2013-01-30, 21:08 | Link #2261 |
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This whole arc has been about making the shinigami look pathetic starting with Byakuya and Renji using bankai despite warnings. Ichigo spent the last arc training to regain his shinigami powers and now his sword has been destroyed to the weird point it can't be repaired
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2013-01-30, 21:38 | Link #2262 |
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Called it, I had a feeling it was Unahona bringing him back and not some immortality.
Funny that you mention that because whats happening now seems to be the same as what happened to Hinamori. Unahona healed her from a "fatal" wound. After recently watching the SS arc and seeing Unahona draw her sword to heal Hitsu and Hina, I've become convinced that her Zanpaktou is a healing type.
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2013-01-31, 05:59 | Link #2268 |
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Well, the original answer was he was a child born and raised in the lowest, most violent district in Soul Society. His entire childhood was probably spent killing people to survive, and he just proved to be the fittest of the whole lot.
Sometimes monsters are just born.
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2013-01-31, 09:08 | Link #2270 |
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So while Unohana never officially lost as Kenpachi, she felt the loss to Zaraki and felt the need to resign and become a healer, maintaining the tradition of the Kenpachi (although in a roundabout way, as it took a while for the rightful Kenpachi to take his place) - neat, although this does remove the possibility of him being pushed to such a point by Unohana that his later "my zanpakuto does actually have a name, and it's ..." isn't pulled from nowhere/a long conversation in the middle of a battle
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2013-01-31, 19:56 | Link #2271 | |||
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2013-01-31, 22:09 | Link #2272 | ||
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Obviously, Aizen's zanpakuto abilities made him far too deadly for anyone in the Gotei 13 to handle. Unohana told Ichigo not even she could stand up to his ability, but she's likely stronger than him (not counting his evolved forms) in terms of raw power. Quote:
What really gets me is how after bringing one of the most powerful shinigami in history to her knees, Zaraki was able to go on living in relative obscurity for decades. He should've become a legend right there.
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2013-01-31, 22:46 | Link #2274 | ||
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Long story short, the room for such a possibility is there IMO. About the only solid point I see that pokes a major hole in my theory is the statement you brought up about the supposed strength of all 5 Royal Guard members. Granted, there's still ways to explain it, but anything I can come up with at the moment wouldn't sound completely plausible or easy to digest. |
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2013-02-01, 19:37 | Link #2276 | |||
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Of course, Shunsui being appointed does prove you don't necessarily have to be the strongest, but remember Yamamoto himself wasn't appointed. He founded the Gotei 13 and seems to have based the seat of commander on his own strength. As for the title Kenpachi, obviously the Kenpachis that came between Unohana and Zaraki weren't as strong as those two. So it has become something of a formal title and not a literal statement of being the absolute strongest shinigami. And it seems like the name applies to a specific type of warrior--someone who has insatiable love of intense battle and violence plus a fighting style based purely on overwhelming physical power/swordsmanship. It's not just about overall fighting strength. I think even if Ichigo became powerful as the Spirit King himself, he wouldn't be considered a Kenpachi. Quote:
Power levels huh?
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2013-02-01, 21:26 | Link #2277 |
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yea, kenpachi now means that that person beat the last kenpachi. it doesnt imply they are the strongest. someone who was weaker than yama-jii could have still beat kenpachi #3 and became #4 for instance.
also, i agree that shunsui isnt the strongest, but we still have no idea what his bankai is. whatever it is, it's so powerful it isn't safe to use around allies. i'm just saying that it's possible that his bankai makes him the strongest captain |
2013-02-01, 22:25 | Link #2278 |
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Shinsui once implied that he was stronger than Hitsugaya and Soifong when fighting Starrk. Even Ukitake said his bankai was dangerous in the fake Karakura Town. However, I don't think he is strongest than Yama. It may be a build up for the upcoming battle.
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2013-02-01, 22:32 | Link #2279 | ||
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