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To Rising Dragon.. Aw, mistake from my part. So that's Valkyrie team. I see. I like your idea about them being women. |
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2008-07-31, 14:20 | Link #1044 | |
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2008-07-31, 14:22 | Link #1045 |
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having looked at the guren longassnamethaticantremember and the new lancelot albion i came up with an idea
Lloyd and ceceil went to town on the guren after they got it and made it too powerfull giving it a better arm and the new float system unlike anything seen before if they had those things then why didnt they put it on the lancelot first i think its becouse the lancelot couldnt properly power them when you compare the guren and lancelot you cant help but notice that the guren has alot less built in weapons then the lancelot the only built in weapons it has is a single wrist mouned gun (which doesnt need energy since it uses projectiles) and a single slash harken the fukshahdo arm is not a built in system as it can be detached and replaced at will and the new gefun net is the same since it wasnt built in the original as is the new shield and float system the lancelot on the other hand has four slash harkens with boosters and a bulit in shield system the msv swords and the varis are not bulit in what it made me think is that the lancelot was built from scratch to be a weapons platform with several intergrated weapon systems the other external weapon systems were added later after the lancelot was mostly finished which is why non of the other (non bulit it) weapon work based on its power generator (until the hadron booster was add to the concuesta model) while the guren was built (IMO) with the added external weapons in mind from the first stages in other words it was made with very little built in weapons becouse rakshata was planning to add the external weapons from the start and wanted it to be able to power them more effetively the arm and the shield as well as the float unit all drew power from the guren itself and thats why i think it was wired from the start to be able to generate more power for use in external systems that would explain why Lloyd said it was very easy to toy with since it was built to have new hardware added to it and that might be why the new guren has four energy fethers on each side while the lancelot only has three it can extend more power to the new float unit it also might explain why the new lancelot is missing some of the harkens it couldnt draw the power needed for the new float unit without having to ditch some of the other built in systems since it wasnt built with the new systems in mind
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i said that the guren was built to be able to extend more power for external uses and not internal ones
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2008-07-31, 14:40 | Link #1051 |
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[QUOTE=True Warrior;1770337]So Guren would be good for offense and Lancelot for defense?QUOTE]
no it would mean that if the guren has powerfull attachments then then it would be able to power them better then the lancelot could which is what lead Lloyd to install them on the guren in the first place but he went too far and created something that no one could pilot too bad no one told kallen since she's going to
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[quote=bladeofdarkness;1770354][quote=True Warrior;1770337]So Guren would be good for offense and Lancelot for defense?/
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2008-07-31, 14:45 | Link #1053 |
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Something like that, yes. Though it's in a sense not THAT different from how it has been so far - the Guren uses mostly raw power (that's to say, it's arm) anyway, whereas the Lancelot has far more alternatives/tricks up it's sleeve (as the Suzaku VS Todou fight would bear witness to, AFAIR).
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People, let me remind you the topic of the thread:
Mechs, Weapons, and Technology of Code Geass That is pretty self explanatory, so I believe off topic is a easy line to figure by yourself. Oh and if you do have a personal problem with someone, I would suggest PM instead.
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2008-07-31, 15:06 | Link #1056 | |
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actually if it ever came to the point where its truly about using the machines to their full abillty's then kallen would have one big adventage over suzaku if the new machines really are like the shen-hu (tallgis) then the pilots hurt themselves in order to use them more effectively the more power you use the more you hurt yourself if it came to a total no holds barred battle of wills then kallen would win (and die for it ) since she can go all the way while suzaku cant becouse of his geass its not a good thing ,but its an advantage
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2008-07-31, 15:10 | Link #1057 |
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Well, it's hard to say. Technically the Lancelot might be better, because.. Well, a powerful punch that is powerful enough to smash your opponent is no good if it doesn't hit it's opponent for one thing (of course, IF the punch really hits, then you're dead as well ).
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2008-08-01, 06:22 | Link #1058 |
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The problem with the new mech designs is that the mechs have lost alot of there versatility.
The Lancelot Albion judging from the OP lost alot of its toys. I can't see it waist mounted and forearm mounted slash harkens, its Varis or its float unit mounted hadron blaster. While the Guren has lost its parrying dagger, chest mounted slash harken and left arm mounted cannon. Now i'm not saying that they haven't had these weapons internalised or Sunrise are holding off in showing off their toys, but something seems suspect to me. I mean usually in Sunrise mecha shows during the OP you see the mechs with all their toys just looking fabulous and well apart from their designs they don't look so hot. Maybe they've cut down on alot of excess bagage to increase there speed and agility but still i think the trimming is maybe a little excessive. |
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2008-08-01, 06:31 | Link #1060 |
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I believe the Lancelot Albion may be incredibly fast, probably one of the fastest knightmares, considering if you look at it's appearance in the OP frame-by-frame, you'd notice it doesn't just appear behind the Guren Shouten Hakkyokushiki, it actually drops down behind in a speedy blur. So it's potential incredible speed should make up for the lack of weapons. And Albion being speedy is a good thing, considering Conquista was slow and bulky and completely uncharacteristic of the Lancelot we're normally used to.
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