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View Poll Results: Danganronpa 3: Future Arc - Episode 9 Rating
Perfect 10 4 36.36%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 4 36.36%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 1 9.09%
7 out of 10 : Good 0 0%
6 out of 10 : Average 1 9.09%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 1 9.09%
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Old 2016-09-05, 13:50   Link #1
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Old 2016-09-05, 14:01   Link #2
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You managed to fool me one time, Kodaka. But you are not going to trick me twice.

And the little doubt I had regarding the mastermind before watching this episode is gone now.
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Old 2016-09-05, 14:12   Link #3
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So it turns out the relocation theory was correct after all. A ton of deaths this episode too, robo-Miaya and Juzo are killed by Kyosuke, Ruruka is killed by the attacker and Kyoko is killed by her very dastardly NG code. Can't say I'm surprised, I figured it was gonna happen.

Now the death of the main heroine aside, there is one thing that this episode managed to reinforce for me and that's the "Chisa is the culprit" theory. According to the OP survivor count and accepting all the deaths in this episode as legit, this brings us down to 5 people left, however we only know 4 of those people: Makoto, Aoi, Kyosuke and Ryota. Who is this 5th person though? Since it's not Yasuhiro like everyone thought it was at the start of the game it must mean there's still someone still skulking around out of sight.

Now that it's indeed confirmed they were all relocated that means the first time they were knocked out it was probably for a very significant amount of time, possibly enough time for the culprit to plant a fake body double as a corpse to fool everyone after they woke up (aka Chisa). Also since they're so familiar with Kyosuke's feelings and ideals, they were able to manipulate him as a means to go after Makoto who is the biggest threat to the culprit's ambitions. This may also explain why Kyosuke has changed so much after being told who the culprit was by Kazuo and killed his best friend Juzo himself so he would never have to find out the truth like he did.

In summary a lot of what's happening is making Chisa seem more and more like the culprit here. In fact I'm almost 100% convinced it is.
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Old 2016-09-05, 14:15   Link #4
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I'm not almost convinced, I'm 100% convinced.

Yukizome Chisa

Forbidden Action: Kyosuke Munakata dies.

You can't make it more blatant than this.
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Old 2016-09-05, 14:45   Link #5
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I apologize for doing it this way but I can't explain it any other way.


Kirigiri is most likely alive.

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Old 2016-09-05, 14:48   Link #6
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I was going to post exactly that. Thanks for sparing me the effort, GW

All I can say is, Seiko be praised.
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Old 2016-09-05, 15:06   Link #7
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I apologize for doing it this way but I can't explain it any other way.

Kirigiri is most likely alive.
I saw people blow this up on Reddit... on one hand I am hopeful, but... even if Kirigiri pulls through its starting to look like Asahina is white despair.

I can't buy the whole Chisa is alive theory. Although I think I have a theory as to why she died first.

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Old 2016-09-05, 15:13   Link #8
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None of the survivors of Class 78 is going to bite the dust, if that is what you are worried about.
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Old 2016-09-05, 15:23   Link #9
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Kyoko still being alive is just wishful thinking IMO, I seriously think she's dead otherwise it just kinda cheapens all the tender moments she had with Makoto beforehand and how much she believed in him to put his life before hers, but to be fair her NG code might've been easy to prevent because it was extremely specific so she could've possibly prepared a countermeasure beforehand.
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Old 2016-09-05, 15:29   Link #10
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It serves a purpose, actually.

By the way, Golden, I'm trying to pm you but the mailbox won't allow me
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Old 2016-09-05, 15:40   Link #11
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Old 2016-09-05, 15:59   Link #12
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Juzo is also most likely still alive. Munakata stabbed him with the blade heated, so that should have cauterized the wound instantly.
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Old 2016-09-05, 16:00   Link #13
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I don't feel bad at all that Andou died...especially with the role she's been in some of the latest episodes including this one.

But Kirigri? I wasn't ready for this level of despair at all
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Old 2016-09-05, 16:05   Link #14
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Kyoko still being alive is just wishful thinking IMO, I seriously think she's dead otherwise it just kinda cheapens all the tender moments she had with Makoto beforehand and how much she believed in him to put his life before hers, but to be fair her NG code might've been easy to prevent because it was extremely specific so she could've possibly prepared a countermeasure beforehand.
Cure W has a spotty track record; the poison works way too quickly for her to have saved herself, and she didn't have the advantage of being awake either. If she's alive its more likely because of someone else who could have that advantage.
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Old 2016-09-05, 16:14   Link #15
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I also doubt that Kirigiri is dead.

And this only leaves one question: why did Yukizome Chisa did all this? What was the purpose? To make Kyosuke turn into Saint of Hope? Because she failed at that, hard...
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Old 2016-09-05, 16:24   Link #17
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I also doubt that Kirigiri is dead.

And this only leaves one question: why did Yukizome Chisa did all this? What was the purpose? To make Kyosuke turn into Saint of Hope? Because she failed at that, hard...
Do you need to really ask? Who was the teacher of the class that became the worst gathering of terrorists in history and thrown the world in a state of anarchy?

In fact, I'm beggining to suspect it wasn't Junko the one who plunged them into despair. She was just the inspiration.
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Old 2016-09-05, 16:30   Link #18
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Old 2016-09-05, 16:44   Link #19
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Well i was certainly right baout them not being at the same place/time in one way or another (although that was pretty obviou given the party someone had on the formerly pristine walls )
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I saw people blow this up on Reddit... on one hand I am hopeful, but... even if Kirigiri pulls through its starting to look like Asahina is black hope.

I can't buy the whole Chisa is alive theory. Although I think I have a theory as to why she died first.
You know the thing is the only person left whose NG code we don't know about is Munataka.
So we know Juzou wasn't the attacker - he couldn't have been since Ruruka wouldn't have died then.
This only leaves the following persons as potential culprits and Masterminds:

Kirigiri, Munataka, Mitari and Chisa. Mr lucky guy(cause he has been fully absent until now and wasn't even near Monaka where you'd suspect him);

Now personally I consider either Junko(even if its just the AI for all I care) or Chisa to be the Mastermind. However the mastermind and the Killer could as well be still the same person.
The next interesting question is how Robomiaya knows all the NG actions.
Sure she could have stood up all the time and checked (or just scanned the bracelets with her Robo eye) but isn't that a bit too convenient?
Now back to Chisa being the attacker - First of all her death right at the beginning was rather random, moreover we know that there is a SHL make up artist who can make real looking corpses.

So lets assume Munataka is the Mastermind: Why again would he give the one person he didn't want to die until he spoke wiith Tengan THAT NG action if she wans't either the attacker or the Mastermind?
On the other hand if Chisa was the mastermind or the killer she couldn't care less about that NG action as she can control who dies in the inbetweens. Not to mention that she died first and no one ever properly examined her body back then.

The next reason is imho the Way Ruruka died.
All the dead people until now where put into elevated places, while Ruruka wasn't. Moreover, there is a lot more blood around Ruruka than around the other corpses. Her body is also a lot more torn.
So why would that be?
Either it was Seiko, who was for some reason still alive (will eleborate on that later) or Chisa.
Now Seiko really has a reason to hate her, and the general state of Ruruka's Body also implies it (especially the scattered sweets and that the culprit made her eat them).
Now before we eleborate on that more lets go to back to Chisa.
It is pretty obvious how attached Chisa is to her loved one - and we have seen/heard her having a Junko like outburst in the past too. If she was somehow brainwashed by Junko I can totally see her turning Yandere and be extremely pissed at Ruruka who killed the guy she loved just so he couldn't betray her despite having had no reason to think he'd do it.


So now back to the corpses. In this regard I'd like to add in another possibility although I really hope I am wrong about this, as it would imho make a bad mystery:

People dying from either their NG action or from being killed by the culprit are being turned into the next culprit. - or at least their bodies are being used to commit the murder somehow.

Now lets look at the deaths:
- Chisa pretty unspectacular.
- Farmer guy: NG action
- Great Guzou being Hanged on chains as if you'd want him to bleed out.
- Tenzan: Munataka
- Seiko : Being punched into the wall
- Izayoi: NG action
- Kizakura NG action
- Juzou: Munataka
? Kirigiri: NG
- Ruruka: being Mauled.

So lets add a bit fuel to the fire:

Farmer --> Guzou: Cows/bulls are being hung up on the Ceiling to bleed out after you kill them - Now lets take a look at Guzou's mask...
Guzou --> Seiko: Seiko was punched/pressed into the wall with an incredible force
Seiko/Izayoi -> Ruruka: Now lets compare her corpse to the others. Let me tell you someone had a grudge there. All the sweets are scattered or somehow pressed into the corpse. Both Izayoi and Seiko would have a reason to do that. And while the wounds and general body state point more to Seiko, some of those cuts are really fine - So maybe both of them?
Both of them would certainly have a reason to stuff her with sweets(Izayo was killed by them and Seiko got pestered with them on every single occassion). Also Seiko being up at that point would also explain how the additional Cure W actually made it to Kirigiri.
And tbh given how Ruruka's pants are open and there is blood looking like it would come from there I really don't want to know what Chisa/Seiko or Izayoi did to her.

So now about Cure W. What if Cure W actualyl has the side effect of turning people into agressive half-Zombies? Lets take a look at Munataka - he was an arse before but look at him now especially his eyes.


And again I really hope I am wrong with this - as it would make a bad mystery. I just had to let this brain fart out.
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Old 2016-09-05, 16:48   Link #20
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Can we talk about Ruruka's death? Man, that was brutal. It wasn't like all the previous victims, her body shows evident signs of torture. Why would the culprit kill her in such a horrific way. There are cuts all over her body, her are eyes bleeding, she seems to also have been strangled, and to add insult to the injury the killer put a candy on her mouth.
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