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Nightengale · 2011-07-07, 07:11

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Originally Posted by Mizuno

The only pair that rivals RikuoxTsurara is RikuoxKitsune imo. Sad that the way the things played out it likely won't happen, but possibility is still there.

Eh, the mother that could never be angle was laid so thick it's downright impossible, I'd say.

Even more so considering how Wakana's existence is like almost erased entirely from mention ( one of the few good things the first anime season did was give Wakana presence ).

Homura7 · 2011-07-07, 08:57

Spoiler for 161:

Mizuno · 2011-07-07, 18:47

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Originally Posted by Nightengale

Eh, the mother that could never be angle was laid so thick it's downright impossible, I'd say.

Even more so considering how Wakana's existence is like almost erased entirely from mention ( one of the few good things the first anime season did was give Wakana presence ).

Well Kitsune's longing for Rihan and how Rikuo looks a lot like him might just prompt her to jump his bones.

btw was there anything mentioned about the curse? With the real Kitsune sent to hell, did it lift the curse? Or is it eternal?

cyberdemon · 2011-07-07, 19:06

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Originally Posted by Mizuno

Well Kitsune's longing for Rihan and how Rikuo looks a lot like him might just prompt her to jump his bones.

btw was there anything mentioned about the curse? With the real Kitsune sent to hell, did it lift the curse? Or is it eternal?

That's something that wont be figured out till rikuo does the deed with a youkai

Key Board · 2011-07-08, 08:54

The Kitsune thing was unnecessarily convoluted, because I think the author wasn't quite sure what he wanted her to be

Oh, they have a connection
OH, SHE'S HIS SISTER
No wait.. she's his father's first wife..
who went estranged and probably died a few hundred years ago
who happens to be a youkai.. who is possessed by another youkai...

wait.. what? how does that even work?

I think what the author tried to do was divorce school girl Kitsune from original Kitsune and try to establish her into a different character

Seriously.. was Yamabuki Otome really necessary?

Homura7 · 2011-07-08, 08:58

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Originally Posted by Key Board

Seriously.. was Yamabuki Otome really necessary?

Yep, because it served to explain Rihan's murder and why Kitsune was with child Rikuo at that time. I see nothing wrong with that. Besides, it gave more meaning to the "Nura curse".

Nayrael · 2011-07-08, 09:01

Yeah, it does look like he didn't know what to do with the end of Kyoto arc and beginning of HM Saga. A lot of plot-holes appeared, some of them being fixed in Tankobon Volumes (where it was better explained what kind of Youkai Yamabuki was and I think how exactly she became human).

However, there is no doubt that he wanted to give Kitsune's host some personality rather then just kill her.

And yes, Yamabuki Otome was necessary (tough her being the host probably not). It explains stuff like how Rihan got killed and why he needed so long to marry as well as give more meaning to the "Kitsune's Curse".

---

While we are at her, I wonder if the host remains to be a Kitsune tough Kuzunoha is dead. Seeing as Neneikimaru can hurt the human host, it seems to me like Kuzunoha transforms her host into a Kitsune.
I also wonder what kind of character will wake up: Yamabuki or the fake daughter? well, at least the author has enough time to plan her out now.

Key Board · 2011-07-08, 15:22

IIRC the Yamabuki is dead and Kitsune is in hell.. like.. literally..

Skull girl has the dead body at the moment and is preserving it because she thinks it will serve as a vessel to bring back Kitsune..

or something like that..

Nightengale · 2011-07-14, 11:43

Nurarihyon 162 :

This plot turn happened... rather anti-climatically, in my opinion. I would go so far to say it feels rather forced.

Not sure if it's for better or worse... but we're sure to see an increase in screen-time now. :|

Spoiler for 162:

BladeEntity · 2011-07-14, 11:51

Spoiler for Spoiler 162:

Damn Now I want to read 162

Key Board · 2011-07-14, 18:57

It's more than just that.. the masquerade is now broken

now EVERYONE knows what he is

It's like being outed as a mage/vampire/alien by muggles

Mizuno · 2011-07-15, 06:37

Spoiler for 162:

Iggy_Pop · 2011-07-15, 07:34

I don't know, to finally break up the masquerade?

Merilyn Mensola · 2011-07-15, 08:20

162...

Spoiler:

Shiroth · 2011-07-24, 04:10

Sometimes i'm surprised at what they can show in JUMP these days, and then chapter 161 happens

. That's a whole new meaning to 'off with your head'.

Xion Valkyrie · 2011-07-24, 17:15

I'm actually surprised at how blatant the killing was. I can't think of another jump title out right now where they actually show such gruesome killings outright.

Nayrael · 2011-07-24, 17:19

IMO, Tooryanse arc was even more gruesome: from him squishing female faces to Rikuo graphically splitting him into two parts.

Kanon · 2011-07-25, 11:24

Don't me tell me the author is trying to drag Kana back into the story... orz. I have to confess I was sort of hoping she'd just gradually fall into obscurity until she totally disappeared from the manga, but I suppose that was too much to hope. Futhermore, it would have been cruel to her fans.

Nayrael · 2011-07-25, 11:28

Rikuo's Youkai nature is now public and the author probably didn't want her to find it out by Kiyo coming and saying: "Hey Ienaga-san, Rikuo is a Youkai

", he made this happen. Kana may not be someone important anymore, but she is still a character that you would expect to find out about it in more dramatic way.

However, I doubt we will see her that much in future either.

Nayrael · 2011-07-25, 12:40

BTW, I don't remember if I posted this before but... here you have links to summaries and illustrations of the NuraMago Light Novels

The 4th LN is supposed to be released on 2nd September and it seems it will have Rihan during WW2.

2011-07-07, 08:57	Link #782
Homura7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	Spoiler for 161: So Sanmoto's yokais begin to show themselves in front of Rikuo, and the first one of them is none other than Akujo Nokaze, Sanmoto's duodenum and the most voracious of all his body parts.

2011-07-08, 08:54	Link #785
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	The Kitsune thing was unnecessarily convoluted, because I think the author wasn't quite sure what he wanted her to be Oh, they have a connection OH, SHE'S HIS SISTER No wait.. she's his father's first wife.. who went estranged and probably died a few hundred years ago who happens to be a youkai.. who is possessed by another youkai... wait.. what? how does that even work? I think what the author tried to do was divorce school girl Kitsune from original Kitsune and try to establish her into a different character Seriously.. was Yamabuki Otome really necessary? __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

2011-07-08, 09:01	Link #787
Nayrael The Faceless One Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Varaždin, Croatia Age: 33	Yeah, it does look like he didn't know what to do with the end of Kyoto arc and beginning of HM Saga. A lot of plot-holes appeared, some of them being fixed in Tankobon Volumes (where it was better explained what kind of Youkai Yamabuki was and I think how exactly she became human). However, there is no doubt that he wanted to give Kitsune's host some personality rather then just kill her. And yes, Yamabuki Otome was necessary (tough her being the host probably not). It explains stuff like how Rihan got killed and why he needed so long to marry as well as give more meaning to the "Kitsune's Curse". --- While we are at her, I wonder if the host remains to be a Kitsune tough Kuzunoha is dead. Seeing as Neneikimaru can hurt the human host, it seems to me like Kuzunoha transforms her host into a Kitsune. I also wonder what kind of character will wake up: Yamabuki or the fake daughter? well, at least the author has enough time to plan her out now. __________________

2011-07-08, 15:22	Link #788
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	IIRC the Yamabuki is dead and Kitsune is in hell.. like.. literally.. Skull girl has the dead body at the moment and is preserving it because she thinks it will serve as a vessel to bring back Kitsune.. or something like that.. __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

2011-07-14, 11:43	Link #789
Nightengale ~Night of Gales~ Author Join Date: Dec 2005	Nurarihyon 162 : This plot turn happened... rather anti-climatically, in my opinion. I would go so far to say it feels rather forced. Not sure if it's for better or worse... but we're sure to see an increase in screen-time now. :\| Spoiler for 162: So now Kana knows... Now, will the author go through with the crush~ storyline he had earlier? __________________ *Night~and~Gale: ~ The Final Mythology of the Man who Defied Destiny.* The sleeping lion shall awaken beyond the depths of time, crossing ten billion lights, come to Terra.

2011-07-14, 11:51	Link #790
BladeEntity Anything's Possible Author Join Date: Jul 2009	Spoiler for Spoiler 162: I guess it's only fair that all 3 girls know... Damn Now I want to read 162 __________________ Nothing is Impossible

2011-07-14, 18:57	Link #791
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	It's more than just that.. the masquerade is now broken now EVERYONE knows what he is It's like being outed as a mage/vampire/alien by muggles __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

2011-07-15, 06:37	Link #792
Mizuno Undefined Join Date: May 2004 Location: With the gods Age: 40	Spoiler for 162: Why does Kana still show up... why????? orz

2011-07-15, 07:34	Link #793
Iggy_Pop Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007	I don't know, to finally break up the masquerade?

2011-07-15, 08:20	Link #794
Merilyn Mensola I am a Boxer Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Where hot girls are fighting!	162... Spoiler: this gets really interesting! Now,Kana knows... I'm curious how she will react.. Yuki, vs Kana... Mmmmmm... Rikuo in this chapter,and in the previous chapter ,.. was just Bad ass..

2011-07-24, 04:10	Link #795
Shiroth Beautiful fighter. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: England, UK Age: 37	Sometimes i'm surprised at what they can show in JUMP these days, and then chapter 161 happens . That's a whole new meaning to 'off with your head'. __________________ MyAnimeList Twitter

2011-07-24, 17:15	Link #796
Xion Valkyrie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007	I'm actually surprised at how blatant the killing was. I can't think of another jump title out right now where they actually show such gruesome killings outright.

2011-07-24, 17:19	Link #797
Nayrael The Faceless One Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Varaždin, Croatia Age: 33	IMO, Tooryanse arc was even more gruesome: from him squishing female faces to Rikuo graphically splitting him into two parts. __________________

2011-07-25, 11:24	Link #798
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Don't me tell me the author is trying to drag Kana back into the story... orz. I have to confess I was sort of hoping she'd just gradually fall into obscurity until she totally disappeared from the manga, but I suppose that was too much to hope. Futhermore, it would have been cruel to her fans. __________________

2011-07-25, 11:28	Link #799
Nayrael The Faceless One Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Varaždin, Croatia Age: 33	Rikuo's Youkai nature is now public and the author probably didn't want her to find it out by Kiyo coming and saying: "Hey Ienaga-san, Rikuo is a Youkai ", he made this happen. Kana may not be someone important anymore, but she is still a character that you would expect to find out about it in more dramatic way. However, I doubt we will see her that much in future either. __________________

2011-07-25, 12:40	Link #800
Nayrael The Faceless One Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Varaždin, Croatia Age: 33	BTW, I don't remember if I posted this before but... here you have links to summaries and illustrations of the NuraMago Light Novels The 4th LN is supposed to be released on 2nd September and it seems it will have Rihan during WW2. __________________