2011-09-01, 06:49 | Link #61 | |
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And that massive army of proffesionals is a total noob in comparison to Naruto, that's LAME! We basicly have same situation as in Bleach only that here Naruto was actually training and progressing accordingly. Not like in Bleach where Ichigo gets random power ups out of thin air.
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2011-09-01, 07:23 | Link #62 | |
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true, goku started this whole messiah thing and it was badass at the beginning, but when all the other shonen heroes followed his example it got tiresome. ichigo is one good example of a goku-wannabe and now naruto! luffy may be super luffy now but the rest of the straw hats are not so weak that they needed to be saved, they can fight their own battles, not to mention he teams up with them to defeat really strong opponents. naruto doesn't need to fight every battle, all he needs is to fight the strongest ones, the ones no one else could defeat but him. that's what luffy usually does.
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2011-09-01, 07:57 | Link #63 |
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It looks like Itachi had his MS geared towards Genjutsu. (See his Tsukuyomi) The sword of Totsuka seemed to be a sealing device, sealing you into a perfect illusion or what not.
Sasuke's sword, in contrast, seems to be wreathed in Amaterasu, which was always his specialty anyway (Enton flames) as far as MS goes. So I think we've got two very different Susanoo.
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2011-09-01, 08:26 | Link #64 | |
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I was supposed to ask within this chapter when will Sasuke join the war but the last page of this chapter is like an answer that blow right away to my face lol
so now, my reaction about the war: "yay! Sasuke joining the war is the end of the (Ninja) world.!" so that is the style of his EMS. Btw, so Sasuke is immortal now since he obtained EMS like Madara, right? Then, Darn it! How will Naruto take him down? I still like Naruto's syle of entrance. That is what a hero or a main character should get all the attention. Though his entrance during Pain arc is the most badass that I like. And yeah. .........just want to add and say that the third raikage is really great since he can stay in a battle for almost 3 days and 3 nights without resting, regenerating his chakra, eating and sleeping. Quote:
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2011-09-01, 13:25 | Link #65 |
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That's really not the case with Ichigo, in the last arc, every captain fought their own Espada and won, he was saved by Kenpachi and Byakuya twice, he struggled fighting the Espadas, it was clear that he couldn't have beat them all by himself. Even right now he needed the captains vicecaptains to get his powers back.
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2011-09-01, 13:57 | Link #66 | |
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I think you refer here to my earlier posts about a possible training with Itachi. My point was not that Naruto needs more power/strength, my point was that he needs more jutsu, more diversity, so that his fights become more interesting. We see again in this chaptar that all he uses is rasengan, rasengan, rasengan, .... it's becoming boring despite the fact that there are some really cool variations of it introduced in recent chapters. I think the main reason why people can be annoyed by Naruto being the one who stands in the spotlight instead of other kages and Temari is because they find Naruto's rasengans boring, while the other kages could have some really interesting and cool looking jutsu. |
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2011-09-01, 14:50 | Link #67 |
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It's almost like Kishimoto did everything I feared he would do and turned it up to 11. I won't even bring up the hypocrisy from the last chapter. I am sick of Naruto. When you hate the main character, it is best to move on.
I am done with this manga. It's just too frustrating to see such waste.
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2011-09-01, 17:30 | Link #69 | |
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I thought Gaara's fight would have been Gaara's fight, especially after reading the truth about his origin. The other Kage came in, fine, we've never seen him fight before, and he looks like he has some interesting jutsu... But then, these two Kages are unable to finish their foe, and suddenly Naruto jumps in to take him out in one move --and he leaves very shortly after. Why did he have to jump in at all, there was no real reason but fan service to make him look that much stronger than everyone else. I can understand if he was moving by and helped some fodder ninja, but Gaara and the TsuchiKage? I think its very silly for him to have to help everyone the way he is, I mean what major progress has the alliance made themselves? This is ridiculous. Watching him obnoxiously jump in and save everyone is really very irritating to read. The biggest waste to me this arc, was the potential for a great fight with some of the rookies, he could have definetely made a decent fight at least comparable to some of the early Akatsuki fights, like Gaara vs. Deidara or Sasori vs. Sakura and Chiyo. I really don't see why the author found it necessary to sacrifice that in order for Naruto to jump around and be everyone's superman --especially those who are supposed to be elite ninja themselves. I mean Naruto will get plenty of spotlight and glory either way considering he's the main character, I don't see why he needed to take everyone else's. Last edited by Midnight Commander; 2011-09-01 at 17:42. |
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No, I expect to see Itachi mopping up the zombies (actually, I don't expect to see anything, we were told this is what he was going to do, so there is no reason to see it), Sasuke killing Kabuto, and Kirabi either defeating or being defeated by Pain 2.0. Then comes Sasuke v. Naruto, and finally the Madara battle. |
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2011-09-01, 17:49 | Link #71 |
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^Well, I see your point, but considering his status in his village and in the alliance force, I feel this was something he shoud have been able to complete without the main character's intervention. Imo, the Tsukage being there with him should have been enough, they chose to face the problem together anyway.
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2011-09-01, 22:51 | Link #75 | |
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Perhaps the biggest let down though, was the alliance effort (thus far anyway), which especially after this chapter, isn't exactly looking as I expected. I was really disappointed, especially just after having to sit through that training arc. At this point, I was honestly about to take another break, but the last part of this chapter was really a breath of fresh air. Perfect timing, because we are really in desperate need of some interesting characters right about now. Hopefully Madara and/or Kabuto will get some much needed airtime next chapter as well, because I am really tired of Mr. Captain Planet and his rapper sidekick, whose practically every line is the most stereotypical phrase you can think of. |
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2011-09-02, 01:54 | Link #76 |
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this manga has fallen to the abyss of what all shounen manga's are about. That is...loser protagonist slowly and steadily becomes the biggest badass and beats the crap out of everyone. Before I enjoyed Naruto a lot more because was weak but managed to surprise you here and there. Since the pain arc, he's more or less been on hax-overdrive just ...overwhelming all his opponents sort of like how a super-saiyan does. This manga has pretty much devolved into Naruto owning anything that stands in his way, for free - you know he's going to steam roll everyone and it's just a matter of how badly he's going to do it. Can't blame anyone for losing interest. I'll give some credit to Kishimoto for at least keeping us in anticipation about a few thing like who tobi/madara is and who kabuto's summon is.
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2011-09-02, 05:21 | Link #78 | |
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And I disagree, I actually want to see Naruto super powered and kicking/saving everyone. I was actually getting sick seeing Naruto who always needed help and babysitters.
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2011-09-02, 09:50 | Link #79 |
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It's not like I don't understand the complaints but this has been the trend for the entire part 2. He is finally getting the same treatment Sasuke got for the past decade, when was beating top class ninjas for free and getting one godly power up after another and making everyone else look worthless. Remember he beat a fully rested Deidara when Naruto and two teams failed. He overpowered Orochimaru when 4 tail Naruto couldn't. He made Sai crap his pants when Naruto couldn't even touch him. Naruto was like a side character is his own story. I say his current power level is stupid, but at this point it's only fair. He made an entire village look incompetent, but for that matter so did Pein. In fact, Pein made the entire post time skip plot look contrived. If he could single handely overpower the strogest village then he should've done so from the beginning when the entire Aktsuki was still alive, he wouldn't even need some looney tooney plan about bijuus. Given that Deidara and Sasori also overpowered a village, that would leave a team of 2 for each of the big 5. Just gang up on Itachi first then go out and kill everyone.
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2011-09-02, 10:25 | Link #80 | |
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now naruto, like what kishi did to his villains, is being hyped up as well. but you see, most of the complaints stem from the fact that kishi attempted to get naruto to let go of his hero complex by having itachi lecture him about relying on his friends and not getting too full of himself. and yet in this chapter he went on and played the savior anyway. so what was the purpose of itachi's lecture? i don't mind him playing the hero but he doesn't have to fight every battle and win them for his allies. let the others fight and win their battles for themselves. it's not like they're not capable. but i guess kishi is concerned that if he doesn't have naruto in every chapter the manga sales would drop again. probably why he brought back sasuke. he needs to increase sales.
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