Tales of the Abyss generic anime discussion

[demon_god04]

Originally Posted by yozaku

Spoiler for age in game:

well Luke is the youngest there

I am forcefully forgetting things in the game that have not been shown in the anime yet when discussing things in this thread. You just spoiled a good deal right there and not just about age.

[kujoe]

Originally Posted by demon_god04

It is funny how Tear is like looking after them but she is actually the second youngest character there even if she does not act like it most of the time.

Tear is 16, Luke is supposed to be 18 I believe, and Natalia is 19. Jade is in his thirties and Guy is in his middle to late twenties while Anise is around 12 to 14, I can't remember.

Tear is the second youngest in the party with her being 16 years old. Luke is 17, while Natalia is 18. Guy is 21 and Jade is 35. Anise, the youngest is 13 years old.

Ion on the other hand, is just 14 years old. Not bad for a leader occupying the highest position in his religious order.

[Silaqui]

While I was watching episode 7, I hoped all the time, that someone would just kick Luke in his face!

[demon_god04]

Originally Posted by kujoe

Tear is the second youngest in the party with her being 16 years old. Luke is 17, while Natalia is 18. Guy is 21 and Jade is 35. Anise, the youngest is 13 years old.

Ion on the other hand, is just 14 years old. Not bad for a leader occupying the highest position in his religious order.

The only age I remember for certain was Tear's, but I thought that Natalia was supposed to be 19 and I know that Luke was one year younger then Natalia.

edit:

Actually yeah because Luke was born in ND 2000 and the expedition to Akzeriuth takes place in ND 2018 so Luke should be 18 years old.

[Darkurai]

Luke's age is listed as 17. It is possible that the game begins before his seventeenth birthday.

I also recall (in the game, perhaps not the anime) that Duke Fabre mentioned it would be three years before he could leave the manor when he came of age. If I'm remembering correctly, "of age" in Tales of the Abyss is 20.

[Bobu44]

Where did all these ages come from ?

Character profiles?

Oh Demon_god, you'd have to really know what you're looking at to be spoiled by Yozora's post.

[yozaku]

Originally Posted by demon_god04

I am forcefully forgetting things in the game that have not been shown in the anime yet when discussing things in this thread. You just spoiled a good deal right there and not just about age.

Oh well im sorry looks like Im messed up there

[kujoe]

Originally Posted by demon_god04

The only age I remember for certain was Tear's, but I thought that Natalia was supposed to be 19 and I know that Luke was one year younger then Natalia.

edit:

Actually yeah because Luke was born in ND 2000 and the expedition to Akzeriuth takes place in ND 2018 so Luke should be 18 years old.

Nope. Darkurai's post explains further.

Originally Posted by Darkurai

Luke's age is listed as 17. It is possible that the game begins before his seventeenth birthday.

I also recall (in the game, perhaps not the anime) that Duke Fabre mentioned it would be three years before he could leave the manor when he came of age. If I'm remembering correctly, "of age" in Tales of the Abyss is 20.

That is correct. The story begins when he is 17 years old.

All their ages are listed in their character profiles in the official homepage of the game.

[Shiroth]

I can understand why Luke is acting the way he is, and it's only going to crush him come next week going by the preview. It'll be ;__; to watch.

Am wondering how Largo knows Natalia.

[rose-wisteria]

Originally Posted by kujoe

Tear is the second youngest in the party with her being 16 years old. Luke is 17, while Natalia is 18. Guy is 21 and Jade is 35. Anise, the youngest is 13 years old.

Ion on the other hand, is just 14 years old. Not bad for a leader occupying the highest position in his religious order.

The reason why I hate Tear's English VA so much. She's one of the more younger members of the party but the English VA makes her sound so old. Thank you Yukana for doing a great job.

As for the episode, a ton of foreshadowing and a ton of building up. There are a lot of subtle hints most gamers will get and some that will leave the anime-watchers only, guessing. Another build-up episode. I can't wait until they get to the good stuff. As for Luke this episode, I want to kick him off the cliff but then the show would come to an end.

Because this is a must for me, Guy saves Natalia for one scene. It doesn't take much to satisfy me. XD However, the episode itself, I didn't like as much as the others. I have to admit the battle scene is pretty good compared to the ones we have so far though.

[FlareKnight]

On a note I do hope people will be a bit more careful with the spoilers. I've played the game so I know it, but a bit more caution could be a good thing overall here. Do know how tricky it is to talk without giving too much away though. Tough tightrope to talk that's for sure.

Anyways the episode was pretty good. Handled the fight well for how much time they had. Obviously a lot shorter than the boss fight vs the monster in the last episode . Guy gets into some serious trouble with the curse slot though only lead to a shove on Luke and frankly I'm all for that.

Natalia pretty popular right now though. Getting saved by Tear, plus having Asch and Largo mention her. Though admit it was Asch curious about Largo's connection to Natalia. Clearly some interesting histories with the God Generals. Can't wait until the series starts opening those up a bit.

Probably one of the best moments is pissed off Jade. The guy is always so in control but really snapped at the end here. Luke's tantrum was far less interesting and honestly him falling off a cliff at this point wouldn't bother me. Forgot how annoying he can get.

[Freya]

What time/day does Abyss air?

[ElvenPath]

As mentioned earlier on, the show started on a friday, but the latest episodes now air on saturday nights after midnight at 1:55am, japanese time (UTC +9).

[Bobu44]

The latest episodes air at 2am on the Saturday night (well 2am Sunday morning technically), the Friday broadcast is an episode behind because they didn't do the double episode premier like everyone else. (UTC +9 Japan time).

[NoLongerSane]

Just a curious question, but is Pizza Hut still sponsering the anime. As for the age thing, for a 16 year old, Tear does have a well developed body. In all honesty, it is very hard not to let an initial spoiler loose due to playing the game. I am just wondering how the writers are going to handle some of the more emotional scenes that are coming in upcoming episodes.

[Peanutbutter]

Spoiler for Ep 7:

For someone who has played through the game, they really captured the mood and atmosphere in this episode very well.

Luke being a total ass was really well-done. They do seem to hint quite a few things that were, it seems to me, pretty obvious.

Thumbs up to a pissed off Jade, which further added to what the story is leading to thus far.

Next episode, shit happens. Looking forward to it. Hope to see:

Spoiler for In game, hopefully Ep 8 or 9:

The boy who sank into the Abyss and the party who had to see him sank and couldn't do anything about it. That really was the moment that showed the consequences of Luke's actions.

Hope to hear comments from people who haven't played the game about their feelings regarding Ep 7.

[yolin.shana]

Luke was being annoyingly bratty, but the party didn't really do anything to help either.
I'd be pissed off too if everyone just left just after a conversation where I didn't understand a thing xD
I'm kinda disappointed in Guy, I thought he at least would try to calm him down and explain calmly why he's annoying everyone (as opposed to just yelling at him that he's stupid/childish, which is true, but just makes things worse *looking at you, Anise and Tear*). He's been with him for like, forever, he should know what happens when you leave him on his own...

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by yolin.shana

Luke was being annoyingly bratty, but the party didn't really do anything to help either.
I'd be pissed off too if everyone just left just after a conversation where I didn't understand a thing xD
I'm kinda disappointed in Guy, I thought he at least would try to calm him down and explain calmly why he's annoying everyone (as opposed to just yelling at him that he's stupid/childish, which is true, but just makes things worse *looking at you, Anise and Tear*). He's been with him for like, forever, he should know what happens when you leave him on his own...

I could understand that if Luke was the absolute only person who didn't have a clue. I mean outside of Jade, Ion, and Legretta most of the party probably doesn't get a great deal of that conversation. But even so its only Luke who is having a tantrum about people not telling him. Mostly because of big his head has gotten from this ambassador thing and he feels its his right. Can imagine the others would like to know, but respect that they probably won't get any answers on that topic right now.

Guy knows how Luke can be, but even he has been surprised at how bad LUke is getting. Could feel that holding Luke's hand and trying to calmly talk to him will just fall on deaf ears. With how childish Luke is being not surprised with Anise and Tear. Sadly the approach of being a bit stern with him is only pushing him further into the Van corner which isn't what is needed for more growth. But in the end Luke has to look at the situation himself and show a bit of maturity. Its not looking good when a mutiny is required just to take a break for Ion's sake.

[TrueKnight]

*ehem* I'm sure some of you realized this already, but for those who hasn't, Abyss's settings borrowed heavily some element of Judaism particularly the Kabbalah.

Some examples of the Sephirot branches, not exactly a spoiler but just to be safe,

Spoiler:

- Keter - Crown - Divine Plan/ Creator/ infinite light/ Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh - I AM THAT I AM (Supreme/ Total Consciousness)
- Chokmah - Divine Reality/ revelation/ Yesh me-ayin - being from nothingness (Power of Wisdom)
- Da'at - Knowledge, the bridge between the intellect and emotion
- Binah - Understanding/ repentance/ reason (Power of Love)
- Chesed - Mercy/ Grace/ Love of (intention to emulate) God (Power of Vision)
- Gevurah - Judgment/ strength/ determination (Power of Intention)
- Tipheret - Symmetry/ balance/ compassion (Creative Power)
- Netzach - Contemplation/ Initiative/ persistence (Power of the Eternal Now)
- Hod - Surrender/ sincerity/ steadfastness (Intellectual/ Observational Power)
- Yesod - Foundation/ wholly remembering/ coherent knowledge (Power of Manifesting)
- Malkuth - Lower Crown - Kingdom/ physical presence/ vision and illusion (Power of Healing/ Accomplishment/ Level of Realization of Divine Plan)

Courtesy of wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sephirot

Seems like the referrences resembles some of the events or characteristics portrayed in the game or series.

[yolin.shana]

But Jade, Ion and Regret were talking about Luke, not the others. Which is the main reason he got so angry (and that the others didn't really care about knowing).

"Being a bit stern"? I'd say it was more lashing their irritation at him.

Now, I don't blame them at all. They were all on edge and he really was annoying, it's normal that some would snap and react that way.
The problem is that it just made things worse. He's not going to try and show maturity when, to him, it seems that everyone has ganged against him. It's only going to make him defensive, and

Spoiler for vague enough to not reveal anything but just in case...:

I think that his pathetic raction later is mainly due to the fact that he thought that everyone was against him.

In other words, they all screwed up, and all of that because Van had to plant ideas in his head ("I neeeed you~" etc ; I don't know you, but to me it's like he was trying to tell him "You can only trust me, all the other want is your power, they can't understand you" etc). Luke wasn't that bad before his conversation with him. But since then the man has been all he's had in mind -_-