2014-07-08, 22:52 | Link #381 | |
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And didn't the lieutenant basically say they were hopelessly outclassed in his monologue to the doctor? Now, since he's drinking and rather depressed at the moment, we have to take it with a grain of salt. But I do think that firepower and tech wise, the Martians have a large advantage. On another note, someone made a better map that has an overlay of the world as it was pre-Heaven's Fall, versus after. I thought my city made it, but nope, completely underwater.
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2014-07-09, 00:46 | Link #382 | ||
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What's illogical here isn't why the colonists are so extreme, but how come earth didn't sent a force large enough to begin with to suppress the rebellion when it first broke out.Even if the colonists have Martian technology on their side, three years isn't enough to form a sizable, well trained, well equipped military force to resist earth nor is there enough time to convert Martian technology into feasible military use. There's also the fact that they shouldn't really have the facilities to do all of that. There's also the fact that even if there were most colonists arriving to bolster the initial 340k, there shouldn't be enough people to man up a large enough force to resist earth. Quote:
As I've mentioned, if the pretender was manipulative and intelligent enough, he could have used the rivalry between different nations as an opportunity to present himself as a supposedly neutral, competent individual that can serve all their interests. He would have been granted a lot of power in Mars to prevent one nation having too much influence in the project and in light of his supposed neutrality and competence.That's one explanation. At any rate, if there's only one communication device, or if the pretender is able to control communication, he could have told the authorities on earth that everything on Mars is fine while in fact, he's intentionally causing hardship on Mars,such as withholding supplies from the colonists, while telling the colonists that it's the governments' fault that they are having such hardship, not him. Throughout the process, he would present himself as a father figure to the colonists,striving 'actively' to solve their problems while their government has abandoned them. After a while, he could have feigned competence by using his stockpiled supplies and advanced artifacts to solve all problems,leading the colonists to 'realize' that people on earth did not deserve the artifacts and that they are scum who abandoned them. Alternative explanation would have been that all leaders who agreed to give him all these powers are utterly incompetent and poor judges of character. Last edited by Avrorrange; 2014-07-09 at 01:10. |
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Him hoarding alien tech - and mastering it - so he'd have enough of an advantage to make his rebellion stick is another. Quote:
You're also overstating the dangers. Considering how well the colonization went, as I said, they must have found a terraformation button. And widely underestimating the importance and prestige of being part of it. Yeah, I don't think they'd have problems finding plenty of volunteers. But mostly, you're underestimating governments. You think they'd leave something oversight of something like that to some intern who's only there because he's someone's secretary's nephew? That they'd let some random guy have complete control of it and never check anything? In terms of strategic importance, it makes the oil reserves of the Middle East look like a can of lighter fluid. They'd have inspectors, spies, and spies on the spies. |
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Politicians care more about votes than technological advancement due to some artifacts. In that regard, the economy, foreign affairs an domestic approval would be more important than technological finds in Mars.Some people in the government would have had some oversight of the program, but they can hardly get any dirt if they remained on earth. The earthlings would have been happy if the colonists sent artifacts down to earth periodically. If artifacts keep rolling in, they will just see it as evidence that the scientist and everyone on Mars is doing their job well. They have no reason to suspect them at all. It's dumb, but people simply just get all over their heads as long as there's some resemblance of success. Quote:
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2014-07-09, 08:48 | Link #390 |
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Information time!
Someone on the chinese board posted a summary of information obtained from the official website (there are some unlockable information in the website itself). While I can't verify the sources (I don't know how to unlock the official page's code game), the information is most probably real (with pics as well). This is my best translation. Warning. While nothing major, they might spoil your enjoyment if you intend to learn about the world itself through watching the show. Oh, contain spoilers on the Princess's assasination. Spoiler for A/Z:
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2014-07-09, 08:49 | Link #391 | |
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I'm talking the ones destroyed by the moon.
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2014-07-09, 09:52 | Link #392 | |
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What's really odd is that several mountain ranges (the Cascades, Sierra Nevada and Appalachians) are completely gone. I don't see how you could get explosions that big without destroying humanity. All I can think is that whoever redesigned the coastlines never bothered looking at a topographic map of North America. |
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2014-07-09, 10:00 | Link #393 |
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If I'm correct than the black parts are the ones that aren't underwater, then from what I see Puerto Rico lives, kinda surprised it's even in the fricking map since somehow it vanishes whenever an overview or map of the world is shown in anime.
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2014-07-09, 10:06 | Link #394 | |
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Lol how did North Korea end up the only bit of drowned land there?
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2014-07-09, 10:16 | Link #397 | ||
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Weird unknown stuff tends to carry the risk of that....
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2014-07-09, 10:17 | Link #398 | |
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Spoiler for no surprise there:
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2014-07-09, 10:26 | Link #399 | |
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Of course, that's the "official" timeline.....obviously, important things like why mad scientist went mad in two years is left out
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2014-07-09, 10:34 | Link #400 |
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Well, as the material mentioned, the Earthlings managed to cut the colonists' supply lines while at the same time killed their emperor.Meanwhile, they lost 50% of their population. On numbers alone, the damage to earthlings would have been greater, but since there's less than a million colonists, damage to Martian society would have been pretty catastrophic.
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