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Old 2012-03-03, 01:40   Link #2161
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Because it sounds whiny and unprofessional.
Thats because he's mean to be like that.
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Old 2012-03-03, 03:05   Link #2162
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Thats because he's mean to be like that.
Well regardless of intent, it is what is it.

*shrugged*
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Old 2012-03-03, 05:57   Link #2163
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I've always wondered: can the team not use their personas in the real world? I kind of expected Yu to bust the door open in the game, even more so in this ep where he was even more clearly panicked.

It would have given more credance to his explanation if he had shown his powers to his uncle too. How could he expect him to believe such a crazy story without some kind of proof? Even if we assume he couldn't summon his persona, he could still stick his hand into the TV (there even happened to be one in the room, how convenient!). For a guy with max expression and understanding, he didn't handle this very brightly.
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Old 2012-03-03, 06:08   Link #2164
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to use persona in the real world, they would have to shoot themselves in the head.
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Old 2012-03-03, 08:32   Link #2165
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I don't think there's anything that suggest they can do it in the real world.


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to use persona in the real world, they would have to shoot themselves in the head.
The perfect explanation that raises more confusion than answers
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Old 2012-03-03, 09:08   Link #2166
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I've always wondered: can the team not use their personas in the real world? I kind of expected Yu to bust the door open in the game, even more so in this ep where he was even more clearly panicked.

It would have given more credance to his explanation if he had shown his powers to his uncle too. How could he expect him to believe such a crazy story without some kind of proof? Even if we assume he couldn't summon his persona, he could still stick his hand into the TV (there even happened to be one in the room, how convenient!). For a guy with max expression and understanding, he didn't handle this very brightly.
Nope they can't use their Persona in the real world at all. I think Yuu was hoping that with all the time they've spent up till that point that Dojima would at least give him the benefit of the doubt and hear him out. Plus I'm also assuming he didn't wanna expose his ability to stick his hands into TVs with Adachi watching as well.

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to use persona in the real world, they would have to shoot themselves in the head.
Uh there's no Dark Hour in Inaba, plus they don't even use Evokers to summon their Personas. You're confusing this with Persona 3 and I can't tell if you're doing that intentionally or not.
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Old 2012-03-03, 10:43   Link #2167
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It would have indeed been better for Yu to start the explanation standing next to a TV for practical demonstration.

Or simply to start telling the story in a different way.

I personally found the explanation on how come Nanako got kidnapped since she didnt really appear on TV a bit feeble. Her name wasnt even mentioned, so how would the culprit know it??
I am also intrigued by the whole "I have to do this to save them". I wonder what the twisted explanation behind is actions is.


Ah guys, this anime is approaching the end, I am gonna miss it.
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Old 2012-03-03, 11:35   Link #2168
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Yu getting threats...
His uncle finally founding out about going into a TV, but he just ended up sounding crazy.
Kuma got his first phone ^^
Nana being the next one put everyone on the edge.
At least they figured out who the culprit was.
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Old 2012-03-03, 12:02   Link #2169
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Ookamigirl, can you write something more than just a summary?
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Old 2012-03-03, 13:13   Link #2170
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Nope they can't use their Persona in the real world at all. I think Yuu was hoping that with all the time they've spent up till that point that Dojima would at least give him the benefit of the doubt and hear him out. Plus I'm also assuming he didn't wanna expose his ability to stick his hands into TVs with Adachi watching as well.
He should known nobody, not even his parents, would ever believe such a non-nonsensical story without a shred of proof. I'm pretty sure I'd be sent to a psychiatric ward if I ever told anybody I can enter TVs

Adachi's presence didn't seem to bother him too much since he spilled the beans in front of him. Besides, he could have asked his Uncle to get him to leave the room if it was a problem, I'm sure Dojima would have gladly done so given how much he loves ordering the poor chap around. He only needed to tell him to get him a coffee or buy some cabbages or something.
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Old 2012-03-03, 13:52   Link #2171
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Because it sounds whiny and unprofessional.
Probably because he is whiny and unprofessional. Seriously, the most agitating part about Yu's confinement is that doofus cop is what's standing between him and rescuing Nanako.

When Adachi lets them out of that room and tells them "I didn't see nothin'", it's probably the first time in the show that he does something useful, at least on purpose.
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Old 2012-03-03, 15:27   Link #2172
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Since it's finally out in the open, I can say this now, right?

If you go through the series, Namatame has actually been making cameo appearances all over. The one off the top of my head was that one Rise episode where you can quite clearly see him outside the tofu shop amongst the crowd.
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Old 2012-03-03, 15:31   Link #2173
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yep,
Spoiler:
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Old 2012-03-03, 17:14   Link #2174
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I personally found the explanation on how come Nanako got kidnapped since she didnt really appear on TV a bit feeble. Her name wasnt even mentioned, so how would the culprit know it??
Naoto mentioned that Nanako's face and name were un-earthed by a journalist column, and they released it to the public in the newspaper, which in turn resulted in them divulging that information to everyone. Using the article that was printed, Namatame used that to discern her identity for his plan and kidnap her.

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Uh there's no Dark Hour in Inaba, plus they don't even use Evokers to summon their Personas. You're confusing this with Persona 3 and I can't tell if you're doing that intentionally or not.
It doesn't matter if they're in the Dark Hour or not. If you have an evoker you can summon your Persona anywhere you wish at any time. The P4 cast don't have evokers, so they're unable to summon Personas outside of the TV world.

P4 and P3 are in the same continuity. Don't try and make it sound like they're two entirely different things.
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Old 2012-03-03, 18:14   Link #2175
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You know, we don't actually know the rules of summoning personae, simply because no one has even attempted to summon a persona while NOT in some kind of supernatural phenomenon.
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Old 2012-03-03, 18:18   Link #2176
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It doesn't matter if they're in the Dark Hour or not. If you have an evoker you can summon your Persona anywhere you wish at any time.
And you know this because there's an example that it's been done before... ?
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Old 2012-03-03, 19:36   Link #2177
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The perfect explanation that raises more confusion than answers
It was done on purpose so that the answer is given both literally and figuratively.
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Old 2012-03-03, 23:30   Link #2178
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And you know this because there's an example that it's been done before... ?
Beginning of P3. Yukari was trying to summon her Persona with her evoker but couldn't go through with it. You could tell from the lighting of that scene that it was during the evening, not the dark hour. Plus, it was never stated anywhere that the Dark Hour needs to be in effect for them to summon their Personas.

The reason the P4 cast can only summon their Personas in the TV world without one isn't something I can't fully disclose at the moment since it is spoilers, but I'll state it's because of an certain "attribute" the world itself possesses which the real world does not.
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Old 2012-03-03, 23:58   Link #2179
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no, she was practicing in that scene. She was trying to get in the mindset that the evokers are NOT guns despite looking like one.

Let's put it like this, she was going through the motions of committing a symbolic suicide that allows her to release her Persona.
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Old 2012-03-04, 00:09   Link #2180
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And you know this because there's an example that it's been done before... ?
yeah, they need evoker to summon persona in the real world, as SilverSyko mentioned ,Yukari was trying to summon her Persona with her evoker but couldn't go through with it. and
Spoiler for Persona 3:


the Persona series director confirmed that all Persona game is in the same world, and all P1, P2 character can summon their Persona in the real world without evoker because
Spoiler for Persona 1,2:
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