Tokyo's Youth Ordinance Bill

[-Breakthrough-]

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...ne-this-summer

No confirmation that this is something related but...

The concept of the new publication will be a "pure manga magazine" — one that is not pigeonholed to any age range or gender.

Something like this sort of sounds like a combat response to Bill 156

[dvd-rmg]

Originally Posted by -Breakthrough-

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...ne-this-summer

No confirmation that this is something related but...



Something like this sort of sounds like a combat response to Bill 156

We'll just wait for its annoucement.

By the way, i found information about individuals support for a withdraw of the ordinance!

http://yaplog.jp/debirusumairu/archive/441
http://yaplog.jp/rinmiku345/archive/1560
http://yaplog.jp/tovs/archive/500

original text:

東京都青少年健全育成条例改正案で、

漫画家とかの反発を考慮して
来年の7月から規制開始するそうです。

だけど、まだまだ可能性はあるみたいです。

反対派の置名が
20万超えたら可決取り下げ可能。

東京都内で置名する所があるので
そこに行くみたいです。

可決の際に無くなるかもしれないアニメ＆漫画等
銀魂
ONEPIECE
BLEACH
ボカロ
家庭教師ヒットマンＲＥＢＯＲＮ！！

などなど･･･

皆さんが知っているものは多分殆ど見れなくなるかと思います。



ネットはテレビの敵なので
知ってる人少ないらしいんです！！

だから周りにできるだけ広めてください！
(友達とか、他サイトとかでもOK)

しかしアニメ反対の親とかには絶対言わないで下さい。

賛成派であれ反対派であれ、
影響力はかなりあるみたいです･･･。

とりあえず、
今は知名度が低いため
20万人集まる確率は
低いらしいです oｒｚ


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さてさて、反対の人はコピーしてブログに載せること決定ですね。

ってか･･･ボカロ関係なくない？？なんで？？

とか言ってても仕方ないし･･･行動起こさないとボカロも銀魂をなくなっちゃうし･･･。

人生に影響与えてくれたものもあるし･･･。

色んな人に知らせてきます。

皆さんも協力お願いします。



それでは三上でした。

Translated text:

Healthy development in youth ordinance amendment, Tokyo

To account for or opposition cartoonist
Regulation seems to begin from July next year.

However, the possibility is still there seems.

The opposition 置名
Withdrawal can pass exceeds 200,000.

Because the place in Tokyo 置名
I want to go there.

Animation may be lost during the passage and other comics
Gintama
ONEPIECE
BLEACH
Vocaloid
Hitman REBORN! !

・ ・ ・ Etc

You know what I think is what will most likely 見Renaku.



Because the enemy of the TV network
少Nairashii people I know! !

So please spread around as much as possible!
(My friends, or any other site OK)

The other parent or the anime, but never say please.

If any pro-opposition,
There seems to influence considerably ・ ・ ・.

Anyway,
Now a low profile because
200,000 gather probability
The 低Irashii orz


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Well, I decided against that person's blog post copy.

・ Tteka ・・Bokaro Not that relationship? ? Why? ?

It is no use to say ・ ・ ・ like a lost soul and going to cause silver Vocaloid ・ ・ ・ action.

Gave effect to some ・ ・ ・ life.

You can notify the various people.

Thank you help too.



So did the three.




"Spellbork(ᛊᛈᛖᛚᛚᛒᛟᚱᚲ)":
Verb:
1. To misconfigure, especially a computer or other complex device by a spell.
2. To break or damage one's plan, work, even career by a spell.

[-Breakthrough-]

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...kyo-law-listed

Surprise, surprise. This thing's actually targetting what was described instead of some vague bullshit formula. But this is still getting ridiculous.

[bayoab]

Originally Posted by -Breakthrough-

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...kyo-law-listed

Surprise, surprise. This thing's actually targetting what was described instead of some vague bullshit formula. But this is still getting ridiculous.

I'd still have to call this a vague bullshit formula because I'm not familiar with the works. What I notice is also not listed is the original target publishing age of most of these. The 2nd to last one seems to have a paper thin reason based on the description.

[-Breakthrough-]

Originally Posted by bayoab

I'd still have to call this a vague bullshit formula because I'm not familiar with the works. What I notice is also not listed is the original target publishing age of most of these.

A lot of the manga listed there have sexual softcore material that doesn't fall under the 18+ category. But it's nothing like plain ecchi. But those titles being softcore isn't the reason they're getting targetted. Also, the fact the Bill's targeting manga that actually centers around the shit it's supporters keep shoving down others' throats ( rape, incest, abuse, ect) is at least better than the Bill targeting something because of one panel or some vague implication of said material. (allusion to the Christopher Handley case in the USA where the court counted obscene material by the panels)

Not saying it's a good thing however.

[FatPianoBoy]

Originally Posted by ANN Article

the government cannot determine what works are subject to the law before release because it will not be clear until then.

Not vague at all.

[-Breakthrough-]

@FPB :: I wasn't referring to that part of the article in my last set of posts.

[Luk_008]

Looking to the manga titles that have been restricted, I think the bill's target is the sexual references combined with violence and not violence by itself.
This is only my impression, so I can be wrong.
To my mind all of these mangas being classified as mature stuff is not nonsense at all.

[asaqe]

Originally Posted by Luk_008

Looking to the manga titles that have been restricted, I think the bill's target is the sexual references combined with violence and not violence by itself.
This is only my impression, so I can be wrong.
To my mind all of these mangas being classified as mature stuff is not nonsense at all.

Still just a step in the wrong direction. Ah well that may actually encourage H-Game Adaptations to make H-OVAs and not blue ball it's audience anymore. But still, this along other thigns is proof Japanese Culture is not "cool" anymore

[-Breakthrough-]

Ishihara's officially proved that he can get any more stupid than he is now.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/inte...kan-responds/2

[asaqe]

And Yamakan's in retirement, making his words moot.

This is really just a beginning of the end of Japanese Culture here in North America. I bet within the next 5 years, there is a good chance the market will dry up and we would be embracing the Korean-Wave.

[Vexx]

These two are indicative of just how slippery it'll get:
Hanamizawa Q-taro Jisenshū Hana-Hiyori
By Q-taro Hanamizawa
Midori no Kisetsu (Blue-Green Season)
By Maakō
They may be explicit.... but as we all know sometimes sex happens with high schoolers. Its okay for Ishihara to write gang rape stories but its not okay to publish romantic comedies with sexual elements. This guy is some piece of work.

[dvd-rmg]

But remember, The bill perfectly violates chapter 3 of the japanese constitution.

By the way since no one is not saying it, I thinking to start a campaign with every else around for opposition of the bill.
Here my plans:


-Building a website along with a blog, tweets, facebooks and etc...
-Writing a supporting text for everyone to read it(i can write that).
-Writing responds the current events.
-To gather the number of supporters as possible.
-To gather a collectively of websites(along with blogs, tweets, facebooks and etc) around the world with the same views against the bill.
-While in basic english along with japanese, we could put translated texts or a translation program for every language for anyone around to read.
-To give the message both serious and necessary.
-We need a leader capable of taking responsiblity of every news, plans, and having strong experience on certain events and culture.

But the problem is i don't know how to make or design the website and also i need recomendations from everyone else from the forum.
We need everyone to support this.




"Spellbork(ᛊᛈᛖᛚᛚᛒᛟᚱᚲ)":
Verb:
1. To misconfigure, especially a computer or other complex device by a spell.
2. To break or damage one's plan, work, even career by a spell.

[Mr Hat and Clogs]

Originally Posted by -Breakthrough-

Ishihara's officially proved that he can get any more stupid than he is now.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/inte...kan-responds/2

Don't comments like that usually force people out of office?

Like if the mayor of NY said that 9/11 was deserved because of greedy bankers and their capitalist ways, he'd have found himself out on his ass quicker then you could say 'dude, wtf?'

[blitz1/2]

Originally Posted by dvd-rmg

But remember, The bill perfectly violates chapter 3 of the japanese constitution.

By the way since no one is not saying it, I thinking to start a campaign with every else around for opposition of the bill.
Here my plans:


-Building a website along with a blog, tweets, facebooks and etc...
-Writing a supporting text for everyone to read it(i can write that).
-Writing responds the current events.
-To gather the number of supporters as possible.
-To gather a collectively of websites(along with blogs, tweets, facebooks and etc) around the world with the same views against the bill.
-While in basic english along with japanese, we could put translated texts or a translation program for every language for anyone around to read.
-To give the message both serious and necessary.

But the problem is i don't know how to make or design the website and also i need recomendations from everyone else from the forum.
We need everyone to support this.




"Spellbork(ᛊᛈᛖᛚᛚᛒᛟᚱᚲ)":
Verb:
1. To misconfigure, especially a computer or other complex device by a spell.
2. To break or damage one's plan, work, even career by a spell.

YOu forgot one factor, we also need one person to put a piece of lead in Ishihara's brain or maybe a few for his closest supporters.

[dvd-rmg]

Originally Posted by blitz1/2

YOu forgot one factor, we also need one person to put a piece of lead in Ishihara's brain or maybe a few for his closest supporters.

If you mean i forgot one i should put this.:

-We need a leader capable of taking responsiblity of every news, plans, and having strong experience on certain events and culture.

I would recommend that once the planned website is completed, We will decide "who" will taking charge of it.

Oh and we need a designer for the website as well!


"Spellbork(ᛊᛈᛖᛚᛚᛒᛟᚱᚲ)":
Verb:
1. To misconfigure, especially a computer or other complex device by a spell.
2. To break or damage one's plan, work, even career by a spell.

[Vexx]

Originally Posted by Mr Hat and Clogs

Don't comments like that usually force people out of office?

Like if the mayor of NY said that 9/11 was deserved because of greedy bankers and their capitalist ways, he'd have found himself out on his ass quicker then you could say 'dude, wtf?'

Yes, but much of Ishihara's support comes from the "elderly block" that has very skewed views of youth culture anyway. The ones that actually vote (rather like the US where screwing with the "old people" vote is political suicide because they actually vote unlike most of the young people).

No one in Japan seems to have had the epiphany that Ishihara is destroying jobs with these attitudes ... Japan's economy can't afford losing the global opportunities of pop culture export.

[-Breakthrough-]

Putting industry issues aside: Ishihara's done plenty of screw ups with the Shin Ginko in Tokyo and the Fish Market issue. He's gotten less and less votes in the past few elections, his popularity's decreasing. But that still isn't enough as long as he has allies.

[asaqe]

Originally Posted by Vexx

Yes, but much of Ishihara's support comes from the "elderly block" that has very skewed views of youth culture anyway. The ones that actually vote (rather like the US where screwing with the "old people" vote is political suicide because they actually vote unlike most of the young people).

No one in Japan seems to have had the epiphany that Ishihara is destroying jobs with these attitudes ... Japan's economy can't afford losing the global opportunities of pop culture export.

They already have lost. Korea is replacing them as what's hip in the Asian cultural sphere. Who would know conforming to American culture work so well?

[dvd-rmg]

Originally Posted by -Breakthrough-

Putting industry issues aside: Ishihara's done plenty of screw ups with the Shin Ginko in Tokyo and the Fish Market issue. He's gotten less and less votes in the past few elections, his popularity's decreasing. But that still isn't enough as long as he has allies.

If those issues were failures, then the youth ordinance can fail as well.

Big news!, There's a union of protest groups against the Osaka youth ordinance.

Original text:
http://www.tokyo-np.co.jp/s/article/...601000920.html

Translated text:
http://translate.google.com/translat...601000920.html


"Spellbork(ᛊᛈᛖᛚᛚᛒᛟᚱᚲ)":
Verb:
1. To misconfigure, especially a computer or other complex device by a spell.
2. To break or damage one's plan, work, even career by a spell.