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Old 2009-12-02, 11:36   Link #3341
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Not really a question but I didn't find another place to post random posts:




I don't understand the "selling" part.

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To help us all save face I pretend you did ask a question, and the answer is: Yes, this dilemma has been talked about in more detail.
(Warn you, there is 2d pornography in that vid.) I watched the vid and disagreed. I think our response to greater choices depends only on our personalities. If I had 1 million choices of videogames.( which i think i do ) I'd filter it to my favorite genre then I'd start playing immediately. Satisfaction comes after I've practiced these choices and if I'm not satisfied I replace it or get another game.

my question: how much do tv channel spaces(?)...or networks(?) cost?

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Old 2009-12-02, 13:49   Link #3342
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my question: how much do tv channel spaces(?)...or networks(?) cost?
I guess you're asking how much advertising time costs? For US television these days it runs about $20-25 per thousand viewers reached. (Whether they're actually watching these ads is a whole other story, of course.) At that rate, a 30-second spot ad in prime time costs somewhat over $100,000. A Google search for "television cpm" should be helpful.

From 1965-1975 or so, the figure was about $2.

If you're asking how much it would cost to buy a television network, we're talking billions of dollars for any major network. Estimates of the value of NBC/Universal, which Comcast has indicated an interest in buying, run about $35 billion, but that includes the value of Universal's enormous library of television programs and films.

It's generally not possible to buy an individual network. Most of them are elements in portfolios owned by entities like Viacom, Disney, and Time Warner.
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Old 2009-12-02, 13:59   Link #3343
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If you're asking how much it would cost to buy a television network, we're talking billions of dollars for any major network. Estimates of the value of NBC/Universal, which Comcast has indicated an interest in buying, run about $35 billion, but that includes the value of Universal's enormous library of television programs and films.

It's generally not possible to buy an individual network. Most of them are elements in portfolios owned by entities like Viacom, Disney, and Time Warner.
What about an *cough* empty one?

Its not possible to buy a network? so who purchased them when cable was invented? from whom?
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Old 2009-12-02, 15:07   Link #3344
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They were created from scratch in the mid-1970's after the launch of HBO by what was then Time, Inc.. HBO created a new source of programming for cable operators which stimulated them to purchase satellite receivers. Other companies, and a few entrepreneurs like Ted Turner, saw an opportunity, leased satellite transponders like HBO had done (at first on the same satellite), and began delivering programming to cable operators.

There are no "empty" networks especially these days. It's an expensive proposition to obtain programming, lease transponders, and market the service to cable operators. We're talking about investing millions of dollars before seeing a dime in revenue. Outside of large media conglomerates, there are few individuals who can command the resources to launch a network. Mark Cuban took the plunge with his HDNet services a few years' ago, but he's a billionaire.

Terrestrial broadcasting networks have an entirely different history that dates back to the introduction of television in the late 1940's. Individual entrepreneurs obtained broadcast licenses for the initial 3-4 VHF channels allocated to their markets, then worked with the existing radio networks (NBC, CBS) to develop programming. The existence of radio networks, and their established relationships with advertisers, made this feasible.

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Old 2009-12-03, 01:42   Link #3345
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They were created from scratch in the mid-1970's after the launch of HBO by what was then Time, Inc.. HBO created a new source of programming for cable operators which stimulated them to purchase satellite receivers. Other companies, and a few entrepreneurs like Ted Turner, saw an opportunity, leased satellite transponders like HBO had done (at first on the same satellite), and began delivering programming to cable operators.

There are no "empty" networks especially these days. It's an expensive proposition to obtain programming, lease transponders, and market the service to cable operators. We're talking about investing millions of dollars before seeing a dime in revenue. Outside of large media conglomerates, there are few individuals who can command the resources to launch a network. Mark Cuban took the plunge with his HDNet services a few years' ago, but he's a billionaire.

Terrestrial broadcasting networks have an entirely different history that dates back to the introduction of television in the late 1940's. Individual entrepreneurs obtained broadcast licenses for the initial 3-4 VHF channels allocated to their markets, then worked with the existing radio networks (NBC, CBS) to develop programming. The existence of radio networks, and their established relationships with advertisers, made this feasible.
I...see. so much for my scheme of controlling media..
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Old 2009-12-03, 13:30   Link #3346
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Comcast and GE announced they would form a subsidiary (with Comcast owning 51%) that will jointly own NBC/Universal. The deal valued NBCU at $30 billion. Comcast's rather tiny current portfolio of cable networks (Golf Channel, Versus, E!) were alone valued at over $7 billion.

Maybe you can become friends with Mark Cuban.
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Old 2009-12-03, 17:03   Link #3347
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In other words, effectively Comcast owns NBC/Universal (majority of the shares). Also, not a bad way to get some customers that want to watch NBC/Universal besides the basic channel. Comcast can now exclude Verzion from distributing NBC/Universal. FiOS was epically thrashing the Comcast TV.
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Old 2009-12-03, 19:31   Link #3348
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how do you post a thread on this site im new on this website
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Old 2009-12-03, 21:32   Link #3349
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In other words, effectively Comcast owns NBC/Universal (majority of the shares). Also, not a bad way to get some customers that want to watch NBC/Universal besides the basic channel. Comcast can now exclude Verzion from distributing NBC/Universal. FiOS was epically thrashing the Comcast TV.
Well, not entirely. NBC's network programming is carried by local affiliate broadcast stations that must be carried by all cable systems in their local markets. So I wouldn't expect to see Jay Leno disappear from FiOS systems any time soon. A more complicated issue concerns services like MSNBC or UniversalHD which aren't governed by the "must-carry" rules. Still we FiOS subscribers do get current Comcast networks like The Golf Channel, so it's not entirely clear how things will pan out. Not offering your services to an operator that reaches millions of homes means less advertising revenue for the channel operator, not to mention those monthly per-subscriber fees for carriage. (Popular networks like ESPN command per-subscriber fees of $3-4/month regardless of who actually watches their channels.)

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how do you post a thread on this site im new on this website
Are you asking about how to open a thread within a forum? Go to the top of the forum and click the "New Thread" button. For instance, if you wanted to open a thread in this forum, General Chat, you'd click the button at the top of this page.
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Old 2009-12-03, 23:44   Link #3350
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I suppose... But most of NBC's networks are liable to disappear from FiOS. Or Verizon might have to raise the price for FiOS to buy/renew/[insert better verb here] the license to NBC's networks assuming Verizon still will want that market.

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Old 2009-12-04, 20:34   Link #3351
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Are you asking about how to open a thread within a forum? Go to the top of the forum and click the "New Thread" button. For instance, if you wanted to open a thread in this forum, General Chat, you'd click the button at the top of this page.
Also worth mentioning is the fact that many sub-forums are closed for thread creation by members and only the staff (per request) can start one in said places.
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Old 2009-12-08, 04:01   Link #3352
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The hidden costs of identity theft

After reading the article can anyone clarify me how can ppl after getting the info can themselves get credit cards? Are the bank providing credit cards just issue them as long as the info is valid without check if info refers to the person asking them?
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Old 2009-12-08, 21:10   Link #3353
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silly q here lol

i remember animesuki kept a list of animes' TOTAL # OF EPISODE ,wheres that topic located at? and what do i type in "search" function to search fot that topic?

EDIT: nvm found it but it wasnt updated?
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Old 2009-12-08, 21:27   Link #3354
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silly q here lol

i remember animesuki kept a list of animes' TOTAL # OF EPISODE ,wheres that topic located at? and what do i type in "search" function to search fot that topic?

EDIT: nvm found it but it wasnt updated?
I don't think it's been updated since some time last year. Try ANN or AniDB for episode counts for shows.
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Old 2009-12-13, 09:50   Link #3355
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Silly q about English language
I thought tart was like a word also used in a sense like this:
Roads you dare not tart
Of is it something else, I think it is but what D: not cross.. another word
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Old 2009-12-13, 12:30   Link #3356
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Silly q about English language
I thought tart was like a word also used in a sense like this:
Roads you dare not tart
Of is it something else, I think it is but what D: not cross.. another word
Trot is all I can think of.
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Old 2009-12-13, 14:17   Link #3357
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Silly q about English language
I thought tart was like a word also used in a sense like this:
Roads you dare not tart
Of is it something else, I think it is but what D: not cross.. another word
'Tis a word so quaint that thou darest not thread?
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Old 2009-12-13, 14:36   Link #3358
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'Tis a word so quaint that thou darest not thread?
aye, thank you so much dear sir
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Old 2009-12-14, 07:29   Link #3359
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I have a quick silly question:

Was trying to download a video file, but accidentally clicked "open" instead. But since even when it "open", it still need to be downloaded into my computer first. So i tracked down that file and got it...

The only problem is: when i cut and paste, it mentioned about how this is the "read only" file only. Does it matter in this case (a video file) ? The size seems to be about right.
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Old 2009-12-14, 11:15   Link #3360
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Silly Question from me...

Recently i just read a manga called Yandere Kanojo...
http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=41619
Apparently this title has two version...
One is Gangan Online's version (currently scanlated until ch 3)
One is Gangan Joker's version (currently scanlated until ch 2)


My question is which one is ongoing one?

Thanks in advance...
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