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kuroishinigami · 2009-08-22, 10:00

Yea me too. I'm waiting for the translation to finish before playing this. I'm really interested in this VN from reading the review ^^

Yoshiki · 2009-10-15, 23:42

Well, it turned out to be as enjoyable as any V/N could get, but seriously, this thing just drowns in it's plot holes. The worst was probably Kyousuke "transforming" into Maou while kanon's taking a shower. There had to be a better way to execute the Maou-kyousuke-kyouhei combination paradox.

Also what I disliked was kyousuke's uselessness beyond being the Yakuza's control tower for Haru. They should have given him a personality, and the scene where he finally gains vision was just way too funny to be dramatic.

And the last scene, I wished they'd shown Haru, it was very dramatic and tear jerking and all but I really, really wanted to actually see her.

If anyone's here to see if this game's of any worth to play, hurry up and get it, it definitely is. Just don't play through any of the sub-routes, there's some mixed thoughts on it but everyone agrees that it pales in comparison to the main plot, so you may as well just play that and use the time you could be playing the sub routes instead for playing a entirely different game.

Syntron · 2010-12-25, 15:09

Merry Christmas!

Jze0 · 2010-12-25, 17:33

Glad to hear the first patch is finally released. I've been waiting for this one for a while... now time to just sit back, install, and play.

Reckoner · 2011-01-01, 15:27

I managed to finish this nice little VN.

The protagonist wasn't as sweet as the one in Sharin no Kuni Himawari no Shoujo, but that's OK, he was still plenty good.

Spoiler for About Maou:

The scene at the end of Haru's route was also quite a tear jerker. Our main character obviously can't catch a break in life.

In the end though, Kanon's route/chapter for the most part was quite a bore to me, and Shiratori's chapter/route was very funny, but ended up making Kyousuke more like a background character than anything. So I would say the two best routes were Haru in first place, with Tsubaki following afterwards.

At the very least, I think he was happiest in the end of Tsubaki's route.

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Anyhow an interesting question for you all. Is Maou right in saying that their father did nothing wrong and didn't deserve to be locked up. Discuss

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ramengud · 2011-01-01, 21:26

This definitely was one hell of a roller coaster ride. My only gripe with this was that the other routes weren't really that good. But it was all made up for by Haru's route. It was like the whole game was only about Haru and the that rest were just extras. Too bad there wasn't a Yuki route.

Well this VN has one of the most awesome endings I can remember. Basically the epilogue made this game one of my all time favorites.

zodanhko · 2011-01-01, 21:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshiki

And the last scene, I wished they'd shown Haru, it was very dramatic and tear jerking and all but I really, really wanted to actually see her.

My sentiment is exactly the same. It's really a shame that Haru was not shown.

Wrath88 · 2011-01-02, 08:11

Time to slowly work on getting this.

alpha69 · 2011-01-03, 09:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reckoner

At the very least, I think he was happiest in the end of Tsubaki's route.

Though I loved Haru's route more and that epilogue made me look up on how much of a man Kyousuke is while shedding manly tears, I do believe that Kyousuke had a better ending in Tsubaki's route... I mean...

Spoiler for End of tsubaki's route:

So yeah, I think Kyousuke had a better ending with Tsubaki.

Hooves · 2011-01-03, 13:13

Hmmm, just got to chapter 3 (which I suppose is Kanon's possible route if I chose her because of the evidence of all this talk about sports, and how "Maou" will not target Kanon) I actually like this game, although its very straight-forward with the choices that make it a little simple on what effect they might have.

Before the Opening showed, I had a clear deduction that Kyousuke was "Maou" when he knew about Haru's proclaimed name "Hero" and the fact that she even went with Kyousuke in the (was it a bar or restaurant?) and then decided to use that place for his little chase game with her. But still... That is still up to debate on if this is true or not.

Mostly throughout this game so far, I was able to see the plot twists that this game provides, I don't know if these twists are very easy to spot, or that I'm just very observant, but reading through the text does make things more complicated when I 5% of the time don't have a clear hint out of the sky on what they are talking about. It does make deductions very simple when Haru is on the screen with her intelligence

So far, I'm loving this game and just hope to finish this.

**Klashikari** · 2011-01-03, 16:13

The plot twists you are talking about are not even "twists", as they were situations that didn't have the pretention of being twists.
The real stuff start with chapter 4 and the last one, although the "biggest twist" is quite debatable.

Hooves · 2011-01-03, 16:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klashikari

The plot twists you are talking about are not even "twists", as they were situations that didn't have the pretention of being twists.
The real stuff start with chapter 4 and the last one, although the "biggest twist" is quite debatable.

That is true, due to the straight-forwardness that is currently going on, I don't really see them as a twist. Guess I have to go even further in order to get to where the plots actually make a real "twist"

minhgurluver · 2011-01-03, 22:58

I just finish the game, but there's still one question.

Spoiler for Last scene:

Reckoner · 2011-01-03, 23:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by minhgurluver

I just finish the game, but there's still one question.

Spoiler for Last scene:

Spoiler:

Nihokon · 2011-01-04, 08:34

Now that I've finished the game, I have a question...

Spoiler for About Maou:

alpha69 · 2011-01-04, 09:01

this is just my theory but maybe...

Spoiler for maou:

minhgurluver · 2011-01-05, 04:46

this may be a bit off-track but has anyone listened to the 2 Drama CDs? The setting is during the huge time gap in the epilogue. I wonder if there is a third one because the second cd is not conclusive at all

Hooves · 2011-01-05, 17:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by minhgurluver

this may be a bit off-track but has anyone listened to the 2 Drama CDs? The setting is during the huge time gap in the epilogue. I wonder if there is a third one because the second cd is not conclusive at all

I'm completely at lost from what you are saying

alpha69 · 2011-01-05, 23:22

perhaps he is talking about the

Spoiler for CHapter 5 ending:

that's probably what he meant by "huge time gap in the epilogue"

OceanBlue · 2011-01-08, 01:50

This was an awesome game. A bit sad at the ending though, if only because

Spoiler for Ending:

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Klashikari 阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv180 Graphic Designer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Belgium, Brussels Age: 37	The plot twists you are talking about are not even "twists", as they were situations that didn't have the pretention of being twists. The real stuff start with chapter 4 and the last one, although the "biggest twist" is quite debatable. __________________ [Sig art: Kagura Yuu, Nunukko, Maku Rako & Mishima Kurone] / [Twitter]

2011-01-03, 22:58	Link #53
minhgurluver Visual Novels Reader Join Date: Jan 2007	I just finish the game, but there's still one question. Spoiler for Last scene: Does the game or any extra material (interview, drama CD) reveal the name of Haru nad Kyousuke's daughter. I kinda feel like it would sound really profound.

2009-08-22, 10:00	Link #41
kuroishinigami Ava courtesy of patchy Join Date: Jan 2009	Yea me too. I'm waiting for the translation to finish before playing this. I'm really interested in this VN from reading the review ^^

2009-10-15, 23:42	Link #42
Yoshiki Rophel Ninja Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Denver	Well, it turned out to be as enjoyable as any V/N could get, but seriously, this thing just drowns in it's plot holes. The worst was probably Kyousuke "transforming" into Maou while kanon's taking a shower. There had to be a better way to execute the Maou-kyousuke-kyouhei combination paradox. Also what I disliked was kyousuke's uselessness beyond being the Yakuza's control tower for Haru. They should have given him a personality, and the scene where he finally gains vision was just way too funny to be dramatic. And the last scene, I wished they'd shown Haru, it was very dramatic and tear jerking and all but I really, really wanted to actually see her. If anyone's here to see if this game's of any worth to play, hurry up and get it, it definitely is. Just don't play through any of the sub-routes, there's some mixed thoughts on it but everyone agrees that it pales in comparison to the main plot, so you may as well just play that and use the time you could be playing the sub routes instead for playing a entirely different game.

2011-01-01, 21:26	Link #46
ramengud Member Join Date: May 2010	This definitely was one hell of a roller coaster ride. My only gripe with this was that the other routes weren't really that good. But it was all made up for by Haru's route. It was like the whole game was only about Haru and the that rest were just extras. Too bad there wasn't a Yuki route. Well this VN has one of the most awesome endings I can remember. Basically the epilogue made this game one of my all time favorites.

2011-01-04, 08:34	Link #55
Nihokon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010	Now that I've finished the game, I have a question... Spoiler for About Maou: In the first 4 chapters, why did he abandon his revenge plan for Usami and Gonzou? and his goal to release his father from Jail?

2011-01-04, 09:01	Link #56
alpha69 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pinas	this is just my theory but maybe... Spoiler for maou: Maou's grand plan was completely derailed when Kyousuke chose to be with another girl beside Usami, so he needed to revise his plans, and it ended up no longer involving Kyousuke, it was no longer showed if Maou ever executed his plan again or when he executes it again. Though in Kanon's route Maou was made to look like he gave up on his plan because he's in love now, we were assumed he's Maou, but perhaps it was just him playing with words and that meant that his plan has been derailed because his pawn Kyousuke didn't go the way he expected him to go, and his plan needed revision so he needed to back away from the Souwa(I'm not sure about the name lol) corporation for a while. __________________

2011-01-05, 04:46	Link #57
minhgurluver Visual Novels Reader Join Date: Jan 2007	this may be a bit off-track but has anyone listened to the 2 Drama CDs? The setting is during the huge time gap in the epilogue. I wonder if there is a third one because the second cd is not conclusive at all

2011-01-05, 23:22	Link #59
alpha69 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pinas	perhaps he is talking about the Spoiler for CHapter 5 ending: 8 years where Kyousuke was in prison that's probably what he meant by "huge time gap in the epilogue" __________________

2011-01-08, 01:50	Link #60
OceanBlue Not an expert on things Join Date: Jun 2007	This was an awesome game. A bit sad at the ending though, if only because Spoiler for Ending: Kyousuke ended missing 8 years of his child's development and Kyousuke and Haru seemed so lovestruck before Maou came. Plus, just the fact that the child wants to show herself off to Kyousuke instead of being scared or nervous probably means she feels familiar with him, which probably means Haru's been spending A LOT of time telling her stories about Kyousuke.