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Perfect 10 | 31 | 43.06% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 19 | 26.39% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 13 | 18.06% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 8 | 11.11% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 1 | 1.39% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2012-02-14, 07:53 | Link #81 | |||||
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Indeed "change" is a pretty vague term,there's lots of ways to change something. Quote:
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Or the translation is again misleading. I'll get to the rest of your theory a bit later,maybe in another post.Right now I want to adress some things Skyfall brought up. @Skyfall First off I want to add another thing that could be a clue to Reiko beeing the "another":Kouichi's father has a couple times asked him to tell grandpa and grandma he said hello,never does he mention Reiko,who is supposed to be in the same household. Quote:
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2012-02-14, 08:05 | Link #82 |
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Skyfall's theory about the dead one being Reiko makes a lot of sense. And yes it having to be a student in the current class could be misleading. I definitely think the Another is associated with Kouichi in some way and well his aunt works (of course I'll be kind of disappointed if we already guessed so I still hope there is more to it)
Also I think I misunderstood what the father said to Kouichi, I thought he meant Kouichi had been there 18 months ago not that he was away from the town for only 18 months. Can someone confirm? If it was he was away for only 18 months that is doubly eerie.
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2012-02-14, 08:08 | Link #83 | ||
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This both highlights the fact Koichi's memories have been tampered with (and thus we can't necessarily trust his perspective), and raises the question: what reason did he have to be in this backwater town 1.5 years ago? (To which the answer would be Reiko's funeral, since I'm working under the suspicion that she is the "another"). Quote:
If we go by the theory that Reiko is "Another", the number of seats in the class would have been correct indeed - she isn't a member of said class, and thus doesn't need one. The numbers in the class were in balance. Then came Koichi, and threw said number off balance - becoming an 'extra' desk and addition to the register. Since those seem to be the conditions to trigger the phenomenon (number of expected students+1), the ball started rolling at that point (The "it started a month late" remark). "Been there 18 months ago" and "has been away from the town for 18 months" pretty much mean the same anyway in this context - that the last time Koichi visited Yomiyama was 18 months ago. We know Koichi normally lives in Tokyo and went to school there as well. Hence we have the question: what reason did he have to find himself in Yomiyama 1.5 years ago?
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2012-02-14, 08:18 | Link #84 | ||
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Or maybe the akward wording is due to the translation
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2012-02-14, 08:35 | Link #85 |
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I wasnt paying 100% attention yesterday to the libriarians explanation, but if I remember correctly, he said that one of the anothers was a girl name Mami and she was originally a member of a different class, but that particular year she appeared on the roster for the thrid class. After the year was over, she reappeared in her original class.
Now, I didt quite get this? Was she a dead person even before she got "transferred" into the 3rd class..... or did the real Mami disappear for one year and a dead person took her identity? |
2012-02-14, 08:56 | Link #86 |
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So when they say the curse doesn't affect your loved if they're outside Yomiyama, does it only mean that they're not in danger, and but can still have their memories altered? Because it sounded like to me that the father had his memory changed as soon as he side it.
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2012-02-14, 09:00 | Link #87 | |
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2012-02-14, 09:02 | Link #88 | |
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We know this metaphor confusion to be true since the idea of a "dead one" is used as an overriding metaphor for social isolation for at least eps 1-4. It could lean both ways, but I would lean more heavily towards the view that Kouichi lived in Tokyo from birth till Junior High, but for some unknown reason visited Yomiyama one and a half years ago for an unknown reason then forgot about it because it was not important.
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2012-02-14, 09:03 | Link #89 | |
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2012-02-14, 09:20 | Link #90 |
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Because by the time she died she should be out of the class. People isn't supposed to be affected when they leave the class.
My wild theory for now is that the MC is the Another. Everyone in the family including himself is subjected to the memory alteration. Too bad the dance segment isn't real. That totally rocks. |
2012-02-14, 09:24 | Link #91 | |
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For exemple in the other case the another that was a student in 1993 showed up as a student the same age in 1996.
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2012-02-14, 09:26 | Link #92 | |
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Either way, the cause of her death (as in, natural or supernatural) would be fairly inconsequential - what matters is whether Ritsuko did indeed die 18 months ago (and thus her current status as "Another" as result), knowing "how" doesn't really add anything to the equation, and as such wouldn't be really important either way in the grand scheme of things. Incidentally, that would also go for the theory of her dying 15 years ago - the ultimately important question to answer is "Did Ritsuko die", not "when" or "how". Both times of death could work (15 years ago and 18 months ago), but I prefer the 18 months ago theory, as it adds a reason to Koichi having visited Yomiyama said 18 months ago. Then there is the bird - if Ritsuko had died 15 years ago, it wouldn't have any recollection of her (And thus no constant "Why, Rei-chan, why), as the lifespan of Myna birds is only a couple of years - this specific bird was a few generations away from even becoming an egg at the time And then there is her appearance - assuming the "Another" retain their appearance as it was at the time of their death, Reiko doesn't look like a highschool student at all, but a grown up.
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2012-02-14, 09:32 | Link #95 |
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The Another has got to be someone in the class. The whole incident started because the class back then add Another to the class roster. If the Another can be outside the class, then it effectively means the whole class is already effectively ignoring it.
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2012-02-14, 09:39 | Link #96 |
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Okay, I just realized that it's actually pretty much obvious why Mei was chosen to be the ignored person. Her cousin died on April 26th. She took her place at the beat-up corner desk on May 1st. During those few days, the class asked her to be the ignored person. Why?
Because her cousin died. Therefore, she could not be the Other, because one of her relatives died! She would therefore be the most obvious candidate for this unpleasant job, since they were certain she wasn't the Other. Furthermore she now knows the pain of losing a family member to the calamity and would be willing to sacrifice herself so that no one else in the class would have to endure such pain, or live in constant fear of death themselves. The story about the class member 2 years ago who couldn't take the isolation anymore and declared he existed, restarting the calamity that year, is also instructive. The class had to be certain, and Mei had to be certain, that she could handle this burden for a whole year or risk disaster for everyone. In many ways Mei is the strongest of them all for willingly accepting this role. And she's unbelievably cute. <3 |
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2012-02-14, 09:45 | Link #98 | |
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I did a bit more thinking after my lost where I presented Miss Mikami and Reiko as the biggest suspect, and realized I rewatched the scene at the library in the hope the librarian's explanation would make more sense, but I only noticed one more inconsistency: at some point during the conversation, he said he remembers Mami Asakura was absent from the records of 1993 and present in 1996, and later claims that once the school year ends, "Another" is erased from people's memories and the records go back to normal. Does not compute.
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2012-02-14, 09:46 | Link #99 | |
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2012-02-14, 09:48 | Link #100 | ||
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So I suppose the bird "could" have been alive even 15 years ago, but I find it rather unlikely, though the possibility can't be discounted. Though there are other things that point at it being 1.5 years rather than 15 years, ultimately it sill wouldn't matter much, like I noted above - the important part is whether Ritsuko died, at all, information beyond that would be mostly dressing. Quote:
On another note, perhaps I have overlooked it (wouldn't be the first time ), but why would an "Another" necessarily have to be someone who died due to the phenomenon previously ? Chances are I missed it indeed, but I can't seem to recall such being mentioned by either Mei or the librarian. (In case it was Mei who said that, I claim defense by being too distracted with her to pay attention to the words )
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