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Old 2018-04-19, 09:08   Link #2421
Kuroageha
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How to trigger viewers even more after episode 14 fail in 4 simple steps:
  1. Happy Ichigo
  2. Ichigo piloting with Hiro
  3. 02 sad/suffering
  4. Hiro not reuniting with 02

One hit in trailer, 3 and 4 for sure will be hit. If 2nd happen it will be better to not read any anime boards for a while...
From what the PV tells emo Hiro is back to the bench watching others pilot which means Ichigo is happy until she clashes with 02 mid battle.
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Old 2018-04-19, 09:43   Link #2422
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Spoiler for Because this REALLY should be discussed in spoiler tags since it wasn't in the episode:
Actually, we have a much bigger plot going on. This is just some teenage drama...

And can I say I predicted that
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Old 2018-04-19, 09:55   Link #2423
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Actually, we have a much bigger plot going on. This is just some teenage drama...

And can I say I predicted that
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Old 2018-04-19, 10:02   Link #2424
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Old 2018-04-19, 10:04   Link #2425
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Old 2018-04-19, 10:07   Link #2426
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From what the PV tells emo Hiro is back to the bench watching others pilot which means Ichigo is happy until she clashes with 02 mid battle.
And if she will manage to beat her/calm her down it will be Zestiria DLC all over again (where most hated character Rose (Ichigo) beat (literally) fans favorite Alisha (02) in her own DLC (show) - opposite to what players (viewers) wanted).
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Old 2018-04-19, 10:10   Link #2427
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And if she will manage to beat her/calm her down it will be Zestiria DLC all over again (where most hated character Rose (Ichigo) beat (literally) fans favorite Alisha (02) in her own DLC (show) - opposite to what players (viewers) wanted).
Pretty sure there is something more going on cuz Goro is reasonable and smart, unlike Ichigo. He wouldn't fight 02 for no reason, especially when they are in the middle of a big battle.

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Old 2018-04-19, 11:56   Link #2428
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Old 2018-04-19, 12:13   Link #2429
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^We’ll have the answers to our questions when the episode comes out.
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Old 2018-04-19, 12:20   Link #2430
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Old 2018-04-19, 12:24   Link #2431
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Spoiler for wait a minute...:
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Old 2018-04-19, 12:35   Link #2432
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Also I don't actually hate anyone. I'm actually quite confident that 02 will undergo some kind of redemption some time during the episodes that are left. Unlike some people here, I actually think she has it in her to change. I'm just annoyed at how much bullshit people are willfully ignoring just because a girl gets naked a few times.
What I find annoying is your incessant need to assume that anybody sympathetic for ZeroTwo must only be doing so for shallow reasons. Stop with the keyboard psychiatry and get a grip.

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Also, as much as people seem to think Ichigo is some kind of slut for silly reasons. I see absolutely no reason to believe she wouldn't have left things alone if his life wasn't at risk.
Nobody on this forum called Ichigo a slut and nobody wants to listen to your whining about other forums.

Besides, the last episode did make it rather clear that her feelings for Hiro were a significant factor in keeping Hiro and ZeroTwo away from each other. We can tell because none of the other team members were as gung-ho about it and acted more out of loyalty to Ichigo than anything else. If Ichigo weren't in love with Hiro then she still probably would've want to keep ZeroTwo away but ultimately respect Hiro's decision to meet her, just like she forced herself to do in Episode 4. I certainly don't blame Ichigo for what she did though. In the grander scheme of things, she's placed a crappy situation making decisions she shouldn't have to make. The blame ultimately rests with the system they live under that pushes them to these points.
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Old 2018-04-19, 13:02   Link #2433
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Old 2018-04-19, 13:25   Link #2434
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Old 2018-04-19, 13:45   Link #2435
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For a week I kept hearing stories about the fan backlash to ep14 and how Ichigo was not the most hated character in the history of anime.

I finally caught up with the episodes and... I just don't see the reason for the "controversy". Sure, the backstory between Hiro and Zero Two is tragic, but the rest of Platoon 13 don't know it and Zero Two was acting like a b*tch for the last four episodes episodes, specially this one, so they are all justified in their actions in my view...
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Old 2018-04-19, 13:50   Link #2436
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Besides, the last episode did make it rather clear that her feelings for Hiro were a significant factor in keeping Hiro and ZeroTwo away from each other. We can tell because none of the other team members were as gung-ho about it and acted more out of loyalty to Ichigo than anything else. If Ichigo weren't in love with Hiro then she still probably would've want to keep ZeroTwo away but ultimately respect Hiro's decision to meet her, just like she forced herself to do in Episode 4. I certainly don't blame Ichigo for what she did though. In the grander scheme of things, she's placed a crappy situation making decisions she shouldn't have to make. The blame ultimately rests with the system they live under that pushes them to these points.
What about when she overheard Nana and Hachi talk about how Hiro can genetically transform into something non-human and when the Nine pilot told her about 02 draining her stamens' lives away? I think those were pretty large factors as well. Maybe even more than her romantic feelings.
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Old 2018-04-19, 14:20   Link #2437
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An interesting theory....
I second that!
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Old 2018-04-19, 14:25   Link #2438
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For a week I kept hearing stories about the fan backlash to ep14 and how Ichigo was not the most hated character in the history of anime.

I finally caught up with the episodes and... I just don't see the reason for the "controversy". Sure, the backstory between Hiro and Zero Two is tragic, but the rest of Platoon 13 don't know it and Zero Two was acting like a b*tch for the last four episodes episodes, specially this one, so they are all justified in their actions in my view...
It's the shipping aspect. That's why.

The majority don't put much more thought beyond the kiss and the fact that Ichigo kept the main couple apart. The minority give different reasoning behind the controversy, though the opinions tend to be mixed in terms of who the majority of the blames lies with.
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Old 2018-04-19, 14:31   Link #2439
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What about when she overheard Nana and Hachi talk about how Hiro can genetically transform into something non-human and when the Nine pilot told her about 02 draining her stamens' lives away? I think those were pretty large factors as well. Maybe even more than her romantic feelings.
I don't think they could possibly be any larger than her actually seeing ZeroTwo nearly killing Hiro. In any case all that came out in the furore from the beginning and the other team-mates still weren't gung-ho about the segregation. Even Goro whose seen the effects with his own eyes still persuaded Ichigo to let ZeroTwo talk to Hiro
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Old 2018-04-19, 14:35   Link #2440
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For a week I kept hearing stories about the fan backlash to ep14 and how Ichigo was not the most hated character in the history of anime.

I finally caught up with the episodes and... I just don't see the reason for the "controversy". Sure, the backstory between Hiro and Zero Two is tragic, but the rest of Platoon 13 don't know it and Zero Two was acting like a b*tch for the last four episodes episodes, specially this one, so they are all justified in their actions in my view...
Personally, I'm not the type to get riled up over this stuff too much, but I think the bit that made her unlikeable throughout the affair was that she was doing it mostly for selfish reasons. Which really shows when she ends up confessing to Hiro immediately after.
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