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MAX_COLA_POWER! · 2012-10-08, 00:36

Spoiler for 139:

Nightengale · 2012-10-08, 02:34

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Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

Sinbad will be Alibaba's rival in the upcoming war. Hakuryuu will most likely become a pawn of Al-Sarmen.

Alibaba's nowhere close to being Sinbad's rival in the short-term.

He'll need to overcome mid-boss Hakuryuu first, defeat Al-Sarmen, and after several timeskips only will Alibaba be capable enough to match True Final Boss Sinbad.

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Originally Posted by MAX_COLA_POWER!

Spoiler for 139:

Though I'm not sure if it's a good thing or not in the long-term... I wonder if any of the trio will... bring some of their new-found allies back with them once they reunite.

Kafriel · 2012-10-08, 03:23

Damn, that was 19 pages!? Time sure flies in the coliseum/casino of Laum

Need...moar!

Spoiler for 140 after-fight guess:

Mura · 2012-10-08, 20:04

Just read chapter 140

Spoiler for Alibaba question:

Kazu-kun · 2012-10-08, 20:18

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Originally Posted by Mura

Just read chapter 140

Spoiler for Alibaba question:

Alibaba's original Magoi and Cassim's Magoi...

Mura · 2012-10-08, 20:23

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Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

Alibaba's original Magoi and Cassim's Magoi...

I'm guessing that happened during the Balbadd arc since I can't remember that happening. Guess I'll have to look over some of those chapters.

Kazu-kun · 2012-10-08, 20:29

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Originally Posted by Mura

I'm guessing that happened during the Balbadd arc since I can't remember that happening. Guess I'll have to look over some of those chapters.

Yeah, it happened in Balbad, but it was revealed later. Remember when that guy from Al-Sarmen poisoned Alibaba's magoi and Aladdin had to enter Alibaba's body? At that time Aladdin saw that part of Cassim's magoi was inside Alibaba, protecting him.

Mura · 2012-10-08, 20:30

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Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

Remember when that guy from Al-Sarmen poisoned Alibaba's magoi and Aladdin had to enter Alibaba's body? At that time Aladdin saw that part of Cassim's Magoi was inside Alibaba, protecting him.

Right....of course.

I'm facepalming so hard right now.

Nightengale · 2012-10-08, 20:53

Cassim's already an ever-present force in Alibaba's character development and history... and now they're one in life and power too. :/

I guess in hindsight, it being Cassim's magoi was obvious due to the various hints and all that... but I never liked the idea.

Is it just me, or does Cassim still feel like an unsympathetic asshole, after all is said and done? Sure, he had a 'woe is me' crapsake lifestyle, but he, out of his own volition, allowed himself to fall that far out of some twisted sense of jealousy and envy.

Kazu-kun · 2012-10-08, 21:36

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Originally Posted by Nightengale

Is it just me, or does Cassim still feel like an unsympathetic asshole, after all is said and done? Sure, he had a 'woe is me' crapsake lifestyle, but he, out of his own volition, allowed himself to fall that far out of some twisted sense of jealousy and envy.

His jealousy and envy warped his purpose, but deep down he did want to save his people and free his country. Yeah, he did horrible things, but holding a grudge against him for that is exactly what the story warns you against.

I suppose that's the underlying reason Cassim's character got so inextricably connected to Alibaba. The series' overall message is right there: if you're not willing to forgive you won't save anyone.

Just look at Hakuryuu. Her mother is certainly a bitch of astronomic proportions, and you could say Haku has the right to hate her. Yet, the story still asks for him to let go of his grudge.

XFire · 2012-10-08, 21:56

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Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

His jealousy and envy warped his purpose, but deep down he did want to save his people and free his country. Yeah, he did horrible things, but holding a grudge against him for that is exactly what the story warns you against.

I suppose that's the underlying reason Cassim's character got so inextricably connected to Alibaba. The series' overall message is right there: if you're not willing to forgive you won't save anyone.

Just look at Hakuryuu. Her mother is certainly a bitch of astronomic proportions, and you could say Haku has the right to hate her. Yet, the story still asks for him to let go of his grudge.

Cassim and Haku, whatever their motives, are not at the basest level truly wrong. But their methods to end one wrong creates another. And when someone rises against that wrong, it'll create another. It creates a chain of basically good intentions that is far more horrifying than simple revenge.

Rather than asking him to forgive her, he's being warned that the hatred is warping him into something similar. He shouldn't forgive her, but instead focus on making sure that no one, NO ONE, has to go through the same pain he did.

MAX_COLA_POWER! · 2012-10-08, 22:16

Kudos to Alibaba, for knowing how take off a woman's bra armor out of nowhere.

aohige · 2012-10-08, 23:13

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Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

Just look at Hakuryuu. Her mother is certainly a bitch of astronomic proportions, and you could say Haku has the right to hate her. Yet, the story still asks for him to let go of his grudge.

What is this, we're back in 1976 and Star Wars hasn't hit the theaters yet?

Key Board · 2012-10-09, 01:21

well. there are a few shows that preach revenge

they're just rare

personally, Gun X Sword was my favorite

aohige · 2012-10-09, 03:48

No, what I'm saying is, there's obvious "come to the dark side" mumbo jumbo development with him in this just like Star Wars.

Maybe it hasn't been translated yet, but hints of it has already been shown long ago.

Kafriel · 2012-10-09, 04:57

^ I think taking someone's head in front of a bunch of people who think it was their mother should count...Anyways, the dark side is strong in Magi and the hardest nut to crack will be Judal, who just might never crack at all and surprise kill someone instead.

aohige · 2012-10-09, 05:19

Judal is the one persuading people to the dark side, but he may in the end choose to rebel.
He's a Darth Vader afterall.

LeaD36 · 2012-10-09, 10:58

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Originally Posted by MAX_COLA_POWER!

Kudos to Alibaba, for knowing how take off a woman's bra armor out of nowhere.

really difficult to cut em bra straps

Starshipw · 2012-10-09, 12:19

Bra armor is defensive level 1000 and super effective against any weapon attack. The ability to remove bra armor is a highly advanced technique.

Kafriel · 2012-10-10, 15:52

141 is out. Man, what a ripoff!

...get it?

2012-10-08, 00:36	Link #101
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Kafriel Senior Guest Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Athens (GMT+2) Age: 35	Damn, that was 19 pages!? Time sure flies in the coliseum/casino of Laum Need...moar! Spoiler for 140 after-fight guess: Someone will gain a huge debt pretty soon, Fairy Tail style :P

2012-10-08, 20:04	Link #104
Mura Now or Never Join Date: Jan 2012 Age: 37	Just read chapter 140 Spoiler for Alibaba question: So what the deal with Alibaba having two types of magoi inside him? Where did the other come from if its been revealed yet. __________________

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Nightengale ~Night of Gales~ Author Join Date: Dec 2005	Cassim's already an ever-present force in Alibaba's character development and history... and now they're one in life and power too. :/ I guess in hindsight, it being Cassim's magoi was obvious due to the various hints and all that... but I never liked the idea. Is it just me, or does Cassim still feel like an unsympathetic asshole, after all is said and done? Sure, he had a 'woe is me' crapsake lifestyle, but he, out of his own volition, allowed himself to fall that far out of some twisted sense of jealousy and envy. __________________ *Night~and~Gale: ~ The Final Mythology of the Man who Defied Destiny.* The sleeping lion shall awaken beyond the depths of time, crossing ten billion lights, come to Terra.

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MAX_COLA_POWER! Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Puerto Rico	Kudos to Alibaba, for knowing how take off a woman's bra armor out of nowhere. __________________ She's in your internets, watching you masterdebate.

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Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	well. there are a few shows that preach revenge they're just rare personally, Gun X Sword was my favorite __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

2012-10-09, 03:48	Link #115
aohige ( ಠ_ಠ) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere, between the sacred silence and sleep	No, what I'm saying is, there's obvious "come to the dark side" mumbo jumbo development with him in this just like Star Wars. Maybe it hasn't been translated yet, but hints of it has already been shown long ago. __________________

2012-10-09, 04:57	Link #116
Kafriel Senior Guest Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Athens (GMT+2) Age: 35	^ I think taking someone's head in front of a bunch of people who think it was their mother should count...Anyways, the dark side is strong in Magi and the hardest nut to crack will be Judal, who just might never crack at all and surprise kill someone instead.

2012-10-09, 05:19	Link #117
aohige ( ಠ_ಠ) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere, between the sacred silence and sleep	Judal is the one persuading people to the dark side, but he may in the end choose to rebel. He's a Darth Vader afterall. __________________

2012-10-09, 12:19	Link #119
Starshipw Free Opinions Available Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Vacationing in the southern isles.	Bra armor is defensive level 1000 and super effective against any weapon attack. The ability to remove bra armor is a highly advanced technique.

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Kafriel Senior Guest Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Athens (GMT+2) Age: 35	141 is out. Man, what a ripoff! ...get it?