Romance in Code Geass (Take 3)

[Sports72Xtrm]

Originally Posted by morbosfist

She just told him her father was killed by Zero. He'd have to be one hell of a bastard to refuse her.

Didn't stop him from refusing Kallen >>

[Rising Dragon]

Originally Posted by Jaime Kordek

Yeah, but hopefully now we're back on track.

So here's a question, who is the best Tamaki pairing?

I'm going to go with TamakixZhou Xianglin

They fit well together.

Are you kidding!? C.C. x Tamaki is obviously the best choice for him!

[morbosfist]

Originally Posted by Sports72Xtrm

Didn't stop him from refusing Kallen >>

How exactly did he refuse her? Seriously, explain.

[Shadowcatch]

Originally Posted by Sports72Xtrm

Didn't stop him from refusing Kallen >>

Exactly. Therefore there can only be one logical explanation. C.C.'s kisses with him WERE the best =D

[Jaime Kordek]

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Are you kidding!? C.C. x Tamaki is obviously the best choice for him!

They do have a nice rapport, but he seems kind of poor, I don't think he could afford her pizza habit. Especially after he lost his job administering the BK finances.

[dec4rhapsody]

Originally Posted by yvj

Should I whip out Var's Gif?

LOL, go ahead.

[yvj]

Originally Posted by Jaime Kordek

They do have a nice rapport, but he seems kind of poor, I don't think he could afford her pizza habit. Especially after he lost his job administering the BK finances.

C.C will end up marrying a Scottish immortal pizza delivery boy who will go on to become the Highlander.

Bank on it!

[Sports72Xtrm]

Originally Posted by Sports72Xtrm

Spoiler for Sirlulu kiss:

Look at this pic. Dropped umbrella. Dropped handbag, Arms around her waist. Shirley leaning in. Making out in the freaking rain. If that is not passion, if that is not love I don't know what is.

Originally Posted by Sports72Xtrm

No but they have more than just physical attraction so it's more than just the physical. And it says a hell lot more than the confuzzled then ok thnx got to go bai reaction for the Clulu kiss and the stone faced cricket cricket reaction from the Klulu kiss. Which are lame imo

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QILaX4uSXP8 Klulu kiss

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nKqfRkwtUtE Clulu kiss

Originally Posted by morbosfist

How exactly did he refuse her? Seriously, explain.

Just going by the reactions to the kisses and technically the scenarios to the situations aren't even that different...Idk I'm just saying...>>
Kalulu- No reaction
Shirlulu- Chemicals react
Cluclu- ambush (for mystical plot reasons)

[morbosfist]

Originally Posted by Sports72Xtrm

Just going by the reactions to the kisses and technically the scenarios to the situations aren't even that different...Idk is all...>>

I figured as much, no explanation at all. The scenarios are very different. To even claim they are remotely similar is at best ignorant.

Shirley's father had just died, and judging by her dialog in the following episode they didn't even talk about it afterward. Lelouch gave her the comfort she wanted. Really it was the least he could do.

With Kallen he was trying to drive her away, yet still took the time to enjoy the kiss. He did what he had to there, but his body language and sorrowful goodbye tell you he did not enjoy doing so.

[yvj]

Originally Posted by dec4rhapsody

LOL, go ahead.

Why not since it's a request for the Lulz

Spoiler for Overanlaysis:

[Sports72Xtrm]

Originally Posted by morbosfist

I figured as much, no explanation at all. The scenarios are very different. To even claim they are remotely similar is at best ignorant.

Shirley's father had just died, and judging by her dialog in the following episode they didn't even talk about it afterward. Lelouch gave her the comfort she wanted. Really it was the least he could do.

With Kallen he was trying to drive her away, yet still took the time to enjoy the kiss. He did what he had to there, but his body language and sorrowful goodbye tell you he did not enjoy doing so.

Maybe....maybe not...it's ambiguous....

[Shadowcatch]

Well, all kisses were initiated by the girls. And it was all a shock to Lelouch. The only kisses Lelouch starts are ones with Nunnally on her forehead. Or with himself when no one is looking. Therefore, we can't really tell who he loves. Besides himself.

[lovecakecookies]

and ALL the kisses where in his flashbacks..



maybe he is like his daddy..

[morbosfist]

Kalulu kiss was still the longest of the bunch, and the first to come to mind.

Originally Posted by Sports72Xtrm

Maybe....maybe not...it's ambiguous....

Yet Shirley is not. You seem to hold a double standard here.

[Sol Falling]

Originally Posted by yvj

Canon disagrees with you.

Because he confessed/showed obvious love to no one

I'm getting the impression of some sort of arbitrary divide between 'romantic love' and other 'love'.

Originally Posted by morbosfist

If he actually loved her romantically, he'd have actually said so, rather than that forced excuse in Turn 12. Lelouch never admits his love for anyone, excluding his sister, but his actions show that he cares for all of them.

Why does Lelouch have to 'say so'?

The 'forcedness' of his Turn 12 confession is debatable. On the other hand, Lelouch's acceptance of switching hats with Shirley, and becoming the official school couple, is not. Shirley said "I will make you love me". His willingness to let her do so speaks for itself.

We also have Lelouch's line: "If reincarnation exists, let's be lovers".

[morbosfist]

Originally Posted by Sol Falling

Why does Lelouch have to 'say so'?

The 'forcedness' of his Turn 12 confession is debatable. On the other hand, Lelouch's acceptance of switching hats with Shirley, and becoming the official school couple, is not. Shirley said "I will make you love me". His willingness to let her do so speaks for itself.

We also have Lelouch's line: "If reincarnation exists, let's be lovers".

Don't remember that line. What episode? As for switching hats, exactly how was he to refuse her in that situation? It's not in his character to essentially go, "Sorry babe, not risking it." He may do that without her knowledge, but certainly not to her face. Same with the "make you love me" quote. Lelouch may not want to involve her, but he's not the type to crush her like that.

[Sports72Xtrm]

Originally Posted by morbosfist

Kalulu kiss was still the longest of the bunch, and the first to come to mind.
Yet Shirley is not. You seem to hold a double standard here.

Yes well like Sol said, there are lot's of positive reinforcement coming from Lelouch both actively and inactively, most of the time Lulu didn't even know he was doing it and had to rely on Shirley to give him a way out to deny everything. Which is hard for me to say it's ambiguous. As for Kallen, I haven't seen any positive reinforcement unless you count that over analysis gif as proof which is dubious in itself. But just one man's opinion

Both had their love hindered by circumstances beyond them but I'm just saying Lulu is taking great pains and a lot of effort for prolonging this one sided "crush" of Shirleys.

Lelouch immediately squashed Kallen's crush 10 sec after she confessed. Maybe he learned from his mistakes from Shirley? Maybe it would have ruined the plan? or it could be something else....it's ambiguous.

[Witacume]

the third faction has come.
the big guns are beginning.
I must start the summoning the power of the most powerful ONE
VAR OF THE POSSIBILITIES!!!

haha i had too.
Sol falling i would respond to you because i always enjoy your posts though i disagree with some.
but it is getting late so i will respond to them tomorrow channeling my inner var.

[morbosfist]

Originally Posted by Sports72Xtrm

Yes well like Sol said, there are lot's of positive reinforcement coming from Lelouch both actively and inactively, most of the time Lulu didn't even know he was doing it and had to rely on Shirley to give him a way out to deny everything. Which is hard for me to say it's ambiguous. As for Kallen, I haven't seen any positive reinforcement unless you count that over analysis gif as proof which is dubious in itself. But just one man's opinion

Both had their love hindered by circumstances beyond them but I'm just saying Lulu is taking great pains and a lot of effort for prolonging this one sided "crush" of Shirleys.

Lelouch immediately squashed Kallen's crush 10 sec after she confessed. Maybe he learned from his mistakes from Shirley? Maybe it would have ruined the plan? or it could be something else....it's ambiguous.

I don't see much positive reinforcement from Lelouch that isn't either unintentional or simply using her as part of her plans, which would be Turns 12 and 4, respectively. Not to mention season 1, which is almost entirely negative since he and Kallen keep getting into misunderstandings. You're horribly exaggerating Lelouch's actions in regards to her in order to make your point work. He didn't do anything to dissuade her, and it got her killed.

Kallen's reinforcement is more subtle, but I'd call risking his whole damn army and breaking character in front of a room full of people pretty damn positive. As for squashing her crush, he did that for her sake when he knew, for a fact, it would end badly for her. Shirley just got dealt a bad hand both times, so Lelouch didn't dissuade her because there was really no harm in letting her, at least on the surface.

[yvj]

Originally Posted by Sol Falling

I'm getting the impression of some sort of arbitrary divide between 'romantic love' and other 'love'.

Obviously I meant romantic love.

Originally Posted by Sol Falling

Why does Lelouch have to 'say so'?

When did he say no to anyone?

Originally Posted by Sol Falling

The 'forcedness' of his Turn 12 confession is debatable. On the other hand, Lelouch's acceptance of switching hats with Shirley, and becoming the official school couple, is not. Shirley said "I will make you love me". His willingness to let her do so speaks for itself.

We also have Lelouch's line: "If reincarnation exists, let's be lovers".

I don't remember this line but I'll take your word for it.

And add it to the rest of the ambiguity.