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Myssa Rei · 2013-08-20, 22:42

Yeah, caught up as well, and it's definitely an unexpected turn. Also Rosen is THAT guy? What?

As for Megu, well, do recall that this is a girl that seriously wants to die -- it's why she made a contract with Suigintou to begin with. If Kiraikishou promised her something similar, I can see her playing along.

Myssa Rei · 2013-08-25, 19:13

Oh hey, 3 manga chapters scanned and uploaded in a burst.

Oh unwound Jun, blushing at the childhood friend you never bothered keeping in touch with in your world? Think of Saitou!

So, is this a confirmation that the kid is Rozen? Or yet another "puppet" being used by Kirakishou?

aeriolewinters · 2013-08-25, 23:04

Myssa, the popular theory around Toriumi is that he's somewhat like Eriol from Card Captor Sakura, which means Jun might be equivalent to Fujitaka, if we continue the parallelism.

mitsuganae · 2013-08-26, 11:14

Am I the only one who thinks that unwound Jun (adult) ogling Tomoe (minor) is a bit creepy?

Tomoe can certainly use quite a bit of fleshing out/development (a little of which happens in phase 22, to good effect) -- not being ogled!

Myssa Rei · 2013-08-26, 21:26

Well, Not-Wound Jun was feeling weird about it. Not surprising, as as far as he was concerned, he hasn't seen Tomoe in YEARS.

Ancient Death · 2013-08-27, 16:03

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Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

Well, Not-Wound Jun was feeling weird about it. Not surprising, as as far as he was concerned, he hasn't seen Tomoe in YEARS.

Exactly.

Beacuse Jun chose to not wind, this changed the path of the future. In other words, Jun and Tomoe did not get close as friends due to Jun's status. They grow apart from at that point. So yea, it would feel weird to see her again after all those years.

mitsuganae · 2013-08-27, 16:23

Well, that settles it. I *am* indeed the only one who finds adults who ogle minors creepy. Figures.

B2-Lancer · 2013-09-09, 15:47

Greetings!

Yes, it sounds like an off the top topic question, but there are shadow similarities with Rozen Maidens and the scifi flick "Small Soliders" that bears some speculation. It doesn't mean RM's a direct rip at all, still I can't help thinking that this much earlier film hadn't at least seeded the power doll concept in the Rozen author's head that made a bold breakthru in dolls having pop male following.

You have a group of dolls battling between themselves with powerful magic or technology out of all proportion to their size; grabbing another's batteries or "life force" to continue on, one side with hopes of reaching an idyllic place before being destroyed; having assorted lovable, ruthless, tender, quirky and reluctant personalities beneath their programmed urge to fight; ball-joints mentions and toilet jokes; doll self-sacrifice and broken dolls; complex side human character intrigues, and, not to be underestimated, in the late nineties to early 2000's, "Solider" character Tommy Lee Jones was a very popular American Actor in Japan; he even pops up next to Konata in "Lucky Star"! (I also sense there're sly homages to Small Soldiers planted around RM which requires a re-check of the uncut movie.) There might have been living dolls in anime long before this, but I doubt they accomplished the same popularity as Rozen Maiden has, sharing the same psyche and adventure elements with Small Soldiers.

Again this notion isn't meant to provoke, just speculate, but one sci-fi fantasy of mine is seeing a kind of live-action "Small Soliders" version of Rozen Maidens without the magic but keeping the same doll personalities in place. The awe of that to me is one day technology really will be advanced enough for you to have a "real live"" Suiseiseki in your room! Next best thing to her magically turning into a real babe!

Myssa Rei · 2013-09-09, 22:59

Kind of doubtful, especially given the context involved in both series. And yes, that was very off-topic, and could be seen as trying to provoke a response. Next!

B2-Lancer · 2013-09-10, 07:56

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Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

Kind of doubtful, especially given the context involved in both series. And yes, that was very off-topic, and could be seen as trying to provoke a response. Next!

If it's in relation to or an idea regarding the series how's it "very off" topic? Suppose to have unfettered open minds and views on forums as these, be they series jokes or witticisms or speculations, aren't we? Different POVs is what makes progressive thought and forums click.

Myssa Rei · 2013-09-10, 21:31

Discussion is fine, but this thread is about the Rozen Maiden manga, specifically Tales, as it's been a LONG time since translations for it appeared again. Comparing it to another show, nevermind a movie, is for general series discussion, meaning not here.

Now if you're going to talk about the recent developments (aka, Rozen, the revelation of who he MIGHT be at present, and Kirakishou's new body under construction), well...

Myssa Rei · 2013-10-08, 05:51

Oh hey, that was quick. Two chapter updates. Aren't we close to catching up?

And oh wow, Shinku was forced to leave behind Suiseiseki... And she's hurting as a result. That said, she finally gives insight into "her" way of playing the Alice Game, and it's an interesting look at how she sees her relationships with all the masters she's had up to this point. It's an interesting counterpoint to Kanaria, who while she loves her master still also considers the Alice Game deathmatch a higher priority.

And now Wound!Jun is free. Thing is, what will he, Tomoe, and Unwound!Jun do now? And what the heck is the significance of Jun's changed ring?

mitsuganae · 2013-10-17, 10:13

On chapter 93.5 (Tale 49.5?): so painfully pointless, IMNSHO.

Ancient Death · 2013-11-24, 22:11

I'm putting this link here since it's related to the manga series.
Brace yourselves.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...-in-3-chapters
(2 chapters left now)

Uberchu · 2013-11-25, 02:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ancient Death

I'm putting this link here since it's related to the manga series.
Brace yourselves.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...-in-3-chapters
(2 chapters left now)

The ending is going to be terrible, that's for sure. 2 chapters to wrap everything up? Bullshit, I blame the producers for axing manga just because it's not as profitable anymore.

sky black swordman · 2013-11-25, 19:12

^ I agree. The ending is not going to be pretty.
I need to prepare for the worst.

mitsuganae · 2013-11-26, 08:05

I was under the impression that the scanslations in circulation haven't caught up yet. Wikipedia says that vol. 9 (which includes the latest scanslation, Tale 53/Chapter 97) was published this past July, so there's probably enough room for a proper ending, hopefully.

Myssa Rei · 2014-01-21, 19:38

Welll damn. It looks like Megu is willingly giving her body to Kiraishishou to become her body, just to spite Suigintou. That's twisted, right there.

silvercover · 2014-04-26, 09:21

well, you really get to feel their pain now with the backstory. plus its really quite bittersweet seeing how they were really close back then compared to how they were at the start of the series.

Honoakari · 2014-07-09, 05:49

Late to the party.

Spoiler for Final Chapters:

There's enough material now for a new anime season... assuming there'll be one.

2013-08-20, 22:42	Link #521
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	Yeah, caught up as well, and it's definitely an unexpected turn. Also Rosen is THAT guy? What? As for Megu, well, do recall that this is a girl that seriously wants to die -- it's why she made a contract with Suigintou to begin with. If Kiraikishou promised her something similar, I can see her playing along. __________________

2013-08-25, 19:13	Link #522
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	Oh hey, 3 manga chapters scanned and uploaded in a burst. Oh unwound Jun, blushing at the childhood friend you never bothered keeping in touch with in your world? Think of Saitou! So, is this a confirmation that the kid is Rozen? Or yet another "puppet" being used by Kirakishou? __________________

2013-08-25, 23:04	Link #523
aeriolewinters Photomancy Experiments Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Balanga City, Bataan, Philippines	Myssa, the popular theory around Toriumi is that he's somewhat like Eriol from Card Captor Sakura, which means Jun might be equivalent to Fujitaka, if we continue the parallelism. __________________

2013-08-26, 21:26	Link #525
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	Well, Not-Wound Jun *was* feeling weird about it. Not surprising, as as far as he was concerned, he hasn't seen Tomoe in YEARS. __________________

2013-09-09, 15:47	Link #528
B2-Lancer Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008	Was Rozen Maiden Inspired By "Small Soldiers"? Greetings! Yes, it sounds like an off the top topic question, but there are shadow similarities with Rozen Maidens and the scifi flick "Small Soliders" that bears some speculation. It doesn't mean RM's a direct rip at all, still I can't help thinking that this much earlier film hadn't at least seeded the power doll concept in the Rozen author's head that made a bold breakthru in dolls having pop male following. You have a group of dolls battling between themselves with powerful magic or technology out of all proportion to their size; grabbing another's batteries or "life force" to continue on, one side with hopes of reaching an idyllic place before being destroyed; having assorted lovable, ruthless, tender, quirky and reluctant personalities beneath their programmed urge to fight; ball-joints mentions and toilet jokes; doll self-sacrifice and broken dolls; complex side human character intrigues, and, not to be underestimated, in the late nineties to early 2000's, "Solider" character Tommy Lee Jones was a very popular American Actor in Japan; he even pops up next to Konata in "Lucky Star"! (I also sense there're sly homages to Small Soldiers planted around RM which requires a re-check of the uncut movie.) There might have been living dolls in anime long before this, but I doubt they accomplished the same popularity as Rozen Maiden has, sharing the same psyche and adventure elements with Small Soldiers. Again this notion isn't meant to provoke, just speculate, but one sci-fi fantasy of mine is seeing a kind of live-action "Small Soliders" version of Rozen Maidens without the magic but keeping the same doll personalities in place. The awe of that to me is one day technology really will be advanced enough for you to have a "real live"" Suiseiseki in your room! Next best thing to her magically turning into a real babe!

2013-08-26, 11:14	Link #524
mitsuganae Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009	Am I the only one who thinks that unwound Jun (adult) ogling Tomoe (minor) is a bit creepy? Tomoe can certainly use quite a bit of fleshing out/development (a little of which happens in phase 22, to good effect) -- not being ogled!

2013-08-27, 16:23	Link #527
mitsuganae Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009	Well, that settles it. I am indeed the only one who finds adults who ogle minors creepy. Figures.

2013-09-09, 22:59	Link #529
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	Kind of doubtful, especially given the context involved in both series. And yes, that was very off-topic, and could be seen as trying to provoke a response. Next! __________________

2013-09-10, 21:31	Link #531
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	Discussion is fine, but this thread is about the Rozen Maiden *manga*, specifically Tales, as it's been a LONG time since translations for it appeared again. Comparing it to another show, nevermind a movie, is for general series discussion, meaning not here. Now if you're going to talk about the recent developments (aka, Rozen, the revelation of who he MIGHT be at present, and Kirakishou's new body under construction), well... __________________

2013-10-08, 05:51	Link #532
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	Oh hey, that was quick. Two chapter updates. Aren't we close to catching up? And oh wow, Shinku was forced to leave behind Suiseiseki... And she's hurting as a result. That said, she finally gives insight into "her" way of playing the Alice Game, and it's an interesting look at how she sees her relationships with all the masters she's had up to this point. It's an interesting counterpoint to Kanaria, who while she loves her master still also considers the Alice Game deathmatch a higher priority. And now Wound!Jun is free. Thing is, what will he, Tomoe, and Unwound!Jun do now? And what the heck is the significance of Jun's changed ring? __________________

2013-10-17, 10:13	Link #533
mitsuganae Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009	On chapter 93.5 (Tale 49.5?): so painfully pointless, IMNSHO.

2013-11-24, 22:11	Link #534
Ancient Death Lonely without Suigintou Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: in the Endless Forest.	I'm putting this link here since it's related to the manga series. Brace yourselves. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...-in-3-chapters (2 chapters left now) __________________ ALL THAT LIVES MUST FACE DEATH! I SHALL BRING YOU PEACE! -Evangeline A.K. McDowell

2013-11-25, 19:12	Link #536
sky black swordman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: California	^ I agree. The ending is not going to be pretty. I need to prepare for the worst. __________________

2013-11-26, 08:05	Link #537
mitsuganae Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009	I was under the impression that the scanslations in circulation haven't caught up yet. Wikipedia says that vol. 9 (which includes the latest scanslation, Tale 53/Chapter 97) was published this past July, so there's probably enough room for a proper ending, hopefully.

2014-01-21, 19:38	Link #538
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	Welll damn. It looks like Megu is willingly giving her body to Kiraishishou to become her body, *just to spite Suigintou*. That's twisted, right there. __________________

2014-04-26, 09:21	Link #539
silvercover Romance Expert Join Date: Feb 2012	well, you really get to feel their pain now with the backstory. plus its really quite bittersweet seeing how they were really close back then compared to how they were at the start of the series. __________________ my fanfics: Refractions (madoka magica) Reversed Connections (BRS) could only keep it this big

2014-07-09, 05:49	Link #540
Honoakari Lurking Member Join Date: Feb 2009	Late to the party. Spoiler for Final Chapters: Megu reconciles with Suigintou but dies. Shinku uses the power of friendship and gathers all the Rosa Mystica, thus becoming Alice. Shinku then wishes for the other dolls to be revived, but because of this she ends up losing even her own Rosa Mystica. The manga then ends with Jun going on a journey with the other 6 dolls (including Kirakishou) to obtain a new Rosa Mystica and reawaken Shinku. A semi-happy ending, I guess... There's enough material now for a new anime season... assuming there'll be one. __________________ ---