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Perfect 10 | 15 | 17.24% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 33 | 37.93% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 21 | 24.14% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 8 | 9.20% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 3.45% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 3 | 3.45% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 1.15% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 1.15% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 2 | 2.30% | |
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2015-01-20, 08:58 | Link #201 |
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I'm doubting that is is the only reason.
That his buddy can rescue Asseylums life is a pluspoint that he could not refuse to use. But Slaine had no problem with helping Saaz last season and he still has no problem with that in this season. He still believes in Saaz and is gladly helping him with his plans to exterminate humans on earth. Saaz is his ally and from Slaines point of view, it is only resonable to work together with him. |
2015-01-20, 09:16 | Link #202 |
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Until Asseylum is in a coma he is stuck with Saazbaum no matter what. On the other hand it is true that he didn't show any regret on whatever Saazbaum is doing, and so he is helping with, to the Terrans.
For that reason Asseyum needs to wake up at a certain point IMO, to make Slaine faces what he is ignoring right now, forcing him to make a choice. Between her or Saazbaum. That, letting aside what could happen to her when she'll wake up, talking about Lemrina here, more than Saazbaum. Having on the opposite side maybe Eddelrittuo, but she seems to be really prone to be a servant, no matter who is the master. Now that Slaine is a Knight she has no problems with him. But instead she was ready to tell everything she knew about Inaho and Co. who instead are not Martians nor VERS.
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2015-01-20, 12:47 | Link #204 | |
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A is unnecessary when he can do C. The Terrans were already there taking over the base. He doesn't need to do anything to leave her to the Terrans. In fact, it might've been a better choice for her health instead of transporting her in a kat. And as for the technology to help her, she's suffering from gunshot wounds, not some magical Aldnoah health problem. Or With B/D, he can still go to the Martians after leaving/killing Saazbaum, who is a proven threat to Asseylum's life, twice. And of course, there's the fact that he could have not saved Saazbaum in the first place. |
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2015-01-20, 13:22 | Link #205 | |
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2. Saazbaum's life is needed because he was the only one person that Slaine can ask for help at that moment. And they already made a deal. If Saazbaum still want to kill Asseylum , he would already done it in the past 19 months. Saazbaum could just order his soilder to kill both Slaine and Asseylum when they were unaware on his ship. Since he didn't do that, then, it means Saazbaum is keeping his promise (I don't know, maybe Saazbaum is just stupid.)
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2015-01-20, 13:31 | Link #206 | |
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And while the Martians may have better technology, that doesn't mean the Terrans weren't a viable option for treating gunshot wounds. |
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2015-01-20, 14:52 | Link #209 | |
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Also, you forget that they had a hard enough time just getting Inaho to surgery in time and that he would have died without the plot convience of Aldnoah power. Asseylum would have been even more baggage that they would have had to split their already limited medical staff. The Terrans would have probably lost one of them. Remember also that Asseylum was injured worse than Inaho. The drive actually shut off, which means she was again very near death or practically dead. When Inaho touched it, even while shot in the head, the drive actually started up and kept on the entire time. The drive recognized Inaho as being more "alive" than Asseylum. So who knows if the Terrans could have saved her?
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2015-01-20, 15:13 | Link #210 | ||||
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Now, regarding the Terrans having a hard time getting Inaho some medical care, first of all Slaine wouldn't know that considering the Terrans were winning and taking over the base. And second of all, he could also actually communicate with them considering Asseylum's worth. He would then still be able to use his kat if it turns out they needed transportation. Or he could even help them activate the Deucalion's drive. Quote:
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2015-01-20, 15:32 | Link #211 |
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I'm not sure it actually is, at least once the drive is activated. I mean, Saazbaum could leave his castle, fly down to Earth and murder Cruhteo without his castle's drive shutting off, and that's a much bigger distance than Asseylum was from the Deucalion.
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2015-01-20, 16:05 | Link #213 | ||||
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In terms of this situation, I think that it's perfectly logical and even human nature to go back to what you know inhabits safety, rather than take a chance on something that is not a sure thing. Slaine's last encounter with the Terrans had them trying to kill him, so there's not a lot of trust there. Also, he had no idea of knowing how long it would take them to get to them there in that chamber or how far away their medical services and staff were and if they even had enough medical supplies to be able to treat such critical wounds. Remember that they were in the middle of Siberia next to a bunker that had just had the crap blown out of it. It doesn't really inspire a lot of hope for quality help coming in time. Quote:
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Also, the time that he would have required to talk, explain, and communicate can cost lives. At least with the Martians, they know to take orders and would recognize both Saazbaum and Slaine's uniform, which is less time and problems. Also remember that the UEF's victory, while a victory, was a Pyrrhic one. They'd lost a lot of supplies and men, that it practically undercut the success of the victory itself. That's not a situation that inspires confidence. Slaine's first priority was Asseylum and Asseylum alone, he needed to get her help. He didn't care about the Terrans, Inaho, or even Saazbaum, his mind was singly on getting her to a doctor. The Terran side is full of too many what ifs, too many chances that he's not willing to take. He went with where he knew he could get help. Quote:
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And your only response is that it's because he couldn't trust the Terrans because they tried to kill him when he's the one who shot at Inaho first and also entered a battlefield in Martian technology whereas he could trust people who wanted Asseylum dead because at least he knew them? So it's about Slaine and his comfort zone/insecurity rather than what's best for Asseylum. Quote:
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2015-01-20, 17:23 | Link #215 | |
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So, here another possibility, let's reverse the question, what could he have done if Asseylum really died? If he had chosen to surrender to Inaho he most probably would have been imprisoned. He could have done nothing worthy from his POW (about which we still don't fully know where it stands. But yes, by killing Inaho he almost killed the only hope Earth would have had, but well, yeah, as I said he took a side so he surely prioritized that side). What if he had chosen to help Saazbaum? He would have still had the chance, following an obvious even for himself dark path, in the hope to gain the power needed to make the difference. Saazbaum needed him. They would have Asseylum, dead or alive, a win-win situation in both cases. He would have been a hero because he saved the princess or because he took her corpse to where she belong, to her people to her family. But all the Terrans then? He will face it sooner or later. ( my guess is that he will sacrifice himself to save Asseylum or Inaho, that would be the easiest way for the writers to handle the matter ).
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2015-01-20, 18:08 | Link #217 | |
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After all, one of the things he's very quick to establish when talking about his betrayal of the Emperor is how the Emperor betrayed him and the rest of Mars first - he's essentially extracting payment for a debt that the Emperor doesn't know he owes. And Slaine knows all that. As much as he makes bad choices, he's not stupid, and he's good at predicting how people will act.
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2015-01-20, 18:42 | Link #218 | ||
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About Saazbaum not being better than the Emperor I obviously agree with you. But again, I'm assuming Slaine plan is to kill him (how he is committed to it it still to be seen), or near that. I'm under the impression he has still some hope he could be better than the Emperor, but at least he is on the fence More likely Asseylum (and Inaho in the process maybe). What I'm expecting from the show is that will find a way to redeem him. Somehow I'm expecting a similar epilogue to S1 in which Slaine will make a different choice. But not really betting on it.
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