2008-10-17, 19:12 | Link #1962 |
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Well, they had been Geassed into following Emperor Lelouch's every command. Once he was dead, I suppose the Geass could have just worn off since the conditions set for it would be moot (unless he survived, but then he wouldn't be EMPEROR Lelouch anymore. He might not even be Lelouch).
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2008-10-17, 19:19 | Link #1964 |
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Lol nope he wont be Lelouch anymore. He would dye his hair white and call himself R.R. and have as much sex with C.C. as he wants
... .. yea right. As for the Jeremiah issue, Lelouch may have told them to obey Jeremiah. As we know, someone under a geass doesnt NECESSARILY regain themselves after the person who casted the geass dies(I mean, look at Nunnally) |
2008-10-17, 19:27 | Link #1965 |
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My point is that since Emperor Lelouch could no longer give orders, the conditions for the command would be moot. They would still technically be Geassed, but the order would no longer have any power.
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2008-10-18, 00:11 | Link #1966 |
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Most likely Jeremiah just ungeassed them, it would be one thing that added to Lelouch's image.
Either that its a sequel hook where the hundreds of soldiers form a new army in revenge, and the whole place falls apart because its Suzaku (stong pilot horrible leader), and Ougi (horrible leader) being leaders of the world. Keep in mind that death do not effect geass, just look at Charles geass which kept until Nunnaly broke it. If Lelouch died and those soldiers where not ungeassed than they would probably be loyal to him, and die fighting Suzaku. |
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Also, if it was not the case that they were degeassed, Lelouch could just have ordered them to "follow everything Jeremiah orders". The be-all end-all command anyway was already given: "Acknowledge me" <==> "Do anything I order from now on". This command also maximizes the geass of Lelouch. You could order them whatever you want for as many times as you want.
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Ohgi is only Prime Minister of a single nation part of an alliance full of people who are likely smarter than him in such matters. His lack of skills will be offset by an experienced cabinet.
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Also A Prime Minister to quote President Bush has to be "The Decider", and Ougi is going to be The Decider. The cabinet can only give him suggestions, and advice, and he has to choose the right one. The cabinet is not going to agree on everything. |
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I don't want to get started on Bush. Yes, Ohgi is the decider, but there are people there who will make relatively sure that what he decides won't be so detrimental as to tear the country apart overnight. It's not like it'll be a lifetime term.
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Animage November 2008 Okouchi Interview Part 1
The Okouchi interview is so long and I can't do it all in one go. So, until somebody provides a more detailed and accurate translation of it, I'll post a loose summary for the meantime.
Pink-chan, I'm borrowing your links. That alright? DISCLAIMER: This is only a loose translation/summary, not word-for-word. Feel free to correct any mistakes in translation. Animage November 2008 Okouchi Interview Part 1: "Code Geass" is a story about seeking tomorrow Upper half of the page: The characters who sought tomorrow (Will add more soon. I'm just going page by page): Lelouch vi Britannia - He understood people's desires through the World of C. That was, the desire for tomorrow. To compensate for continuing to involve the people he used geass on, he decided to carry the burden of fulfilling the wishes of the people. He sought not his own tomorrow, but the tomorrow that the world sought for. C.C. - Her wish was to die as a human, but after spending time with Lelouch, C.C. also wished for tomorrow. She made up her mind to ensure the tomorrow of the world that Lelouch had left. The Lelouch who is always facing forward Animage: One of the themes of this work is "Rebellion". Do you think Lelouch succeeded in his rebellion? Okouchi thinks that Lelouch did succeed. Despite being opposed by the whole world, he was able to go through with it until the very end. The themes that Okouchi considered depicting in the series: Okouchi mentioned themes like mecha, school, tactics, super powers, and many other things, but the first thing on his mind had to be the character named Lelouch. The title was "Code Geass Lelouch of the Rebellion" after all. He had written a script that felt like a biography of the man named Lelouch. Feedback regarding the script: Okouchi had already decided the outcome of the story from Stage 1. He talked about it with a number of the staff, but he never got their opinion back then. Even after half a year, when he had a more concrete idea of the ending, he still did not have others' opinions. About the staff's consensus regarding the last scene: The staff contemplated about how they would like the epilogue to be and had a survey from which they picked the ending they would like. What Okouchi felt after completing the script: Okouchi was silent after finishing the script. Because the script of Code Geass was demanding on production, as much as possible, he wanted the production team to finish earlier than scheduled, but consequently, he did not feel much. Animage: The production of Code Geass certainly seemed to have taken a lot of time, didn't it? This part talks of how a lot of cuts in the story had to be made, and how the production team had to work hard. Even as cuts were made, more (character and story) settings were established and the number of images that had to be drawn also increased. Character and mecha elements were plentiful, so skillful staff were needed. Code Geass exceeded everyone's imaginations with the help of the staff. About how Code Geass contains so many things and if Okouchi did not find it difficult to write the script: Okouchi said that it was difficult for him, what will the mecha and school elements. In the first place, when the story was being planned out, he had to work with many things. Compared to the first season, the stage of second season moves from Japan to a wider stage - the world. The amount of information that had to be provided would definitely increase. And at the same time, because R2 was considered a new program, they had to make adjustments for the new followers and those who were already familiar with the series from before. Because Okouchi was challenged to take the story to another level, to advance it further, it was difficult. When the outcome was decided, that was only the time Okouchi felt assurance. About the last part portending an opportunity to change the world: Okouchi thought that it was nonsense think that the world could completely change by Lelouch's actions. The world can't be change as easy as that. But, if we people given the chance, they can find direction. Certainly, Lelouch and the others had ended the war. However, it doesn't mean an ever lasting peace. The constant efforts of the people who remain are very much needed to maintain that peace. What Okouchi meant by that was, Nunnally, Kallen, and Zero (Suzaku), the ones who remain, will play an important role. They will live the story by the meaning of experiences lie there. ---------- Part 2 may be up later, tomorrow, or never, if somebody else already plans to translate. Also, according to 2ch, Lelouch's profile on geass.net says: Quote:
^ This and the last question on the first page of Okouchi's interview clearly says who is alive and who is not. Last edited by blottyparchment; 2008-10-19 at 07:22. Reason: Code Geass is a story about SEEKING tomorrow, not saving...my brain is not functioning well >_> |
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Again, free will. They have it, Geassed people don't. They can only act in a way which allows them to carry out their orders. With master dead, the order is meaningless, or at the very least falls down the chain of command.
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For Sakuradite to do all that then Suzaku, Nunnaly, and Cornelia, would have to allow Ougi to use the Sakuradite as a monopoly, Japan's growth is in rebuilding its shattered infrastructure due to the previous 2 wars, and in training the Japanese into things like electronics like the real world Japanese. |
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