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View Poll Results: Critique of Episode 141
091 - 100: Amazing... 27 42.86%
081 - 090: Great... 22 34.92%
071 - 080: Very Good... 11 17.46%
061 - 070: Good... 2 3.17%
051 - 060: Average... 1 1.59%
041 - 050: Below Average... 0 0%
031 - 040: Bad... 0 0%
021 - 030: Very Bad... 0 0%
011 - 020: Awful... 0 0%
000 - 010: You couldn't even finish the episode... 0 0%
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Old 2009-12-25, 11:00   Link #41
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People realize that Shippuden has been too good lately and also too fast paced ( which means perfect ). And that means fillers, half or an entire years of fillers, that's the reality that cannot be changed. I personally like if the manga story is clearly separated from fillers, in the beginning of Shippuden this was not the case, the story was progressing damn slowly because the anime team kept adding their shit to the manga to make one episode of one chapter. Many viewers were very annoyed that there are episodes where almost nothing happens, the pace was painfully slow. The best example for such painful filler is Team-Gai fighting their own clones, a whole episode filled with the big and painful emptyness, the worst Naruto episode ever made. I like clear separation because now i can watch the real story with good pace and when the fillers begin i can stop watching the anime and return to watch it when the fillers ended, i'l just take a break and watch other things, for me it's like the anime taking a break for half or an entire year. And that's good.
That's fine and all. But what I'm saying is that when the anime is on a roll, enjoy it. Let the fillers come when they come, but until then, there's no need to talk about it until we actually see it in the preview. So especially for the anime-only audience, there's no reason to ask whether the next episode is filler. As far as they should be concerned with, the anime is the story. And who knows, some fillers might even be good. But if they insist on knowing, there're more than enough manga readers here that can spot a filler in the preview (or once they've watched the episode). And I have no doubt (from past experience) that these manga readers won't be able to stop themselves from pointing fillers out.
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Old 2009-12-25, 11:22   Link #42
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I think Jiraya's death had a better soundtrack. At least I felt more of the impact of the scene.

Also, the subbed episode I saw didn't have the same last words that I read on the translated version of the chapter of this part.
In the manga, it was:
"I'm sorry, Sasuke. Maybe next time..."
"I'm sorry, Sasuke. Maybe next time..."
"I'm sorry, Sasuke. Maybe next time..."

And the last words were:

"I'm sorry, Sasuke. There won't be a next time..."

I don't know if he said it like that in japanese, but in the subbed version I saw it was "I'm sorry Sasuke, this is it.", which (to me) took a lot of the power and meaning of the original words.

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Old 2009-12-25, 15:01   Link #43
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That's fine and all. But what I'm saying is that when the anime is on a roll, enjoy it. Let the fillers come when they come, but until then, there's no need to talk about it until we actually see it in the preview. So especially for the anime-only audience, there's no reason to ask whether the next episode is filler. As far as they should be concerned with, the anime is the story. And who knows, some fillers might even be good. But if they insist on knowing, there're more than enough manga readers here that can spot a filler in the preview (or once they've watched the episode). And I have no doubt (from past experience) that these manga readers won't be able to stop themselves from pointing fillers out.
The thing I disliked about reading anime-only viewer reactions to the Sasuke/Itachi fight was that they knew exactly how many episodes the fight was going to last before it began.

I agree with you, people should just enjoy it as it comes.

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I think Jiraya's death had a better soundtrack. At least I felt more of the impact of the scene.

Also, the subbed episode I saw didn't have the same last words that I read on the translated version of the chapter of this part.
In the manga, it was:
"I'm sorry, Sasuke. Maybe next time..."
"I'm sorry, Sasuke. Maybe next time..."
"I'm sorry, Sasuke. Maybe next time..."

And the last words were:

"I'm sorry, Sasuke. There won't be a next time..."

I don't know if he said it like that in japanese, but in the subbed version I saw it was "I'm sorry Sasuke, this is it.", which (to me) took a lot of the power and meaning of the original words.

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I'm with you there, after seeing it I looked up the manga chapter as it seemed different slightly.
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Old 2009-12-25, 15:27   Link #44
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This is my favorite part of Naruto and I loved the episode. Itachi is so much win
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Old 2009-12-25, 16:35   Link #45
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I really liked how we constantly got to see the same flashback over and over again.
You know the one with the famous quote: "Run, hide, cling on to life..."
It┤s been shown us so many times, that we actually believed Itachi being the bad guy to be the undoubted truth, so that when Madara told us the opposite the audience felt the same way Sasuke did (just not as extremely, of course).
I just love how repeating the same scenes over and over and over again can really make up for a great moment.

But the one thing I didn┤t like about the episode was the translation of Itachi's important line when he poked Sasuke's head for the last time. In the manga it's meaning was much clearer (at least in the translation I read back then).
Manga: "Sorry Sasuke, there won┤t be a next time."
Anime: "Sorry Sasuke, this is it."
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Old 2009-12-25, 16:58   Link #46
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But the one thing I didn┤t like about the episode was the translation of Itachi's important line when he poked Sasuke's head for the last time. In the manga it's meaning was much clearer (at least in the translation I read back then).
Manga: "Sorry Sasuke, there won┤t be a next time."
Anime: "Sorry Sasuke, this is it."
I agree with you there.But it was a great episode.I will miss Itachi after all I think he was a good guy.
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Old 2009-12-25, 18:18   Link #47
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This isn't fair i want to see narutos fights animated!!!! You manga readers know what im taking about!!!!! And yes these fights deserve a bunch of !!!!???!?!!?!?!!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

Im not waiting a year to see narutos S*** Mode!
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Old 2009-12-25, 19:06   Link #48
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10/10 Best Episode Ever for me
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Old 2009-12-25, 20:05   Link #49
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ahhhhh... darn...


i smell fillers coming!!!!
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Old 2009-12-25, 20:14   Link #50
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Last part , when Sasuke was crying , it was epic (in the good side)
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Old 2009-12-25, 22:04   Link #51
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Itachi truly loved his dear little brother.

edit: made a typo and used a female pronoun for Itachi.
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Old 2009-12-25, 22:18   Link #52
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So has the name of the anime officially been named Sasuke Shippuden? I mean, we haven't seen naruto do anything note worthy since his defeat of Kakuzu. I like getting background, but it seems everything is about Sasuke. Even Naruto's immediate goal in life is centered on Sasuke

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Old 2009-12-25, 22:50   Link #53
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Nice.

Mind rape v2.0 = Complete!
Itachi dying like a hero = pure WIN!
Incoming epic battle = now we are getting somewhere!
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Old 2009-12-25, 23:54   Link #54
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The Passion of the Itachi huh? He died for our sins, what a gas...While i always had a seething suspicion Itachi was a martyr of sorts, who knew he would be the reason I got a neat Polo Sport watch as a present this morning...December 25th will officially be Itachi-san's birthday I guess...So he put the Amaterasu in Sasuke's eye so he could kill Madara off before he could read the Itachi chapter of scripture? Damn that's Niisan love forya...I said that Madara kicks a$$ with fire-side chats, and boy did he kick my a$$....

These last two episodes more or less turns the entire series' on it's a$$, and in even some ways validates the rough patches of naruto as series we've had to deal with...Can't say it wasn't finally worth the wait to understand the incredible depth of what this show is truly about now (Itachi's shonen glory mini-skirmish in Konoha vs. Kakashi and company was just a precisely timed appearance to spook the $hit out of Danzou after the 3rd died? I did not sleep on the amped up musical device that made my lip nearly quiver off as it was revealed ...

Characters like Orochimaru, Gaaara, Zabuza, and the entire Akatsuki being mere fodder in the face of what was revealed today...Still dissapoints me the level of Jesus-ness Itachi's character has absorbed now, but he must be rolling over in his grave to see that all of his efforts have now been turned into $hit a bit as Super-Red Starlight Sharingan-eyed Sasuke now embarks on destroying Konoha...Or am i wrong about that?

So I guess Sasuke's Takashalaka team will eventually don the Akatsuki garb eh? In any event I still think a more epic Itachi vs. Sasuke fight would have done nothing to harm this stellar conclusion of a storyarc...It would have made more sense in terms of Itachi testing his full capacity, but I guess only having one thing to gripe about is a good thing for this suddenly best shonen-fighter currently airing called Naruto Shippudden (And only Itachi Jesus knows why it's still named Naruto )...

Merry Madara season yall^^...
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Old 2009-12-26, 01:07   Link #55
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^^^ Couldn't agree more! ..... Merry Madara season 2 u 2!

BTW ..The passion of the Itachi?! .....Nice!
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Old 2009-12-26, 03:31   Link #56
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Totally awesome episode.
Spoiler for Time till Naruto shines for real:
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Old 2009-12-26, 04:12   Link #57
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Good episode. I always had a suspicion that Itachi was a deep down a really good guy with a really good reason for killing his clan.

It is too bad that Sasuke is always his hot-headed, self-centered self; instead of realizing what his brother has fought so hard for and following it through, he chose to totally disregard his brothers feelings and efforts and doing the complete opposite of his brother's wishes. He plans to destroy Konoha, yet again spitting on Itachi's grave. He is so misguided that I am wondering why the show is so focused on him.

As for the filler debate, I too thought that the next episode was a filler with all the rapping that went on. However, after seeing Sasuke in Akatsuki uniform fighting eight-tales guy, I had hopes that it wasn't a filler, but still was not certain. Yes, anime only watchers cannot tell filler from non-fillers, unless an episode is so over the top dumb-down.
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Old 2009-12-26, 04:32   Link #58
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Finaly we see Sasuke's MS and it's shape.
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Old 2009-12-26, 06:44   Link #59
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Sasuke Crying Moments Can't Stand It

Ahhhh ..finally we knew the truth
Itachi Itachi Itachi .. although it was painful seeing those flashbacks and knowing the truth but still what he did is unforgivable imo .

Next week .. Sasuke looks cool with Akatsuki outfit

I loved the flashback when they were so young, eating dinner as a family and using shadow clone in hide and seek I wish we could do that when we were kids

Best part: Sasuke's Mangekyou Sharingan .. Beautiful shape.

Painful part: "I'm sorry Sasuke, this is it" I was crying at that moment and cried more when I read what u posted "I'm sorry, Sasuke. There won't be a next time..." OMG why they changed it?! .. the last one got more meaning

Whether filler or not .. Naruto is the best .. and don’t arguing about if it's clear the next ep will be filler or not .. u wanna know the answer, u must ask non manga readers .. well as I am one of them, im gonna tell ya .. for me & some of my friends, it was clear that the next ep is cannon not a filler but some other friends doubted about it .. so I think it was not very obvious and I can say experience plays an important role.

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Old 2009-12-26, 07:37   Link #60
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Ow and i was waiting to hear Habichi's rap ... Lulz it sounds horrible imo
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