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Lelouch Stays Single | 141 | 13.51% | |
Lelouch x C.C. | 678 | 64.94% | |
Lelouch x Kallen | 340 | 32.57% | |
Lelouch x Millay | 54 | 5.17% | |
Lelouch x Harem | 121 | 11.59% | |
Suzaku Stays Single | 148 | 14.18% | |
Suzaku x Nunally | 60 | 5.75% | |
Lloyd x Millay | 23 | 2.20% | |
Viletta x Ougi | 179 | 17.15% | |
Rival x Millay | 93 | 8.91% | |
Lloyd x Cecile | 116 | 11.11% | |
Kanon x Nina | 45 | 4.31% | |
Xing-ke x Tianzi | 150 | 14.37% | |
Todou x Chiba | 81 | 7.76% | |
Gino x Anya | 52 | 4.98% | |
Cornelia x Guilford | 142 | 13.60% | |
Zero x Kaguya | 87 | 8.33% | |
Others (please list) | 96 | 9.20% | |
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2008-10-27, 00:21 | Link #9221 | |
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Whereas Lulu is taking great pains to prolong Shirley's crush. |
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2008-10-27, 00:25 | Link #9223 |
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More like it's you holding up a double standard, touting Shirley as unambiguous despite inflating everything in regards to her then claiming everything that happens to Kallen must be ambiguous. As for Kallen, rescuing her in Turn 10-11 had nothing to do with Nunnally. You have your episodes mixed up. Kallen would have been saved one way or another by 18 so bargaining for her release would be pointless, as well as asking too much of a man already in a compromising position.
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2008-10-27, 00:28 | Link #9224 | |
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2008-10-27, 00:32 | Link #9226 | |
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2008-10-27, 00:33 | Link #9227 |
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Shirlulu's kiss is just awesome atmospherically. Rain. Cold. Darkness. The contrast of the bright, packed, opera house, where they should have been that very moment. Accessories discarded, skin pressed against skin. Wetness. Cold. Warmth.
What is running through their minds? Shirley: "I want Lelouch. Even though my father died, that is all I care about." Lelouch: "I want Shirley. Even though I killed her father, that is all I care about." Stealthy. Guilt-stained. 'Nothing exists but you'. They are lost in each other's world. It is a mutual, consensual kiss. They are on the same wavelength. Compare with Lelouch and Kallen's: "Who are you? What am I to you?" "Goodbye." Compare with Lelouch and C.C.'s: "I need to seal your memories." "wtf." What's my argument here? Shirlulu's kiss was awsome. |
2008-10-27, 00:34 | Link #9228 |
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Morbofist, I'd just like to point out that what you see as a "double standard" is actually Sports mocking everyone's claims of ambiguity.
Sol, I'd +rep you for that post, but I still need to dole more out before I can rep you again. >___>
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2008-10-27, 00:46 | Link #9231 | |
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I don't necessarily agree with the assessments of their thoughts, but I laughed out loud, so... I don't necessarily think that Lelouch was thinking about how he wanted Shirley there, he felt a combination of guilt, and wanting to comfort his friend. He would've been kind of a heel to use that moment as a relationship starter, sort of taking advantage of her moment of weakness. Also, I totally see parallels between this scene and the later one between Kallen and Lelouch, when he asks her to comfort him. |
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2008-10-27, 00:53 | Link #9232 |
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Well I'm just saying, Shirlulu has been having romantic connotations from it from day one and he let it happen which I think is as close as a confirmation as you can get IMO. Where as Cluclu and Kalulu well, they said their piece but no sign of reciprocation on the type of caring about them in that kind of level. It's absence of proof to me. Well you can argue that shit got in the way and maybe your right which puts it in ambiguity but it's still absence of proof. But I think Shirlulu got the most confirmation IMO. Maybe he loved the two of them as well? Who knows. But I like to think that he definitely loved Shirley. IMHO.
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Anyway, it is in Lelouch's character to crush people for their safety: his geass to Shirley in Stage 14; his lie to Kallen in Turn 19; both to Nunally in Turn 25. Well, as for that last one, practically the whole of Zero Requiem was him crushing people for their own good. To her face or not is irrelevant; actually, it's more in Lelouch's style to crush people by villainizing himself publically. But that really leads to my point: I do agree that it wasn't in Lelouch's character to refuse Shirley in that situation. After what she had said, Lelouch had (emotionally) no choice but to (genuinely) give in to her. Lelouch demonstrated many times that he cared for people. For any number of those instances, that 'care' could have been 'romantic love', even if Lelouch never said that explicitly. The point is to analyze those scenes to determine what kind of care it was. You said, Lelouch has never confessed/showed obvious love. This might as well apply for platonic love in a number of instances. Lelouch sacrificed his plan when Kallen was captured. Lelouch leapt off a (several-hundred-story high) building to save Shirley. Does Lelouch 'confess' he did these things out of friendship? Does he 'show' 'obvious' platonic affection? No. Taking this attitude, I could say Lelouch has never confessed/showed 'obvious' friendship with Shirley, C.C., Kallen, Rivalz, Milly, Nina, Nunally, Euphemia, Suzaku etc. I could produce a similar list of other characters for other types of 'care'. That's why your statement demonstrates an arbitrary divide between romantic and other types of love. Quote:
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