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Old 2016-03-18, 01:38   Link #41
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Vampires can also just stay away from battle and leave everything to the humans.
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Old 2016-03-18, 07:39   Link #42
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as long as there would be no zombie variants appearing . . . like the ones from Dawn of the Dead, World War Z, Left 4 Dead . . .
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Old 2016-03-18, 07:46   Link #43
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At the moment it seems to be only traditional zombies, with animals included (bugs unknown) and infection given only through bites.
I guess we can only wait for more info.
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Old 2016-03-18, 07:48   Link #44
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considering that vampires have cheat abilities (along with very strong weaknesses)... them zombies could use a little bit of helping hand . . . .
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Old 2016-03-18, 15:10   Link #45
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Old 2016-03-19, 08:18   Link #46
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It actually makes a lot of sense why vampire would win, tradittionally, even while they are not on Japanese level of buff, the vampire are still one among the higher ranked one out there, while zombie, even now, still mob among mob
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Old 2016-03-19, 08:34   Link #47
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I don't understand what you're talking about, guys. I don't see a single reason for vampires to win.
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Old 2016-03-19, 09:09   Link #48
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Zombie has harem. Zombie wins.

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Old 2016-03-19, 09:10   Link #49
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Oh god, Kamachi entered the web novel territory. Will he enter Visual novel territory too?
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Old 2016-03-19, 10:17   Link #50
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Arent there already 1 or 2 games? Whike not vn they still have their own plot.
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Old 2016-03-19, 11:31   Link #51
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Arent there already 1 or 2 games? Whike not vn they still have their own plot.
Well, yeah...

Anyway, about the Vampires vs Zombies, I think Zombies have a decent chance of stalemating or maybe even defeating vampires so long as the proper conditions are met.
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Old 2016-03-19, 21:49   Link #52
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I don't understand what you're talking about, guys. I don't see a single reason for vampires to win.
Zombies are usually born from necromancy. Vampires usually are high ranked necromancers. Do the math
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Old 2016-03-20, 01:27   Link #53
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I don't understand what you're talking about, guys. I don't see a single reason for vampires to win.
you are talking about tradittional ones here. Using the note on previous pages to refer for info, frankly, the Vampire weakness is too specific for the Zombie to make use, even human need quite a lot of intelligences and knowledges, strategy to even thinks of defeat a vampire, while zombie weakness is much more easier to understand, you don't need any specific tool, anything can do the job as long as you smashed their head. and traditiionaly, zombie is extremely slow/
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Old 2016-03-20, 08:06   Link #54
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Zombies are usually born from necromancy. Vampires usually are high ranked necromancers. Do the math
It was told that zombies are result of virus, your argument invalid.

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you are talking about tradittional ones here. Using the note on previous pages to refer for info, frankly, the Vampire weakness is too specific for the Zombie to make use, even human need quite a lot of intelligences and knowledges, strategy to even thinks of defeat a vampire, while zombie weakness is much more easier to understand, you don't need any specific tool, anything can do the job as long as you smashed their head. and traditiionaly, zombie is extremely slow/
What powerlevels have anything to do with winning conditions? Japan is overpopulated as f*ck in urban areas and Japanese people nowadays have little to no sense of danger. In the end what matters is how easy it is for zombies to massproduce and they can have massive boost at the start that will allow them to grow in geometric progression. Don't start talking about army and police: their police have very very very limited weaponry and they have something like 300k people, so yeah, they won't matter; same goes for their "army" that is no more than 250k people including non-combat staff (1 soldier to 600 people... good luck with that). I imagine that by the time Japan will be able to forge resistance with vampires it will be clear victory for zombies, coz there'll be not enough humans for vampires to turn for a draw at least.
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Old 2016-03-20, 08:37   Link #55
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^ That is considering that the zombies had enough time to mass produce themselves. Having no sanse of danger does not mean they won't run and hide which makes creating new zombies quite difficult. If in the meantime police holds them back and army arrives.. by-by zombies. This depends on how combat ready the army is, if they are capable of mobilizing a sizable force in 1-2 days the zombies have no chance.

250k army is more than enough to annihilate one fully infected city (10k-1M) anyway.
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Old 2016-03-20, 09:33   Link #56
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It was told that zombies are result of virus, your argument invalid.



What powerlevels have anything to do with winning conditions? Japan is overpopulated as f*ck in urban areas and Japanese people nowadays have little to no sense of danger. In the end what matters is how easy it is for zombies to massproduce and they can have massive boost at the start that will allow them to grow in geometric progression. Don't start talking about army and police: their police have very very very limited weaponry and they have something like 300k people, so yeah, they won't matter; same goes for their "army" that is no more than 250k people including non-combat staff (1 soldier to 600 people... good luck with that). I imagine that by the time Japan will be able to forge resistance with vampires it will be clear victory for zombies, coz there'll be not enough humans for vampires to turn for a draw at least.
You are greatly underestimates human reation and adaptions ability, especially Japan, in Japan, it actually rather norm to have many shelter and training to prepare for earthquake, i would give it atmost a week before the army completely quatantined the area of infection and another week for complete extermination
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Old 2016-03-20, 10:27   Link #57
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^ That is considering that the zombies had enough time to mass produce themselves. Having no sanse of danger does not mean they won't run and hide which makes creating new zombies quite difficult. If in the meantime police holds them back and army arrives.. by-by zombies. This depends on how combat ready the army is, if they are capable of mobilizing a sizable force in 1-2 days the zombies have no chance.

250k army is more than enough to annihilate one fully infected city (10k-1M) anyway.
Actually they won't run. I'm quite confident in it.

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You are greatly underestimates human reation and adaptions ability, especially Japan, in Japan, it actually rather norm to have many shelter and training to prepare for earthquake, i would give it atmost a week before the army completely quatantined the area of infection and another week for complete extermination
Dunno guys. I look down on JSDF and Japanese self-awareness a lot. Maybe I'm a little biased about it due to reading a lot of LNs/WNs that shows only spineless Japanese, but I actually read tons of articles about different countries self-defence forces and based on them can rate JSDF "better than nothing" at best.

Also regarding "adaptiveness" of Japanese people. They just like to suffer. Suffer a lot and for no reason. And I don't know why. Can write article about it, but don't have time.
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Old 2016-03-20, 11:40   Link #58
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Actually they won't run. I'm quite confident in it.
Chances are high they will once they understand that it is for real. A few of them might get taken down before that, but most will either hide semowhere (drunkards bothering everyone around, lets get out of there) or run away.

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Dunno guys. I look down on JSDF and Japanese self-awareness a lot. Maybe I'm a little biased about it due to reading a lot of LNs/WNs that shows only spineless Japanese, but I actually read tons of articles about different countries self-defence forces and based on them can rate JSDF "better than nothing" at best.

Also regarding "adaptiveness" of Japanese people. They just like to suffer. Suffer a lot and for no reason. And I don't know why. Can write article about it, but don't have time.
While JSDF might be not the most well combat proven army and probably hardly strong enough to fight for exapmle China alone, we are not speaking about fighting a well trained and armed army, we are speaking about fighting a bunch of zombies uncapable of properly using even small arms (even if the intellect stayd the same most of the zombies will come from civilians), not even speaking of procuring them. Even if the army was too weak for city warfare, all they have to do is surround the city, mow down anything that comes out with machineguns and then just bomb the zombies out of ths world (or wait till they rot).
The zombies most likely can't even drive a car, thus they have no chance to travers long distances in open terrain... "alive" at least.
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Old 2016-03-20, 12:29   Link #59
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Chances are high they will once they understand that it is for real. A few of them might get taken down before that, but most will either hide semowhere (drunkards bothering everyone around, lets get out of there) or run away.



While JSDF might be not the most well combat proven army and probably hardly strong enough to fight for exapmle China alone, we are not speaking about fighting a well trained and armed army, we are speaking about fighting a bunch of zombies uncapable of properly using even small arms (even if the intellect stayd the same most of the zombies will come from civilians), not even speaking of procuring them. Even if the army was too weak for city warfare, all they have to do is surround the city, mow down anything that comes out with machineguns and then just bomb the zombies out of ths world (or wait till they rot).
The zombies most likely can't even drive a car, thus they have no chance to travers long distances in open terrain... "alive" at least.
Mother of god, you're mistaking Japan with some middle east country. Reaction time in modern Japan will be slow, as army is very restricted and can't act as they see fit.
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