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Old 2017-09-12, 12:04   Link #621
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Nnn... So I'm currently watching the anime

Can someone explain about this [Program] spell?

Smartphone dude can set programs to a bullet like :

"Use [Slip] after [Slip] effect is over"

There's some problems with this :

1. So is the bullet casting the spell? [Slip] is non-elemental spell, and such spell can only be casted by specific person. Or programmed object can use every spell that the programmer has?
2. The mana supply. Was the entire mana needed to use the program injected during the programming? Or it's continously supplied by the caster each activation? The former is problematic since the program is infinite loop, means infinite mana is needed. The latter too is problematic since it means the mana transfer is probably faster than lightspeed, coz there's no lag whatsoever in the instances of program activation shown so far.

Please explain...
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Old 2017-09-12, 12:31   Link #622
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Nnn... So I'm currently watching the anime

Can someone explain about this [Program] spell?

Smartphone dude can set programs to a bullet like :

"Use [Slip] after [Slip] effect is over"

There's some problems with this :

1. So is the bullet casting the spell? [Slip] is non-elemental spell, and such spell can only be casted by specific person. Or programmed object can use every spell that the programmer has?
2. The mana supply. Was the entire mana needed to use the program injected during the programming? Or it's continously supplied by the caster each activation? The former is problematic since the program is infinite loop, means infinite mana is needed. The latter too is problematic since it means the mana transfer is probably faster than lightspeed, coz there's no lag whatsoever in the instances of program activation shown so far.

Please explain...
I don't know if I can best put it into words but here goes...
1."Program" is a null type spell itself meaning only a few individuals can use it(Leen and Touya). In this episode, Touya used another Null spell "enchant" which gives certain properties and effects to an object. He enchanted the bullet with the effect of the skill, "slip" and then programmed the bullet to activate the effect of "slip" whenever it's effects would run out. So I think that the bullet itself is not casting the spell. It has been programmed to activate the effect or the enchantment put by Touya himself.

2.I think it's the latter. This is my personal opinion but I think that those problems don't matter for Touya I mean he's a guy who can use all the elements and every null skill just by learning what the null skill is about. Also, he programmed the bullet that the effect would stop when the caster orders for it so if mana was an issue he would cancel the spell.
I hope that this answers your question and if I'm wrong anywhere corrections would be appreciated.
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Old 2017-09-12, 12:34   Link #623
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^He didn't use enchant though...
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Old 2017-09-12, 12:37   Link #624
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^He didn't use enchant though...
I just saw the episode and he did. Watch from 14:40
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Old 2017-09-12, 12:45   Link #625
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^Oh, right~

So [program] can only executes normal orders, but with the addition of [enchant] it becomes capable of using spells too

Fumu, fumu

......But wait

Then the latter option of continous supply from the caster is debunked then?
Coz you know, Enchanted Weapons...
There are smiths that created Enchanted Equipments
There's no way that they continously supply mana for hundreds or thousands of them...
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Old 2017-09-12, 12:52   Link #626
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^Oh, right~

So [program] can only executes normal orders, but with the addition of [enchant] it becomes capable of using spells too

Fumu, fumu

......But wait

Then the latter option of continous supply from the caster is debunked then?
Coz you know, Enchanted Weapons...
There are smiths that created Enchanted Equipments
There's no way that they continously supply mana for hundreds or thousands of them...
I guess yeah. I think we can assume that the caster/user of the weapon would have to supply his mana each time the effect runs out. Not if they can find and feed their weapons soul gems somehow.
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Old 2017-09-12, 13:02   Link #627
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^Oh shit, if people other than the enchanter can refill the mana, wouldn't that means this smartphone dude can create A FUCKING INVINCIBLE ARMY!!!!???

Have this smartphone dude enchant many items with powerfull null spells, then made an army armed with those!

We will have each soldier capable of using [Boost] and [Accel] and shit!

WORLD CONQUEST!!! YIIIIIIHAAAAAAAAA!!!

Well of course he won't do that since he is an extremely good person~
Did he kill anyone till the end of the WN btw?
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Old 2017-09-12, 13:06   Link #628
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^Oh shit, if people other than the enchanter can refill the mana, wouldn't that means this smartphone dude can create A FUCKING INVINCIBLE ARMY!!!!???

Have this smartphone dude enchant many items with powerfull null spells, then made an army armed with those!

We will have each soldier capable of using [Boost] and [Accel] and shit!

WORLD CONQUEST!!! YIIIIIIHAAAAAAAAA!!!

Well of course he won't do that since he is an extremely good person~
And he probably wouldn't need an army to do that. He'd just slip them non-stop.

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Did he kill anyone till the end of the WN btw?
I'm sorry I'm not caught up with the WN so I can't answer that question.
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Old 2017-09-12, 14:34   Link #629
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^ In latest raws, almost every single country in the world is part of the conference. The only ones not part of it are busy cleaning up things in their own countries.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

maaan he seriously needs more space and games in the game room in that regard.

I'm pretty sure Yuuron is still quite butthurt as well as Sandora(?) in regards to him.

I'd really like to know how Regina attempts to persuade Touya for more mech templates tho~
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Old 2017-09-12, 15:08   Link #630
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like china-ish country sempai.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

maaan he seriously needs more space and games in the game room in that regard.

I'm pretty sure Yuuron is still quite butthurt as well as Sandora(?) in regards to him.

I'd really like to know how Regina attempts to persuade Touya for more mech templates tho~
Both Yuuron and Sandora are gone. Yuuron completely fell apart after a large scale fraze invasion and Sandora fell apart after Touya freed all the slaves.

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^Oh shit, if people other than the enchanter can refill the mana, wouldn't that means this smartphone dude can create A FUCKING INVINCIBLE ARMY!!!!???

Have this smartphone dude enchant many items with powerfull null spells, then made an army armed with those!

We will have each soldier capable of using [Boost] and [Accel] and shit!

WORLD CONQUEST!!! YIIIIIIHAAAAAAAAA!!!

Well of course he won't do that since he is an extremely good person~
Did he kill anyone till the end of the WN btw?
He doesn't give anything of the sort to his knights (though he does give them top grade equipment that only he can make), but he does give his harem rings with multiple null spells enchanted on them.

As for killing, no humans but he has killed that evil god/runaway god and one of the ruler class (humanoid) fraze leaders.
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Old 2017-09-12, 15:17   Link #631
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if Sandora's gone... if that nutjob prince and family get de-collared...
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Old 2017-09-12, 15:29   Link #632
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if Sandora's gone... if that nutjob prince and family get de-collared...
sempai they cannot win also they cannot get protagonist that gives gundam and crystal sword and mythril armors right.

thx sempai I thought china-ish country still exist.
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Old 2017-09-13, 04:40   Link #633
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So basically Yuuron fell apart completely because of the invasion but how is the land being managed? isn't it biggest country in the setting?
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Old 2017-09-13, 05:59   Link #634
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sempai I don't know if I read this correct or not I read on mt version that someone steal the robot is true or not I hard time reading this version sempai
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Old 2017-09-13, 06:11   Link #635
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So basically Yuuron fell apart completely because of the invasion but how is the land being managed? isn't it biggest country in the setting?
likely the former territory becomes open season to annex OR its treated as something of a disaster zone which some call the "Old Yuuron" or something like that. tho that would be weird since afaik the territory constituting Yuuron shouldn't be that shattered enough to form a wasteland.
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Old 2017-09-13, 07:00   Link #636
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Last I recall the smaller lords in Yuuron declared themselves independent of each other and are still fighting for superiority.
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Old 2017-09-13, 07:17   Link #637
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For Yuuron, basically a ton of people start naming themselves the rightful heir to the throne and fight amongst themselves while the civilians flee to the surrounding countries en masse. It never stood back up and remains essentially a lawless land.
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Old 2017-09-13, 08:10   Link #638
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^uhm so you technically saying that Yuuron become anything goes land. ^^?
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Old 2017-09-13, 17:20   Link #639
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still sempai sandora still exist right
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Old 2017-09-13, 18:34   Link #640
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^ No. It fell apart after all the slaves were released from the magic collars, thus allowing the slaves (which outnumbered non-slaves) to revolt. The capital turned into a ghost town afterward and most of the slaves were sent back to their home town once things settled down. Another major city of it was also completely destroyed by the evil god when it was in the middle of growing, so there's not many people still left living in that area anymore.
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