okowara Or Turn A MSs))

Blaat · 2007-06-04, 10:05

I'm extremely late with this but:

- I like the mecha design
- I think the character design is okay.
- I was right about the name pronunciation

tetsuo69 · 2007-06-04, 12:24

ewww , dont like how the new characters look -_-""
the Gundams Are kool but they look to much like GS Gundams

Code Geass is gonna own this new Gundam series -_-""

kaito-kid · 2007-06-04, 13:57

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Originally Posted by tetsuo69

ewww , dont like how the new characters look -_-""
the Gundams Are kool but they look to much like GS Gundams

Code Geass is gonna own this new Gundam series -_-""

Probably...
But the seed movie is gonna own them both for sure.

Deacon Blues · 2007-06-04, 15:02

*rolls eyes*

Grow up, children. Code Geass cannot compete with Gundam on any scale whatsoever. Gundam has been around for nearly thirty years and has established a powerful fanbase that runs circles around Geass fifty times over. The end result will lie in the ratings and the DVD sales. Nothing can prove whether or not the SEED movie will pwn the new series or vice versa. Let's stop the narking and talk about this when you can... ya know, back that up with facts and figures. =)

Shiroth · 2007-06-04, 15:38

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Originally Posted by Deacon Blues

Grow up, children. Code Geass cannot compete with Gundam on any scale whatsoever. Gundam has been around for nearly thirty years and has established a powerful fanbase that runs circles around Geass fifty times over.

I'm not taking any sides at all (mainly because its childish) but it doesn't really matter which one has been around the longest. The fanbase behind Code Geass is running strong, and it'll be even stronger once the last two episodes & the second season starts --- it also has one of the best storyline's i've seen, together with the amount of drama & action surrounding it.

This is a new Gundam series, i'm loving the look of it, though that can't be said for a lot of people. All i can say is that it'll be interesting --- but there's no point taking sides.

Crusader · 2007-06-04, 16:29

why is code Geass even brought into this specific discussion.

wingdarkness · 2007-06-04, 16:43

^Because Code Geass is a ratings and critically acclaimed success and it's a mecha show produced by Bandai...If they can infuse some of that success into a new Gundam series that wouldn't hurt at all...

Deacon Blues · 2007-06-04, 17:17

Um... their past Gundam series have been successful, so there is no need to change anything. =)

duckroll · 2007-06-04, 17:53

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Originally Posted by wingdarkness

^Because Code Geass is a ratings and critically acclaimed success and it's a mecha show produced by Bandai...If they can infuse some of that success into a new Gundam series that wouldn't hurt at all...

Geass has horrible ratings. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. It's the DVD sales that are high, the TV ratings are pretty damn low, which is expected for it's timeslot.

wingdarkness · 2007-06-04, 18:21

from wiki: Since its premiere, Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion has collected numerous awards and accolades. At the sixth annual Tokyo Anime Awards held at the 2007 Tokyo International Anime Fair, Code Geass won the best TV anime series award.[11] On noted Japanese anime magazine Animage's 29th Annual Anime Grand Prix, Code Geass won the most popular series award, with Lelouch Lamperouge also being chosen as the most popular male character and "Colors" being chosen as the most popular song.

@duckroll - I've seen no proof of horrible ratings (provide them)...and what the heck has Gundam won recently other than fan-based character polls? Not for show content (Like Geass)...I'm content with the overall praise of Geass and my own opinions on the show to understand that a new Gundam show with any influences from it wouldn't be something I'm against...In any event Bandai has a winner with it and from what I've read it's more than the superficial reasonings of what character is more l33t (It's praise acutally comes from themes and story)...If that timeslot does suck as you say then you'd have to judge CG's ratings relative to the shows that appeared before it...

2007-06-03, 19:50	Link #201
Tak Catholic = Cat addiction? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: MURICA!!	I am not talking about the audience those shows are aiming towards, I am talking about the creators behind those shows. A lot of them are well into their 30s, others in their 40s. Look at Miyazaki, he creates anime a broad audience can enjoy, but the man is old, old... - Tak __________________ BLESSED IS OUR GOD, THE LORD OF MIRACLES, FOR HE HAS SUPPLIED AN ENTIRE BATTALION WITH JUST FIVE ROUNDS OF AMMO AND TWO GRENADES!! Remember, the toes you step on today may be connected to the @ss you have to kiss tomorrow.

2007-06-04, 02:01	Link #204
D-KLAC KLAC OF THE ANIME WORLD Join Date: May 2007 Location: gs series Age: 34	but can it match the level of gs & uc? besides that it take place 300 years from now & like will it be a success or a flop? & besides gs series has dominated the 00s years & that gundam 00 is no match against gs. __________________ ONCE A GS ALWAYS A GS A KLAC IS JUST TOO COMMIT, HONOR, LOYALTY, PRIDE, ETC TO WORLD OF ANIME WALKING THE PATH OF KLAC ON THE JOURNEY THORUGH THE KLAC-ERA YOU EITHER ANIME NEXUS http://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=24159 OR AGAINST THE ANIME http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6WFM...eature=related KLAC OF PERSONALITY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqyG8w0iMPw

2007-06-04, 03:39	Link #205
Eidolon Sniper Tsubasa No Kami Artist Join Date: May 2004 Location: Returning to my Place as the QUEEN...XD	^^^ We can never really be certain of that fact until G 00 has aired and starts having avatar requests/debates/flame wars/etc.... We still only know so little about this anime, so it's unfair to make sweeping statements like how bad it would get, or how evil it is compared to GS and Destiny... I'm pretty sure that both UC and SEED did wonders into introducing a whole new genre to several otaku/mech fans who wanted something new and original, and that they would be expected to stand the test of time...Amuro and Char is still as popular as ever, and that's something, considering the Gundam franchise is old, and the CE is relatively young as of yet. We would only see in a few years more if Kira and Lacus would still remain as popular as they are now...and have they withstood the test of time, maybe, say 20 years from now on too... Anyway, I like the new series, from the screenshots I've seen. For some strange reason, the artwork reminds me strongly of a Wing + CLAMP hybrid...O.o;; __________________ Ethereal Exiled Queen. NATCH~~~!!!

2007-06-04, 03:56	Link #206
D-KLAC KLAC OF THE ANIME WORLD Join Date: May 2007 Location: gs series Age: 34	well look uc is 28yrs while gs is gonna be 5yrs on oct 5 & this new one going to be born in 07. but seeing those first 2 gundam it remind of gs. unless this is a prequal time era of gs?! __________________ ONCE A GS ALWAYS A GS A KLAC IS JUST TOO COMMIT, HONOR, LOYALTY, PRIDE, ETC TO WORLD OF ANIME WALKING THE PATH OF KLAC ON THE JOURNEY THORUGH THE KLAC-ERA YOU EITHER ANIME NEXUS http://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=24159 OR AGAINST THE ANIME http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6WFM...eature=related KLAC OF PERSONALITY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqyG8w0iMPw

2007-06-04, 04:13	Link #207
Eidolon Sniper Tsubasa No Kami Artist Join Date: May 2004 Location: Returning to my Place as the QUEEN...XD	Um actually, SEED was a reworked version of MSG...unless you mean some other thing... .___. __________________ Ethereal Exiled Queen. NATCH~~~!!!

2007-06-04, 05:04	Link #208
srb I can see time itself! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Kingdom of Sweden Age: 37	I actually have no idea what D-KLAC means...

2007-06-04, 10:05	Link #211
Blaat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004	I'm extremely late with this but: - I like the mecha design - I think the character design is okay. - I was right about the name pronunciation

2007-06-04, 12:24	Link #212
tetsuo69 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: nyc	ewww , dont like how the new characters look -_-"" the Gundams Are kool but they look to much like GS Gundams Code Geass is gonna own this new Gundam series -_-"" __________________

2007-06-04, 15:02	Link #214
Deacon Blues Supreme Grocer Scanlator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico	rolls eyes Grow up, children. Code Geass cannot compete with Gundam on any scale whatsoever. Gundam has been around for nearly thirty years and has established a powerful fanbase that runs circles around Geass fifty times over. The end result will lie in the ratings and the DVD sales. Nothing can prove whether or not the SEED movie will pwn the new series or vice versa. Let's stop the narking and talk about this when you can... ya know, back that up with facts and figures. =) __________________ 「では、人間は、何故、戦うのか？戦うことに存在意義があるのかもしれない。戦っている人間には充実感がある。そして、戦っている人間が汚れて見えないのも事実だ」 So why do people fight, anyway? Perhaps the meaning of existence lies within their will to fight. People feel a sense of accomplishment through battle. And it’s also a fact that the ones actually fighting are never perceived as being tainted.

2007-06-04, 16:29	Link #216
Crusader Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: North Texas	why is code Geass even brought into this specific discussion. __________________ The times may change, but human nature never will.

2007-06-04, 16:43	Link #217
wingdarkness Retweet Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ニュー・オーリンズ、LA	^Because Code Geass is a ratings and critically acclaimed success and it's a mecha show produced by Bandai...If they can infuse some of that success into a new Gundam series that wouldn't hurt at all... __________________ Fly since ↔...

2007-06-04, 17:17	Link #218
Deacon Blues Supreme Grocer Scanlator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico	Um... their past Gundam series have been successful, so there is no need to change anything. =) __________________ 「では、人間は、何故、戦うのか？戦うことに存在意義があるのかもしれない。戦っている人間には充実感がある。そして、戦っている人間が汚れて見えないのも事実だ」 So why do people fight, anyway? Perhaps the meaning of existence lies within their will to fight. People feel a sense of accomplishment through battle. And it’s also a fact that the ones actually fighting are never perceived as being tainted.

2007-06-04, 18:21	Link #220
wingdarkness Retweet Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ニュー・オーリンズ、LA	from wiki: Since its premiere, Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion has collected numerous awards and accolades. At the sixth annual Tokyo Anime Awards held at the 2007 Tokyo International Anime Fair, Code Geass won the best TV anime series award.[11] On noted Japanese anime magazine Animage's 29th Annual Anime Grand Prix, Code Geass won the most popular series award, with Lelouch Lamperouge also being chosen as the most popular male character and "Colors" being chosen as the most popular song. @duckroll - I've seen no proof of horrible ratings (provide them)...and what the heck has Gundam won recently other than fan-based character polls? Not for show content (Like Geass)...I'm content with the overall praise of Geass and my own opinions on the show to understand that a new Gundam show with any influences from it wouldn't be something I'm against...In any event Bandai has a winner with it and from what I've read it's more than the superficial reasonings of what character is more l33t (It's praise acutally comes from themes and story)...If that timeslot does suck as you say then you'd have to judge CG's ratings relative to the shows that appeared before it... __________________ Fly since ↔...