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Old 2010-07-01, 11:36   Link #1
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Claymore Chapter 105

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Old 2010-07-01, 11:42   Link #2
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Moving spoilers from 104 thread to 105 thread

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Damn seems to be tons of important dialog in this chapter... How long until the English Scan?

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Old 2010-07-01, 11:43   Link #3
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Honestly, I'm beginning to share MisterJB's belief that that the one on the far left is Ophelia. It does look like her in her Awakened form.

I think; all 3 of them, are ones who wanted to have revenge on Priscilla: Teresa never had those feelings for her, so it make sense she isn't there.

All three of them look like they are trying to scare her.
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Honestly, I'm beginning to share MisterJB's belief that that the one on the far left is Ophelia. It does look like her in her Awakened form.

I think; all 3 of them, are ones who wanted to have revenge on Priscilla: Teresa never had those feelings for her, so it make sense she isn't there.

All three of them look like they are trying to scare her.
Now that is an interesting thought... I guess Irene was too scared to show up though.
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Now that is an interesting thought... I guess Irene was too scared to show up though.


Okay, crazy thought coming here, but I think the one in the middle.....is Dauf.

The face honestly has too short of hair to be anyone I can think of that would want to take revenge on Priscilla, and he honestly tried by infecting himself.
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Okay, crazy thought coming here, but I think the one in the middle.....is Dauf.

The face honestly has too short of hair to be anyone I can think of that would want to take revenge on Priscilla, and he honestly tried by infecting himself.
It's clearly a face with long hair in Teresa style. Dauf has Short hair, so it can't be him and also Clare doesn't know he's dead.
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It's clearly a face with long hair in Teresa style. Dauf has Short hair, so it can't be him and also Clare doesn't know he's dead.
The one in the middle looks bald to me...I barely see any hair on him/her at all.

(though I think I KIND OF see what you're talking about...goes against my theory though. Teresa never wanted revenge on Priscilla, and neither was it the other way around).
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The one in the middle looks bald to me...I barely see any hair on him/her at all.

(though I think I KIND OF see what you're talking about...goes against my theory though. Teresa never wanted revenge on Priscilla, and neither was it the other way around).
The fact is these aren't them... but Clare's manifestations of who she is fighting for. So Ophelia, Teresa, and Clare makes huge sense.
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The fact is these aren't them... but Clare's manifestations of who she is fighting for. So Ophelia, Teresa, and Clare makes huge sense.
Huh...well, that's an interesting theory

Except, it gives Claire too much emphasis. All three of the faces feel like they are sharing the moment, not just her and who she's fighting for.

(though Claire does have the most detail...)

It does have sense though; Teresa wouldn't want to Claire to fight for her sake, nor did she want her too: she wanted her to have a normal human life, so Teresa being there means it has to be part of Claire's doing, because Claire thinks she's doing the right thing.

She also wanted to avenge Ophelia who went insane because of her brother's death.
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Well that confirms it I pretty knew Claire was going to be absorbed into the destoryer. That destoryer is going to be pretty over the top now it's got parts of three number ones a number 2 and a number 4 if that can't put up a fight against Priscilla I don't what can.
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Well that confirms it I pretty knew Claire was going to be absorbed into the destoryer. That destoryer is going to be pretty over the top now it's got parts of three number ones a number 2 and a number 4 if that can't put up a fight against Priscilla I don't what can.
What may end up sealing the deal Newhope, is the whole "Teresa-blackbox" thing. Now, assuming their really is such a thing inside Claire......it really doesn't matter that Claire only has 1/4 of Teresa, or whether or not Teresa or Priscilla were stronger then the other...if a part of Teresa's potential combines with Raciella who has, at the very least, 2xAO...

a 2xA0 combining with a piece of the potential of a warrior, who was most likely somewhere between 3-4xAO(alongside Priscilla, who I also believes shares that power)... then yes, the likelihood of their being an equal match is now. Of course, that's IF their is such a thing within Claire, and that's a big If.

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Tracker Dietrich is a spy, no explanation on how she was able to control the Af's. For how long will she keep using the excuse that she has to pay Helen and Deneven back? She has saved 4 ghost already.
I think we were supposed to forget about that and move on, regardless of how inconsistant it is. .

Apparantely, she controlled the AE's with a piece of Riful's dress...how then, they didn't slaughter her on the spot, is beyond me. Yagi me yet though come back, and try to explain it better later on.
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Well that confirms it I pretty knew Claire was going to be absorbed into the destoryer. That destoryer is going to be pretty over the top now it's got parts of three number ones a number 2 and a number 4 if that can't put up a fight against Priscilla I don't what can.
I think about half of use believed that for almost 3 chapters now... and a few of us a few chapters before that

I know I for one have been believing Clare and Raphaela would help each other out since the first time I read ch 64. Exactly how has been ever changing so I don't recall what I believed at exactly what point. Needless to say I can't wait to see how this plays out
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I don't think Claire been just 1/4 Yoma will make much difference Teresa's genetic information will be there so I doubt it'd be that hard for the destoryer to merge it with it's own.

As for Dietrich I still think she's got her own agenda and is playing the field to keep her options open, to be honest I think shes going to be heavily involved in the DnD plot she's just had to much panel time not to be a major character now.
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Oh yeah... It's Clare, Teresa, and Ophelia (right to left)... Check out the colored page

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I find it strangely satfisying that Teresa has the smallest part of them all XDXD. You can barely tell it's her .
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How can you guys see Teresa in there? To me, it just looks like a...a face. It doesn't even have hair.
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How can you guys see Teresa in there? To me, it just looks like a...a face. It doesn't even have hair.
Roflmao, I thought it was Dauf!!! It looks bald to me.

You can, if you look at it the right way, see a very few wavy hairs....it's a BIG stretch, but I can sort of see what people are seeing .
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How can you guys see Teresa in there? To me, it just looks like a...a face. It doesn't even have hair.
It's Teresa and yes she does to have hair... I just made it easier to see...

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I find it strangely satfisying that Teresa has the smallest part of them all XDXD. You can barely tell it's her .

wouldn't be surprised if she starts growin on us ^^

damn...they ARE fast with the colorings.

looks like decent chapter, even though many predicted clare being absorbed, think yagi does not HAVE to surpise us everytime. I'm very happy with Dietrich showing some backbone And am very thankfull that yagi provided a medic for H&D
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Can't really tell with the middle one the right is definitely Claire and the left looks vaguely like Ophelia but it's not clear enough to be certain.
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