Ore no Imouto (Season Two) - Episode 12 Discussion / Poll

[Kairin]

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[NoemiChan]

I hope, we could see a kissing scene..... Kirino x Kyousuke!!!!!

[Wilshere]

All girls will be present,party,sounds like fun and trouble at the same time to me. Anyway I hope this episode will be hilarious.

[Sakuratsuki]

This episode is important. Because it can tell us (a bit), what to expect in the last 3 OVA's.

[Wilshere]

Just watched the episode. Rated it 10/10 for many reasons. Didnt expect the end tho.

[Xical]

Ayase reaction to Saori is priceless.

[Kakurin]

Darn you guys, I also want to see that episode. Guess I'll have to wait a couple of minutes / hour.

[finalfury]

Well, aside from the fact that this episode had cringe-worthy moments, the ending wasn't bad. :/
Although some fans got crushed, stomped and trampled over due to this episode. :/
I like the ED tho and the ending was fairly emotional gripping for something that isn't a tragedy [i.e. death(s)].

[tommythecat]

Whole lot of passage of time going on here, really tough to pick out whats going on if you have no real sense of how the novel plays out. Other than that it was a fun episode, the party played out more naturally than it seemed to when I read that part.

So there was someone snapping shots of Ayase and that was never elaborated on... wonder if that will be dropped or resolved later.

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by tommythecat

So there was someone snapping shots of Ayase and that was never elaborated on... wonder if that will be dropped or resolved later.

I'm supposing it may be addressed on the Drama CD that will ship with this Blu-Ray volume (volume 6). (They already said that things not addressed in the anime may be covered during those.)

[ExXentriK]

The last part with Ayase was so rough. I actually expected more emotions from it. Good episode overall but to be honest I'm a bit disapointed about this...

[Dr. Casey]

I almost feel out of place here without a Kirino avatar. Six of the nine posts in this thread have one, not counting Kairin.

Time to check the episode out; though I've always enjoyed Ore no Imouto, the series has taken quite the jump in quality these past few episodes. I hope the promised discussion between Kyosuke and Kuroneko that Kuro mentioned last week takes place.

edit: Make that seven out of ten.

[Ricadan]

It definitely felt very rushed, which is understandable considering the agenda for this season. But that's seriously a whole lot of plot, emotion, and setup to fit into a 20 minute period. I felt there was almost no pause between any two characters' dialogue, and although i don't speak Japanese, it almost felt like they were speaking in a rushed manner.

Especially with Ayase's confession I could feel the rush, there was almost no time for the emotions to sink in, it was almost mechanical and systematic:
1. I hate you
2. I love you
3. I love somebody else
4. Goodbye
And this is such an important moment for Ayase-shippers considering this is how they were supposed get their closure. I felt the montage of their shared moments at the end definitely alleviated some of that.

Otherwise, there were plenty of fun and amusing moments throughout the episode, especially all the tension Kanako brought up. Overall I enjoyed the episode, but the emotional parts definitely whooshed over my head.

[Densetsuhakai]

Spoiler for Comparison to the novel:

Well,that episode was fast paced.Pretty much everything I loved about Novel 10 was cut off in this episode.It is probably a good episode for Anime-only watchers, but for Novel readers and Ayase fans it was probably horrible.The love confession from Ayase wasn't as emotional as in the Novel and I was suprised that Ayase got her answer immediately.

BTW: Something is bothering me for a while now.How could Anime-only watchers understand what's going on in the last couple of episodes? (especially the Ayase parts) I mean there was the stalker but the episode doesn't clear up the incident,so why are they giving the stalker screentime in the first place? This way it is only confusing for Anime-only watchers.

[Wilshere]

Leaving issues aside, isnt Ayase contradicting herself??? In the previous episode she said that Kuroneko cant say that she's Kirino's friend anymore because she doesnt want anyone dating her brother... and now, she confessed,like lol what the hell??? So what are you to Kirino now?!?!??! She also admitted to lying to herself but too late mate.

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by Ricadan

Especially with Ayase's confession I could feel the rush, there was almost no time for the emotions to sink in, it was almost mechanical and systematic:
1. I hate you
2. I love you
3. I love somebody else
4. Goodbye
And this is such an important moment for Ayase-shippers considering this is how they were supposed get their closure. I felt the montage of their shared moments at the end definitely alleviated some of that.

Well, part of this is also inherent to the situation itself. She just shows up unexpected a month after his exam on the day he's moving out to congratulate him and confess. They tried to use the build-up from the previous scenes to carry the momentum (along with the flash-back), but the problem is still that her confession is pretty sudden. The scene itself didn't really have a lot of emotional build-up because it was all this pent-up feelings from her end. Given that his feelings were set, he didn't have much to do except to turn her down.

Basically all this to say... to me, it honestly didn't feel like she came there that day expecting to have her feelings returned. More that she was trying to cleanly close a chapter of her life.

Originally Posted by Densetsuhakai

Spoiler for Comparison to the novel:

Well,that episode was fast paced.Pretty much everything I loved about Novel 10 was cut off in this episode.It is probably a good episode for Anime-only watchers, but for Novel readers and Ayase fans it was probably horrible.The love confession from Ayase wasn't as emotional as in the Novel and I was suprised that Ayase got her answer immediately.

BTW: Something is bothering me for a while now.How could Anime-only watchers understand what's going on in the last couple of episodes? (especially the Ayase parts) I mean there was the stalker but the episode doesn't clear up the incident,so why are they giving the stalker screentime in the first place? This way it is only confusing for Anime-only watchers.

Spoiler for Comparison to the novel:

Because it is insinuating that events happened that could not be shown due to time constraints, and that these may be covered in the Drama CDs or in the book itself.

As far as Ayase getting her answer immediately goes, the only change there is that they didn't do it via a flashback later and are keeping it chronological. He had no reason to delay his answer given that he already knew his feelings, which is as the book.

In the end, I don't think it's horrible if you know the novel, because you already know the elements that were omitted. The essential character development was still included, despite what was cut... and we basically had to expect this given that there's 4 episodes left. If you take it from an anime-only perspective, there are little elements left dangling, but the essential points are conveyed.

[tommythecat]

Originally Posted by Densetsuhakai

Spoiler for Comparison to the novel:

BTW: Something is bothering me for a while now.How could Anime-only watchers understand what's going on in the last couple of episodes? (especially the Ayase parts) I mean there was the stalker but the episode doesn't clear up the incident,so why are they giving the stalker screentime in the first place? This way it is only confusing for Anime-only watchers.

Spoiler for Comparison to the novel:

Honestly, much of this season is confusing as hell if you look at it from the perspective of an anime only viewer. I hope they address some of these issues like they did in the first season bluray like the SNS chats that weren't in the TV aired episodes to explain details that were glossed over and broke continuity or were confusing. So far there is very weak continuity in some places in the second season that is able to be easily followed with zero knowledge of the novels.

[User68604]

12/10 episode

i love everything about this show

[ArturEngel]

It maybe felt rushed, but they have just 25 min to cover everything. Don't be selfish. They try their best, i believe.

[Kakurin]

I just skipped through some scenes. It definitely feels rushed. But I laughed hard at some scenes. Like Ayase and the knife. Or Ayase's reaction to Saori.