GATE - Light Novel Discussion

[Tri-ring]

Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

The new series of novels have been confirmed, and Itami isn't the protagonist though he still exists in the world somewhere. It is now officially about a submarine and naval adventures of the JMSDF.

Interesting that the author admits that this is outside his comfort zone, as he had no experience as a sailor. So he worked extra hare at it and hope it would be good enough.

http://www.gate2-alphapolis.com/

Saw the site and read the introduction.
My question is how in the hell were they able to fit through an Oyashio type sub through the gate?

Hypothetically the diameter of the Oyashio is 8.9 m while the the C-1 overall height is 9.9 m so you may be able to squeeze it through if you remove the conning tower but come on you can't expect to remove it and place it back again without problems.

[The 48th Ronin]

Is the author riding on the popularity of Kancolle?

But this is interesting, though.

[Rimbo99]

While Itami, Rory and the others won't be the main focus, it won't mean that they won't appear. They'll be there in a limited capacity.

We've already seen the Empire and the lands they ruled but the thing is, its only a small part of a very larger world.

I get the feeling the second season would be akin to subnautica.

[Top Sergeant]

Originally Posted by MrTerrorist

Preview clip of the dub.

YouTube

https://youtu.be/pa5uFVuFBfE

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My pre-order of Gate arrived early. The dub is excellent. I will admit I did not expect Rory to say what she does at the Diet meeting, and you almost can't make it out because of the microphone feedback, but I was laughing my ass off!

The military jargon Itami's platoon uses is even better than in the sub, at least for a US viewer. They actually sound like soldiers, using terms such as wash rack after returning from the field, and referring to the Sergeant Major as Top.

[Gatmar]

It actually makes since they he should focus on the Naval side of the military in JSDF as it is the one Division of the JSDF that was not explored in the first series. they could not as it was in the middle of tokyo so they cant transport naval vehicles their.

Japan has a long history of being proud of it's navy as it was it's primary means of defense and main military force being an island nation after all. So it is not suprising it will focus on it next. That is also why you see a lot of series based on ships too.

For those asking as to how they managed to get a submarine their, the anwser is simple. When the Gate Closed the JSDF were already planning measures to control opening gates between them. Lelei at the time could open the gates herself although only for a short time and about the size of a person. With all those years of training it would be simple now to open a large gate and control where it will open.

[Yu Ominae]

http://www.inquisitr.com/4334331/gat...k-light-novel/

Has more details on the next novel.

[Hata]

Originally Posted by Yu Ominae

Has more details on the next novel.

that article actually has some mistakes, the obvious one is the part 2 lead is no longer Itami, but the ship's cook.

in any case, the book is out, with it also the test read chapter 1 on the official website, there are pictures/description of the new characters and an enlarge map with new landmass revealed.

Spoiler for chapter 1:

pretty much an action pack chapter with few if none of the explanation, JMSDF Kitashio is submerging in order to penetrate monsters and pirates infested territory with the goal to rescue the American reporter, encounter an "armor whale" sea creature and sunk it with 2 torpedos, then take in a local supporter through the torpedo tube-- she being a mermaid. that is it, no explanation of how a sub made its way to the other side, or why the sub is being chosen instead of a ship, those probably will be revealed in later chapters.

[xShARkx]

Originally Posted by Hata

that article actually has some mistakes, the obvious one is the part 2 lead is no longer Itami, but the ship's cook.

in any case, the book is out, with it also the test read chapter 1 on the official website, there are pictures/description of the new characters and an enlarge map with new landmass revealed.

Spoiler for chapter 1:

pretty much an action pack chapter with few if none of the explanation, JMSDF Kitashio is submerging in order to penetrate monsters and pirates infested territory with the goal to rescue the American reporter, encounter an "armor whale" sea creature and sunk it with 2 torpedos, then take in a local supporter through the torpedo tube-- she being a mermaid. that is it, no explanation of how a sub made its way to the other side, or why the sub is being chosen instead of a ship, those probably will be revealed in later chapters.

Thank you for the spoiler! If it's not asking to much, could you please translated the infos of this page:

http://www.gate2-alphapolis.com/

[Yu Ominae]

Looks like the website is showing off info on various islands the JMSDF.

Can't wait for obligatory SBU.

And arrrr pirate girl.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

From a casual glance of the description of the new characters, it appears the main female character is an alcoholic, and is known as the "drunken princess".

[Hata]

this is subject to correction from native speaker.

according to reviews, it is for certain that Itami and his 5 harem girls did not appear in book 1, (Lelei was mentioned by name.) maybe later volume.

just a very quick low down on the 8 characters, start from the top left.
1. Tokushima Hajime: petty officer 2nd class, JMSDF Kitashio’s cook.
2. Etajima Goro: captain, JMSDF special region intel boss, whom first appears in Gate season 1.
3. Primera luna Agion: princess of Tinae, nickname “Tinae’s jewel of blue sea”. “drunken princess”.
4. Shura no Arch: captain of pirate ship Arch, friend of Primera.
5. Odette ze Negula: wing species? guardian of warship Odell, friend of Primera.

6. Shamrock ha Elixir: one of Tinae’s ruling “ten members commitee”, ambitious politician.
7. Isla de Pinos: of a demi human race Lennon with eye on forehead, Shamrock’s secretary.
8. Caipirinha em Ruyter: Tinae candidate captain of warship Odell.

with the decline of the Avian Empire, which used to rule over the Avian sea, the 7 islands of Tinae, Javiá, Ubulla, Manuham, Seiraf, Sarandip, and Routerbagga become independent. currently the sea traffic lanes in Avian sea are infested with pirates, In order to overcome that situation, Tinae which is inferior in military power will try to obtain the help of the Seiraf navy on the condition of Primera’s marriage, however, the region are fulled with political intrigue such as the 7 islands unification faction and the empire revival faction. JMSDF Kitashio which is under order to rescue a Chinese American reporter, who secretly penetrate the region and end up in the slave system, is soon embroiled in the chaotic ocean.

[Bonta Kun]

Sweet, always wanted to see the naval side of this tale and we got it!

Would have preferred a surface ship rather than a sub but I'll take it anyway.

[xShARkx]

Originally Posted by Hata

this is subject to correction from native speaker.

according to reviews, it is for certain that Itami and his 5 harem girls did not appear in book 1, (Lelei was mentioned by name.) maybe later volume.

just a very quick low down on the 8 characters, start from the top left.
1. Tokushima Hajime: petty officer 2nd class, JMSDF Kitashio’s cook.
2. Etajima Goro: captain, JMSDF special region intel boss, whom first appears in Gate season 1.
3. Primera luna Agion: princess of Tinae, nickname “Tinae’s jewel of blue sea”. “drunken princess”.
4. Shura no Arch: captain of pirate ship Arch, friend of Primera.
5. Odette ze Negula: wing species? guardian of warship Odell, friend of Primera.

6. Shamrock ha Elixir: one of Tinae’s ruling “ten members commitee”, ambitious politician.
7. Isla de Pinos: of a demi human race Lennon with eye on forehead, Shamrock’s secretary.
8. Caipirinha em Ruyter: Tinae candidate captain of warship Odell.

with the decline of the Avian Empire, which used to rule over the Avian sea, the 7 islands of Tinae, Javiá, Ubulla, Manuham, Seiraf, Sarandip, and Routerbagga become independent. currently the sea traffic lanes in Avian sea are infested with pirates, In order to overcome that situation, Tinae which is inferior in military power will try to obtain the help of the Seiraf navy on the condition of Primera’s marriage, however, the region are fulled with political intrigue such as the 7 islands unification faction and the empire revival faction. JMSDF Kitashio which is under order to rescue a Chinese American reporter, who secretly penetrate the region and end up in the slave system, is soon embroiled in the chaotic ocean.

Thank you!

[Hata]

500 pages, took me a couple of days just to browse through, first impression and essentials:

— Itami and his 5 harem girls did not appear in book 1.

-- two names from season 1 were mention in passing, Lelei's explosive magic and Kato as map consultant to JMSDF.

— timeline appears to be 4 years after gaiden 4, nothing is said how JMSDF gets her submarine to the other side.

— and this is not the only boat, they previously sent in an older model sub and it was almost sunk by the armor whale, thus they send in the newer model sub.

— it is because the armor whale length about 50-60 meters, can dive to thousands of meters depth, making speed at 12 knots, has extra thick exoskeleton skins, and can shoot air bubble wrapped supercavitating teeth at enemy, each around 6 meter long and 50cm thick and speed at supersonic 1500km/h, and oh yeah they are known to travel in pack, put holes in wooden boats bottom so they can feed off the falling sailors.

— the heroes went through the entire book without firing a shot.

— instead what this book has is espionage, political intrigue, double-cross, mutiny, sailing age sea battle, monster attacks, and gourmet diplomacy.

— Tokushima, the supposed lead of the story, has a serious personality which is totally opposite from Itami, a son of master chef, he was rated zero star by review because he made perfect dishes without personality like a robot, so he joins the JMSDF to gain more experiences in life, what is similar to Itami is how he attracts female species without even trying, Primera and Odette, two of the three lead females probably will fall for him in later story since he already save their lives once.

— Etajima, the intelligence boss, is a classic sail otaku (so he knows what to do on a sail boat) with good judgment in strategy and decision, Shura the pirate is so impressed that she though he was the captain of Kitashio.

— Primera, the princess, has her nickname for a second personality while getting drunk, since she was raised as a royalty she enjoys gourmet food. As the last princess she was deems as a symbol of the old empire, thus the target of assassination and kidnapping.

— Odette, the bird girl of the Monarch wing species, can fly higher and see farther than others, thus her species were made ship’s guide/guardian (sort of like a household’s witch) by giving weather/wind reports. Odette is inherently shy, but can talk to Tokushima since introduce to him through his food.

— Shura, a “good” pirate with a sense of justice, she hunts down the bad pirates and protect the civilians but does not belong to the military (thus a pirate in name.)

— Shamrock, the young ambitious politician, even if he is on the nation’s ruling “ten members committee”, he bemoans the fact he is the youngest and least powerful one, and always plotting how to get ahead without waiting for the 9 members before him to die of old age. he has many hidden agendas.

— the story started by jumping into action and ended with no afterward developments, etc. probably have to wait for book 2 for reactions/explanation.

— in author’s words later volumes will involve JMSDF surface ships and airplanes.

— one thing I noted: the Kitashio’s captain name is Kurokawa, and in book 5 of season 1 Mari Kurokawa mentions her father is a submarine captain in JMSDF. no idea if they are the same person or not.

[xShARkx]

Originally Posted by Hata

500 pages, took me a couple of days just to browse through, first impression and essentials:

— Itami and his 5 harem girls did not appear in book 1.

-- two names from season 1 were mention in passing, Lelei's explosive magic and Kato as map consultant to JMSDF.

— timeline appears to be 4 years after gaiden 4, nothing is said how JMSDF gets her submarine to the other side.

— and this is not the only boat, they previously sent in an older model sub and it was almost sunk by the armor whale, thus they send in the newer model sub.

— it is because the armor whale length about 50-60 meters, can dive to thousands of meters depth, making speed at 12 knots, has extra thick exoskeleton skins, and can shoot air bubble wrapped supercavitating teeth at enemy, each around 6 meter long and 50cm thick and speed at supersonic 1500km/h, and oh yeah they are known to travel in pack, put holes in wooden boats bottom so they can feed off the falling sailors.

— the heroes went through the entire book without firing a shot.

— instead what this book has is espionage, political intrigue, double-cross, mutiny, sailing age sea battle, monster attacks, and gourmet diplomacy.

— Tokushima, the supposed lead of the story, has a serious personality which is totally opposite from Itami, a son of master chef, he was rated zero star by review because he made perfect dishes without personality like a robot, so he joins the JMSDF to gain more experiences in life, what is similar to Itami is how he attracts female species without even trying, Primera and Odette, two of the three lead females probably will fall for him in later story since he already save their lives once.

— Etajima, the intelligence boss, is a classic sail otaku (so he knows what to do on a sail boat) with good judgment in strategy and decision, Shura the pirate is so impressed that she though he was the captain of Kitashio.

— Primera, the princess, has her nickname for a second personality while getting drunk, since she was raised as a royalty she enjoys gourmet food. As the last princess she was deems as a symbol of the old empire, thus the target of assassination and kidnapping.

— Odette, the bird girl of the Monarch wing species, can fly higher and see farther than others, thus her species were made ship’s guide/guardian (sort of like a household’s witch) by giving weather/wind reports. Odette is inherently shy, but can talk to Tokushima since introduce to him through his food.

— Shura, a “good” pirate with a sense of justice, she hunts down the bad pirates and protect the civilians but does not belong to the military (thus a pirate in name.)

— Shamrock, the young ambitious politician, even if he is on the nation’s ruling “ten members committee”, he bemoans the fact he is the youngest and least powerful one, and always plotting how to get ahead without waiting for the 9 members before him to die of old age. he has many hidden agendas.

— the story started by jumping into action and ended with no afterward developments, etc. probably have to wait for book 2 for reactions/explanation.

— in author’s words later volumes will involve JMSDF surface ships and airplanes.

— one thing I noted: the Kitashio’s captain name is Kurokawa, and in book 5 of season 1 Mari Kurokawa mentions her father is a submarine captain in JMSDF. no idea if they are the same person or not.

Thank you!

[xShARkx]

Can anyone confirm here if the season 2 of gate has been launched only in novel format? I mean book 11 only for the time being anyway. Any confirmation if they will also release it in light novel format? Volumes 21 and 22?

[Hata]

you do realize that if they sell both novel and LN at the same time then nobody is gonna buy the more expensive novel? just like western’s hard bound and paperback release, there will always be a delay of some certain times before they release the cheaper version,

as to how long? who knows, weight anchor is only out what, a month ago? my best guess is book 1 LN will be out the same time book 2 novel is available, and book 2 LN the same time book 3 novel, etc. from the experience of season 1 anywhere from half a year to 2 years?

[xShARkx]

Originally Posted by Hata

you do realize that if they sell both novel and LN at the same time then nobody is gonna buy the more expensive novel? just like western’s hard bound and paperback release, there will always be a delay of some certain times before they release the cheaper version,

as to how long? who knows, weight anchor is only out what, a month ago? my best guess is book 1 LN will be out the same time book 2 novel is available, and book 2 LN the same time book 3 novel, etc. from the experience of season 1 anywhere from half a year to 2 years?

No i didn't, that's why i asked. That's why questions exist in the first place, to take away your doubts. I asked because other people keep saying that they also launched the light novel, when the gate s2 page clearly shows that the designs(characters and etc) are from the novel and not the LN. It didn't make sense to me, but it still bothered me, so that's why i asked.

Anyway, thank you.

[Tri-ring]

Originally Posted by xShARkx

No i didn't, that's why i asked. That's why questions exist in the first place, to take away your doubts. I asked because other people keep saying that they also launched the light novel, when the gate s2 page clearly shows that the designs(characters and etc) are from the novel and not the LN. It didn't make sense to me, but it still bothered me, so that's why i asked.

Anyway, thank you.

I see many are misunderstanding the meaning of Light Novel(LN), in Japan Light Novel is a genre like light rock, Heavy Metal, classical, etc. It has nothing to do with the physical description of the media.

Bunkobon　(文庫本） the equivalent of a paperback will not be published for sometime. The publisher are publishing the Hardcovers first for the enthusiasts and then publish the paperbacks to sell more if the novel gains popularity.
The interesting part is most Light novel publishers jumps in from the Bunkobon type from the start and skips the Hardcover version because they know most readers will only pick up the Bunkobon versions since for the readers, Light novel is just light reading material thus the naming Light Novel.

[xShARkx]

Originally Posted by Tri-ring

I see many are misunderstanding the meaning of Light Novel(LN), in Japan Light Novel is a genre like light rock, Heavy Metal, classical, etc. It has nothing to do with the physical description of the media.

Bunkobon　(文庫本） the equivalent of a paperback will not be published for sometime. The publisher are publishing the Hardcovers first for the enthusiasts and then publish the paperbacks to sell more if the novel gains popularity.
The interesting part is most Light novel publishers jumps in from the Bunkobon type from the start and skips the Hardcover version because they know most readers will only pick up the Bunkobon versions since for the readers

I see this too and its a lot of people, they also keep talking about the web novel confusing it with the novel which is not canon, since the web novel was when gate was still a "fan-fiction" posted by the author in a forum\in the internet... They think that gate is: Web Novel, Light Novel, Manga and Anime! When the correct is: Novel, Manga, Light Novel and Anime. I'm not one of these people, i already knew this long ago! I just didn't knew how the Novel and Light Novel market in Japan worked, if they would release both materials together even if it didn't make sense to me.... I asked because who knows? Everything is possible! One thing that doesn't make sense to me can make sense to them in Japan.......

I knew that it didn't make sense to release the novel and the light novel together! Because for most people it doesn't\wouldn't make sense to buy the novel which is more expensive if the light novel is\was out, the light novel also has the bonus of images to illustrate a few scenes! But since i don't speak nihongo i couldn't confirm this by myself and other people keep saying that they were releasing the 2 season of the light novel together with the novel, so that's why i asked! So before responding to these people telling that they are wrong, i had to be certain.

Originally Posted by Tri-ring

Light novel is just light reading material thus the naming Light Novel.

I can't agree with you here, because there was a huge discussion between hata and aohige while back in this thread, about the term light novel, about it being "light", the meaning of the word "light novel" and other things, so is not exactly that simple... check this discussion out, is somewhere between the pages on this thread...

Anyway thank you!