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Also Saya and Ai are both youmu. What's so unthinkable about youmus being chummy with a dangerous youmu? And that's what they all say when the big reveal with the insider happens at the end. "We didn't know he was faking it!" Quote:
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Considering Mirai's situation, what Akihito did was just regenerating. She never witnessed Youmu Akihito in action, that's the problem. Quote:
It also is asinine to think there is a false friendship at work considering the circumstances: why would Izumi leave Mirai in the dark if Hiromi and Mitsuki are feigning friendship? Why wouldn't they plan things with Mirai who was dispatched by Izumi then? Frankly, the whole deal with "fake friendship" etc doesn't make any sense in the given context. If Izumi's plot did involve her siblings, then considering her logic, she would have made several plans involving the -four- of them. Yet, Mirai only interacted with Izumi when it comes to killing Akihito. Of course, as the audience we know it isn't the case anyway. That being said, in a narrative perspective, it is very unlikely to keep people in the dark despite they are on the same mission. So no, that doesn't hold the water at all. By default, what she witnessed with Hiromi and Mitsuki's behaviour is de facto genuine looking to her (which is why she thought he had a happy life regardless of his youmu lineage). The likes that actually confirm Mirai's inability to identity Akihito as "that dangerous half youmu". Quote:
Sure she saw Hiromi's injuries... and? She didn't know how strong Hiromi was at that time, nor how he was overpowered. In fact, she lacks so many crucial information that the -extent- of danger is not tangible. I'm not even sure if Mirai knows how strong Izumi is. She knows the Naze family name, but that's far as it goes. The fun fact is that Izumi told her that Hiromi got almost killed when Youmu Akihito counterattacked. However, in the present time, Akihito didn't. And suffice to say, this episode also showed how relentless Mirai was after him, however goofy it was. So really, regardless how "badass" Youmu Akihito is, Mirai had no reason to expect an absolute monster when you had -Human Akihito- acting this way thus far, and despite his life was endangered several times because of her. I woudn't disagree if Mirai actually saw Youmu Akihito's powers to a certain extent prior the events of ep4, but as far as it goes, she only saw a pale skinned humanoid youmu with black eyes, and Hiromi's wounds on his back. That's everything I had to say about that, past this point, it is indeed just cycling.
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2013-12-04, 19:13 | Link #1303 |
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Well, to be honest for me this week's ep felt more like a needless mess than anything else, but to be fair I dislike the use of "alternate realities" and such, so maybe no surprise.
I will prolly watch it through to the end but I seriously doubt at this point whether I will be archiving the series. A pity as it had potential, but then again different folks have different tastes.
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2013-12-04, 20:48 | Link #1310 |
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A great episode like this really just reinforces my belief that the series is suffering in the same way Angel Beats did. That is to say, if they got like 20ish episodes to really flesh things out the series could have been simply amazing.
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2013-12-05, 00:23 | Link #1312 |
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Y'know, certain segments of this episode weren't actually bad. I kid you not though, the moment Akihito made the obligatory glasses joke, the episode started to drift back into its regular nothingness.
Still, those moments of relative interest at the beginning made it much better than most of the other episodes.
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2013-12-05, 03:01 | Link #1313 |
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Episode 10 reminded me a bit of Madoka's episode 10. Except the revelations aren't really that interesting or even that surprising. I mean, we all kind of saw the whole Mirai/Izumi thing coming in the last couple of episodes. It doesn't really make us see Mirai in a new light either, since her personality and motivations were pretty much laid out before hand. Episode 10 just filled in the few blanks that were missing but the overall picture was pretty apparent already. I also don't particularly like how she just randomly gains a new ability when the plot needed it.
The direction and mood was pretty nice. I kind of wish this was the direction the anime took from the start. A sort of melancholic tone where the humor didn't stray too far from the core aesthetic. I feel like KyoAn should have just a tone and stuck with it, instead of shifting back and forth. It'd have made a much stronger, more cohesive narrative. After everything is revealed in episode 10 it's pretty apparent to me that Mirai's trauma when trying to kill Youma was a completely unnecessary addition to the story. It didn't flow well at the beginning, and now that we have her complete story revealed it sticks out like a sore thumb. At best, you can do some mental gymnastics and fit it in, but I think the show would have been much better received if they didn't add this part in. Sakura is also a really useless addition to the cast. She just feels completely shoehorned in. It seems her only real use is to push Akihito and Mirai together, and there are much better ways to do that then add a character like her. She's basically the director's prop when he needs Mirai to do something that's too embarrassing for Mirai to admit. As for the next 2 episodes, I'm guessing both the Society and Izumi's goal is to take the KnK stone for themselves. I bet if left alone the KnK really doesn't pose any threat to humanity at all, but of course it'd be a powerful weapon if utilized. Akihito's mom will probably show up in the last episode to put people in their place. Last edited by RobotCat; 2013-12-05 at 03:54. |
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I'll just say this... why is there a need for us to look at things from another angle when it's pretty straightforward? It doesn't even really matter if Mirai doesn't know the full extent of Akihito's power. The fact is she knows he is dangerous which brings the whole "Do I look like normal" drama pointless. Oh and on another topic... I also find it lulzy how Izumi told Mirai some BS about absorbing KnK using her blood and ended up being true! Seriously Mirai's blood is like magic! Sometimes it kills/corrodes everything! Sometimes it returns an enraged Akihito back to normal without killing him! Sometimes it allows Mirai to speak with Akihito with 1 drop of blood! Sometimes it allows her to absorb Knk onto herself without killing Akihito! Next time it will clean the dishes!!!
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2013-12-05, 07:56 | Link #1316 | ||
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Also that line wasn't Aki's original line. Aki feeling a little down at the end, threw the line back to Mirai. Quote:
That aside, my take on this is that it was done in the same manner as ep 4. She flushed out the Youmu inside Aki. Being completely Youmu on the outside now she managed to flush it out doing less damage to Aki. Though like how the Hollow Shadow reacted when it was driven out, it sought a new host. It took Mirai and vanished. Regarding Aki's dream, while mirai's blood having an effect in Aki's dream felt out of the blue. It was kinda foreshadowed. Though a dream is a dream. To me it was just a representation of Aki gradually regaining his senses. Now I'm not particularly familiar with the weather and season in Japan. I had to look up the seasons and weather patterns in Japan since I was kinda confused of the timeline. At first I was confused when Dream Mitsuki says Aki died seemingly died 2 weeks ago and that when he woke up, it was depicted as fall. Then I realized time was going so fast in his dream. It went from summer to fall(Late June/Mid July to Mid September/Early October). Assuming that he did die 2 weeks ago as Dream Mitsuki said(and it was still summer), I take it he died around Late June to Mid July. Judging by how the episode was depicted with a gray sky, I take it that rainy seasons were taking place. It would kinda make sense that he'd still feel the summer heat subconsciously, if he'd regain some of his senses around early August. Now I'm not particular in seeing how Sunflowers react to Autumn season but seeing how it's withered I just assumed that it's a representation that Aki was about to wake up sometime in Mid September to Early October. That said being the slowpoke I am Spoiler:
Now I'm hoping for something ballsy but this is wishful thinking. Spoiler for wishful thinking and speculation:
Ah whatever. This show has gone to places I didn't expect. Mirai disappearing was certainly a curve ball.
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Mirai's trauma makes no sense and was completely needless since it had pretty much no influence on the plot. She was ok with killing a human looking youmu (which should have reminded her of Yui a lot) and yet she had trouble killing a tiny monster like youmu. I don't think that's how it works. They should have left this element out.
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2013-12-06, 02:57 | Link #1319 |
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I think that episode 10 was nothing short of brilliant and it did a lot to redeem the whole show in my eyes.
Many plot holes were finally closed, particularly regarding why Mirai immediately attacked Akihito despite her initial reluctance to kill youmu. It also explained why she distanced herself from him during the Hollow Shadow incident. The show is far from perfect (for instance, I still think that Sakura’s character is shallow) but at least the main story makes a lot of sense now.
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2013-12-06, 07:19 | Link #1320 |
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From Ishidate's interview in one of the monthly magazines:
At the beginning, it was my intention to make Izumi into the final boss, but I felt that was lacking in excitement as a story, so I sought out Hanada-sensei's opinion. He commented, "Why don't we make it so that it was her plan to get Mirai to come to town to kill Akihito from the start? So we quickly changed the scripts to suit that storyline. We endevored to revise the scenarios to put this foreshadowing into the final version and maintain consistency with what had already been written. Edit: No need to bump for staff announcement. Episode 11: Black World Script: Jukki Hanada Storyboards/Direction: Ichirou Miyoshi (Yoshiji Kigami) Animation Director: Nao Naitou Episode 12: Grey World Script: Jukki Hanada Storyboards: Taiichi Ishidate Direction: Taiichi Ogawa Animation Direction: Miku Kadowaki
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