The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya - Episode 2 Discussion / Poll [2006 TV ep. 3]

[Kamui4356]

Originally Posted by SoldierOfDarkness

Well

Spoiler:

Mikuru is from the future afterall so it's not that impossible

Spoiler:

It's also not impossible that Mikuru is... her own mother! It could also be that she should have been kyon and Haruhi's daughter, but because Mikuru went back in time, kyon falls in love with her instead, and she never existed on her native time plane! Isn't time travel great?

Seriously though, she'd probably be from too far in the future to be the daughter of any of the other characters. Great great granddaughter perhaps?

[Adigard]

Noein is currently presenting the thesis on theory #1... but since this is a light novel... I'm going to guess the author hasn't answered the question.

[Kaoru Chujo]

I just want to thank people for their disciplined use of spoiler tags. I can read the thread without worrying too much about getting spoiled by novel-readers or even speculators.

[Shirobane]

Haha, well if there's anything to be said, this is the most spoiler tags I've ever seen in an episode discussion
I congradulate you on having the discipline in not clicking the spoilers

[mr.muffin]

Originally Posted by Shirobane

Haha, well if there's anything to be said, this is the most spoiler tags I've ever seen in an episode discussion
I congradulate you on having the discipline in not clicking the spoilers

Damn! Wish I had that kind of discipline! ^^"

[Onizuka-GTO]

Originally Posted by mr.muffin

Damn! Wish I had that kind of discipline! ^^"

don't worry, you not the only one tempted by spoilers.

*clicks another spoiler button*

those whores, open for everyone. dammit.

[SoldierOfDarkness]

Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

I just want to thank people for their disciplined use of spoiler tags. I can read the thread without worrying too much about getting spoiled by novel-readers or even speculators.

Actually if you watch episode 1 and nitpick some pieces of it, the whole story is right there.

[rooboy]

Originally Posted by SoldierOfDarkness

Though is there any reason why Yuki spilled the beans in front of kyon?

Spoiler for speculation:

I believe she is recognizing Kyon as sort of an influence on Haruhi. She is trying to impress upon him how important everything is so she can later on influence him (and hopefully, through him, influence Haruhi).

[SoldierOfDarkness]

Originally Posted by melange

re: spoiler
Its highly likely someone is going to make a doujin of precisely that matter

Knowing Haruhi it'll probably be the opposite with her

Spoiler:

dominating it instead of the opposite which would be something to see Everyone would be like WTF!? Is that even possible!?

@Rooboy666

I guess so, after Kyon is pretty much the only person to actually have any conversation with Haruhi. Though I question his influence on her, if he has any.....

[Danj]

Originally Posted by melange

re: spoiler
Its highly likely someone is going to make a doujin of precisely that matter

I've only seen one Haruhi doujin so far, but it's pretty hardcore. Somebody posted it in the "H Images" section on http://www.sos-dan.com.

[rooboy]

Originally Posted by SoldierOfDarkness

I guess so, after Kyon is pretty much the only person to actually have any conversation with Haruhi. Though I question his influence on her, if he has any.....

Well, a fingernail's worth of influence seems to be more than anyone else has with her.

When you're holding onto a ledge by a tuft of grass, you don't let go and say "Oh, it's just a bit of grass", you hold on for dear life.

[Pellissier]

I rated this episode ages ago but still I haven't put up a comment. D'oh.

My rate has been a 9. Another magnificent episode of a so far magnificent series, but episode 2 had that bit more (I guess the surprise effect, combined with the - let me introduce a neologism - "Harruhicane" we got to know well there) that made it gain my 10.
The blackmailing scene was hilarious and amazing. I've watched it over and over, never getting tired of that. Not casually it inspired my avatar and signature. Haruhi's impudency is so out of the lines and so refreshing. She does the most crazy things without any mercy.
After that, the episode continued in a good way. Kyon is an *excellent* male lead, and also a great narrator. Listening to happenings from his point of view helps the viewer not to get lost, which otherwise may be easy in such a potentially wide world.
The bunny costume scene helped the fanservice (as Kyon, I just can't get enough of that ) but the episode slowed down there, and didn't go anywhere. Maybe it's the first time that an action of Haruhi doesn't lead to an immediate result/happening (put aside Mikuru - if I get ruined for marriage, will you take me? - personal tragedy. Poor thing ^^ ).
Also the final scene with Kyon and Yuki was a bit slow, and that's why I oriented myself for a 9. Even though the final revelation enhanced the suspence, indeed

Now I'm curious on how the story will proceed, if it will stay crazy, if it will actually become more serious, or.. who knows.
Will episode 4, "The boredom of Haruhi Suzumiya", make some cloud disappear? Looking forward to it.

9/10

[Maids! Maids! Maids!]

Originally Posted by Pellissier

The blackmailing scene was hilarious and amazing. I've watched it over and over, never getting tired of that. Not casually it inspired my avatar and signature. Haruhi's impudency is so out of the lines and so refreshing. She does the most crazy things without any mercy.

This is a large part of the appeal of the show for me. Haruhi is all id and seemingly unstoppable. That's framed with Kyon's wry commentary and inability to control the situation and the ruthlessly exploited, perennially weeping Mikuru.

Frankly, the only character I felt genuinely bad for was Kyon. He promised to protect Mikuru and failed miserably. During the short meeting they had outside the classroom, I felt feelings of sympathetic guilt and embarrassment. It suggested to me that the pleasures of the series will come with a price.

[Vexx]

See? Haruhiism is educational....

[Prodigious]

Originally Posted by DragoonKain3

I hate you all. :P

All this talk about time paradoxes has me not only reading a large portion of the time related articles in wiki, but also some VERY distantly related articles like evolution through sexual selection and about theories how our moon got created. >_<

Yeah, Wikipedia articles are like Pringles. They aren't the highest quality you can get, but once you start eating em you can't stop.

Anyway, I love Haruhi because she is such an incredible antihero(although I have a hunch by the end of the series she will be an admirable heroine). In many series, there are heros who break the rules and go all out in order to achieve a greater good. Haruhi is the same way except her goals are less honorable. But what's even more adorable is the fact that she doesn't even seem to be aware that there are rules. Everything she does is carried out in a nonchalant manner as if it's completely normal. For example, after the bunny costume incident, she doesn't complain about getting in trouble or seem concerned about punishment at all, she is just pissed that they couldn't finish handing out the flyers.

I think Haruhi is an adorable character. It's been said before, but it feels like she redefines the Tsundere archetype. You look at someone like Tohsaka or Shana and it's a bitch who happens to get mushy on occassion(I love them both, I'm not dissing them). Haruhi on the other hand is this crazy antisocial girl most of the time, but then other times she's this crazy charismatic person who you can't help but cheer on.

[Adigard]

Originally Posted by Prodigious

It's been said before, but it feels like she redefines the Tsundere archetype...

Haruhi on the other hand is this crazy antisocial girl most of the time, but then other times she's this crazy charismatic person who you can't help but cheer on.

But... that's not Tsundere... ^_^;; You can't really redefine the Tsundere archetype for a character that only meets half the qualifications. Although I've only seen the first 3 eps, and the small portion of the novel that has been translated. It's possible she'll get all dere in Vol 8... but that seems awfully unlikely.

Someone said it best... Haruhi is tsun, tsun, tsun with a flamethrower of joy.

[Eclipze]

Originally Posted by Maids! Maids! Maids!

Frankly, the only character I felt genuinely bad for was Kyon. He promised to protect Mikuru and failed miserably.

Well...he DID enjoy seeing her in a bunny suit. Can't say I'm sorry for a character who enjoyed his moment of failure to protect someone.

[Onizuka-GTO]

Originally Posted by Kamui4356

Of course that also means time travel would likely be completely banned even if it were possible.

Well i would too, if there were people like you wanting to go back.

Anyway........two more days for episode 04!!!


I can't wait! ARRRGGH! maybe i should do some course work? I know i got some (read: too many!) that I should of done.....dammn you haruhi....

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Originally Posted by Kamui4356

What's the point of time travel if you don't get to screw up history? I like the idea of being able to go back in time, do something minor, like eat an apple, and completely change the world. It's much more interesting that way. Of course that also means time travel would likely be completely banned even if it were possible.

Of course, since when is banning ever going to stop anyone?

Instead of committing suicide, people who believe their life isn't worth living would just get back in time and hope to scramble a new life for themselves, because they don't see what they could possibly lose.

[celcius]

Since when did banning not push people to do it the act that was banned?

Having time travel would be bad since irresponsible people would abuse it.