2010-03-18, 23:06 | Link #6141 |
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And so the AthenaXHayate flag falls... likely never to rise again...
And the NagiXHayate flag goes even higher? Haha. While the manga is probably going to shift to a more gag-comedy for now, I hope it doesn't last TOO long. I gotta admit I'm one of those who rushed through a lot of the comedy chapters to get to this more serious chapters..Ah.. but I guess a few gags don't hurt... I'm not too sure what to say about ch 265 as I want to read it in english to really interpret what that chapter means. |
2010-03-18, 23:45 | Link #6142 |
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Something I just realized, though I think it was earlier chapters that made the distinction. Most people thought that Athena leaving Hayate with the stone when she healed and cared for him after Machina beat him up, we thought that that was a sign of her maturity. Now we've found out that she can't touch the stones, which changes it from a 'she's acting mature' to 'she can't help but leave it alone'.
Kinda amusing that a supposed 'good' thing about her turned out to be an action she only took because of the curse inflicted. All sorts of points take on a different outlook if you let them settle and get all the pieces together before making a decision about them. Maybe we should just let this sit for a moment before taking our anger out because Athena is leaving the main cast.
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2010-03-19, 00:01 | Link #6143 | |
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She told Hayate to give her the stone in chapter 255 which means she could hold it. When she left the Royal Garden, the curse was probably already lifted. |
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2010-03-19, 00:08 | Link #6144 |
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we dont know that much, there are way to handle the stone without touching it....oh well something so trivial makes no difference to the end result anyways, Athena is too nice for her own good
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2010-03-19, 00:11 | Link #6145 |
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For better evident: http://www.mangafox.com/manga/hayate...er/c243/5.html
There was no problem to take the stone, whether she can touch it or not. That is why I'm not fond with pure and kind girls, especially ones with altruism. ~.~ |
2010-03-19, 00:18 | Link #6146 | |
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If she had a way of holding the stone without actually touching it, it would have been easy to subvert. She could have taken the stone from Hayate when he was six because technically he wasn't holding it either, it was within the pouch he was carrying. She's always seemed to have someone with her, first Hayate, then his brother, recently Machina, then Hayate again. Nothing to indicate that she could actually touch the stone, or anything touching/carrying it, on her own.
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2010-03-19, 00:30 | Link #6147 | |
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She never said she needs any power from Hayate. She believed Hayate took the Power of Royal when she sleep outside the castle. She didn't realized Hayate had the stone, and she can't exit the castle even with the stone or may be she can, although that doesn't really matter. Last edited by zodanhko; 2010-03-19 at 00:41. |
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2010-03-19, 01:48 | Link #6150 | |
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So far, I've said that a Nagi end wasn't likely due to the lack of romantic development (read: complete absence of it). However, after these chapters I think it's quite likely Hata will indeed pull a main female character end, in the end. Well, the arcs to come may give him the opportunity to develop it.
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2010-03-19, 02:58 | Link #6151 |
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So far, its going to be back to normal (mahn, nothin is ever normal in HnG, is it?)
I got mixed feelings though, Athena can leave for all she wants but she'll come back surely enough when the situation gets rough some time in the future. Perfect opportunity for other characters to develop, Maria, Aika, Fumi and Sharuna are all I could think of. Well then, I hope that it doens't end up comedically boring.
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2010-03-19, 03:15 | Link #6152 | ||
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The main disadvantage of Nagi is her age. She's too young for Hayate to build a romantic link. So either, Nagi (kid, now) needs to morph into Nagi (adolescent, future), or I can't see any development. Quote:
And sorry, there hasn't been any romantic progress concerning Maria in a few ages. Along with the inherent difficulties I saw from the past (letting Nagi lose her surrogate mother AND her lover at the same time), I have difficulties seeing a path here. So, if we DO assume that the Athena arc is completely closed (probable, but not certain), who remains with the most significant and most detailed romantic development is Hina. Which is why I'd say that she gained the most out of c265. |
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2010-03-19, 03:31 | Link #6153 | |
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I think the most likely case would be his chosen lover moving in with them, allowing Nagi to continually fawn over him (she's shown enough growth in this arc to show that generally she would allow it, and most of the other girls are the same). Maria has also shown a similar level of devotion to Nagi.. which makes Nagi's assumption that she'll leave eventually a bit of fridge logic. The entire reason that Maria has tried to stay in the background of the harem is because of supporting Nagi's place in it. Maria as the choice does have the advantage of not changing the makeup of the cast interactions in any meaningful way, she doesn't seem a likely choice from Hayate's POV. I agree that Hinagiku has gained the most ground through this arc, but Ayumu also placed herself back in contention during it, though I don't see her as much of a real competitor.
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2010-03-19, 04:01 | Link #6154 | |
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Actually, they were on that direction. For example, when Athena told Hayate to go back to his important person, we had an image of Nagi and Ayumu, in which Nagi was talking about the deep bond she has with Hayate. That's minimal, but it sure is suspicious. Another flag that wasn't so subtle was when Hayate was wondering about the day when he'd be able to tell "I love you" to someone again, and during that first inner monologue, Nagi was shown.
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Either way, I'd say you guys should wait for the scanlations and then form a better judgement.
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2010-03-19, 04:19 | Link #6155 | ||
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Lots of really major hurdles to overcome... and would that qualify as "happy ending"? *scratch head* Quote:
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2010-03-19, 04:24 | Link #6156 | ||
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For Nagi to "win", she needs to mature. If we're treated to a time "speedup" or a "time jump" while continuing the story, this would indicate a Nagi ending. As long as she remains the kid she is, I doubt that we'll get the romantic groundwork which would be needed. |
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2010-03-19, 04:31 | Link #6157 |
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aah hamster, truly someone I admire in this manga only second to athena (this is just in the admiration category btw) because after a-tan she seems to be the most direct person when it comes to her feelings with Hayate....a fine choice...dammit Hayate's harem is full of god tier contestants
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2010-03-19, 04:32 | Link #6158 | |
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The first was with Maria specifically, under the clearly obvious (even Hayate could see through it) excuse that if it were Nagi herself the person they were trying to trick would only see it as him taking a little-sister figure on a shopping trip or something. The second was a little more opaque, sending Hayate out with Hinagiku earlier in the arc, with a somewhat plausible excuse. It seemed that when she smashed the stone, that she might have some clue that she might have misinterpreted his initial statement. Something about 'words being easy to be heard in the wrong context'? I can't say I would really mind most endings aside from Hina or Nagi, but I don't think any of them would turn out to be 'happy endings', including Athena.
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