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Sides · 2017-12-03, 18:41

I'm surpised. It seems like they reanimated lip/mouth movement to sync with the english audio voice track. This mean if you use the jpn audio track, the lip movement won't match up.

Shadow5YA · 2017-12-03, 21:05

Do Blades ever get more than 4 Arts? I feel like I should spend some WP to level some, but I don't want to waste it on lower level skills if I get better ones later.

Y Ddraig Goch · 2017-12-03, 23:49

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Originally Posted by Sides

I'm surpised. It seems like they reanimated lip/mouth movement to sync with the english audio voice track. This mean if you use the jpn audio track, the lip movement won't match up.

Really? Is this something you noted or something officially stated? It looked to me that the game was still synced to the jp dub.

Spoiler for party member introduction:

Sides · 2017-12-04, 11:53

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Originally Posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Really? Is this something you noted or something officially stated? It looked to me that the game was still synced to the jp dub.

It is something I noticed, mainly because of the different names used in the oversea versions (Homura/Pyra)

**Klashikari** · 2017-12-04, 12:46

No they didn't. The vast majority of reviewers noted the lipsynch was absurdely off in a lot of cutscenes and they clearly didn't have the voice pack. Meanwhile, I've very rarely seen that with the JP dub.

Sides · 2017-12-04, 13:09

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Originally Posted by Klashikari

No they didn't. The vast majority of reviewers noted the lipsynch was absurdely off in a lot of cutscenes and they clearly didn't have the voice pack. Meanwhile, I've very rarely seen that with the JP dub.

Well the EU copy is definitely not in sync with the jpn track, or they just made them open and close their mouths randomly according to the lenght of tracks.

**Klashikari** · 2017-12-04, 13:41

I played the first 2 chapter with the JP game, then the EU game, and they have the exact same animations. They probably just added few more lip flaps at times, but if you go watch cutscenes in English, it is way off.

Y Ddraig Goch · 2017-12-04, 16:11

The lip sync is especially jarring in parts where it is required to watch the movement of the lips to get the message. Hopefully, an XC2 Secret File will shed light on those parts.

Speaking of books, does anyone know if the special edition artbook has any storyboards or short stories? The page count of XC2's art book rivals that of XC1's Secret File.

**Klashikari** · 2017-12-04, 16:36

None. The book is basically a huge collection of sketches, illustrations and design concepts. Not sure if it has content regarding cut stuff from the game like XBX though. Going to check more thoroughly once I'm done with the game (chap9 with 52h)

ZGoten · 2017-12-05, 15:14

The game is incredible. My favorite Xenoblade so far.

Wandering Soul · 2017-12-05, 18:17

I'm looking to get into the Xeno series, so would you guys say it is worthwhile to buy a 3ds for the original Xenoblade?

**Klashikari** · 2017-12-05, 18:31

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Originally Posted by ZGoten

The game is incredible. My favorite Xenoblade so far.

I finished the game after 60 hours, and I definitely agree with this statement. To me, it goes like this: XB2 > XB1 >= XBX.
The game itself is a bit rough with some QoL features severely missing there, but aside, it was a wild ride and I think I will increase the timer count around 150h+ at this rate.

If only the extra story DLC wasn't in a year...

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Originally Posted by Wandering Soul

I'm looking to get into the Xeno series, so would you guys say it is worthwhile to buy a 3ds for the original Xenoblade?

Frankly, it isn't a good idea considering how it runs rather poorly on the 3DS. It is serviceable enough if you don't want to go after a wii version, but the 3DS game isn't worth the purchase of a new3DS especially the console is close to its natural cycle.

Playing it on the wii or the wii U is better, but if all fails, well... there is emulation so heh.

Shadow5YA · 2017-12-05, 18:59

The game says that getting rare Blades depends on the character's Luck stat, but how high does it have to be to consistently get them at least half the time?

**Klashikari** · 2017-12-05, 19:20

There isn't really any formula yet.
My advice is that you should only roll for 1 extra rare blade for everyone and keep your cores for later. Note that I'd definitely not recommend using too many cores on Rex considering he doesn't really need a lot of them.

Shadow5YA · 2017-12-05, 19:31

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Originally Posted by Klashikari

There isn't really any formula yet.
My advice is that you should only roll for 1 extra rare blade for everyone and keep your cores for later. Note that I'd definitely not recommend using too many cores on Rex considering he doesn't really need a lot of them.

That's what I'm going for. I don't have any rare blades yet.

**Klashikari** · 2017-12-06, 07:46

Just in case: Think twice before using an overdrive protocol. Those are extremely rare (found 3 of them) and they are one use only.
Also, avoid hybrid build, they are really inefficient in mid and late game.

Shadow5YA · 2017-12-06, 23:07

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Originally Posted by Klashikari

Just in case: Think twice before using an overdrive protocol. Those are extremely rare (found 3 of them) and they are one use only.
Also, avoid hybrid build, they are really inefficient in mid and late game.

What do you mean by hybrid? Are you talking about elements, multiple weapons, Physical attack vs Ether, or attack/tank/healer roles?

ZGoten · 2017-12-06, 23:26

^Probably the latter. I think it's easiest to have an ATK/ATK/ATK-HLR/HLR/HLR-TNK/TNK/TNK setup because it's reliable. That being said I don't strictly adhere to it myself. Kora is just too awesome.

**Klashikari** · 2017-12-07, 06:43

Physical/Ether hybrid isn't that bad, but it is mainly role hybrid that doesn't work that well, especially for Tanks.
The reason is that you can't exactly have your tank switch from a tank blade into anything else as they are at risk of taking spike damage during that period, and since you have no control on the IA blade switch, it is not a good idea. Even if you control the tank of your party, you are limiting yourself in that case for the same reason. Also, note that the class bonus such as aggro UP is inferior with 2 TNK + 1 ATK/HLR compared to 3 TNK.

This kind of optimization isn't exactly necessary early on, but starting approximately from chapter 5, it isn't really a good idea.

ATK and HLR are fine with 1 blade from the other type, but you shouldn't put a TNK blade on any of them. But similarly for tanks, the class bonus (damage UP and potion effect UP etc) isn't maximized if you don't put the 3 blades of the same type.

Applehell · 2017-12-07, 12:18

Just got start of Ch 3 and my god the pain of using a rare core crystal plus booster, only to waste by getting a trash bllade is almost unbearable.

Besides that this has been pretty fun so far. I'm staring to get fair good at battle system, but half time it's hard come grips with it when stuff get's really hectic.

I'm thinking of going back to Goldmouth and trying to farm some boosters right now.

EDIT: If anyone looking for a list of favorites this should help:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...LKk/edit#gid=0

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Klashikari 阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv180 Graphic Designer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Belgium, Brussels Age: 37	No they didn't. The vast majority of reviewers noted the lipsynch was absurdely off in a lot of cutscenes and they clearly didn't have the voice pack. Meanwhile, I've very rarely seen that with the JP dub. __________________ [Sig art: Kagura Yuu, Nunukko, Maku Rako & Mishima Kurone] / [Twitter]

2017-12-04, 13:41	Link #47
Klashikari 阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv180 Graphic Designer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Belgium, Brussels Age: 37	I played the first 2 chapter with the JP game, then the EU game, and they have the exact same animations. They probably just added few more lip flaps at times, but if you go watch cutscenes in English, it is way off. __________________ [Sig art: Kagura Yuu, Nunukko, Maku Rako & Mishima Kurone] / [Twitter]

2017-12-04, 16:36	Link #49
Klashikari 阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv180 Graphic Designer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Belgium, Brussels Age: 37	None. The book is basically a huge collection of sketches, illustrations and design concepts. Not sure if it has content regarding cut stuff from the game like XBX though. Going to check more thoroughly once I'm done with the game (chap9 with 52h) __________________ [Sig art: Kagura Yuu, Nunukko, Maku Rako & Mishima Kurone] / [Twitter]

2017-12-05, 15:14	Link #50
ZGoten Custom User Title Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Germany Age: 34	The game is incredible. My favorite Xenoblade so far. __________________ Truth is elusive to those who refuse to see with both eyes.

2017-12-05, 18:17	Link #51
Wandering Soul Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: America	I'm looking to get into the Xeno series, so would you guys say it is worthwhile to buy a 3ds for the original Xenoblade? __________________

2017-12-03, 18:41	Link #41
Sides Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Edinburgh Age: 42	I'm surpised. It seems like they reanimated lip/mouth movement to sync with the english audio voice track. This mean if you use the jpn audio track, the lip movement won't match up.

2017-12-03, 21:05	Link #42
Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	Do Blades ever get more than 4 Arts? I feel like I should spend some WP to level some, but I don't want to waste it on lower level skills if I get better ones later.

2017-12-04, 16:11	Link #48
Y Ddraig Goch Chasing Echoes Join Date: Jul 2014	The lip sync is especially jarring in parts where it is required to watch the movement of the lips to get the message. Hopefully, an XC2 Secret File will shed light on those parts. Speaking of books, does anyone know if the special edition artbook has any storyboards or short stories? The page count of XC2's art book rivals that of XC1's Secret File.

2017-12-05, 18:59	Link #53
Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	The game says that getting rare Blades depends on the character's Luck stat, but how high does it have to be to consistently get them at least half the time?

2017-12-05, 19:20	Link #54
Klashikari 阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv180 Graphic Designer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Belgium, Brussels Age: 37	There isn't really any formula yet. My advice is that you should only roll for 1 extra rare blade for everyone and keep your cores for later. Note that I'd definitely not recommend using too many cores on Rex considering he doesn't really need a lot of them. __________________ [Sig art: Kagura Yuu, Nunukko, Maku Rako & Mishima Kurone] / [Twitter]

2017-12-06, 07:46	Link #56
Klashikari 阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv180 Graphic Designer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Belgium, Brussels Age: 37	Just in case: Think twice before using an overdrive protocol. Those are extremely rare (found 3 of them) and they are one use only. Also, avoid hybrid build, they are really inefficient in mid and late game. __________________ [Sig art: Kagura Yuu, Nunukko, Maku Rako & Mishima Kurone] / [Twitter]

2017-12-06, 23:26	Link #58
ZGoten Custom User Title Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Germany Age: 34	^Probably the latter. I think it's easiest to have an ATK/ATK/ATK-HLR/HLR/HLR-TNK/TNK/TNK setup because it's reliable. That being said I don't strictly adhere to it myself. Kora is just too awesome. __________________ Truth is elusive to those who refuse to see with both eyes.

2017-12-07, 06:43	Link #59
Klashikari 阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv180 Graphic Designer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Belgium, Brussels Age: 37	Physical/Ether hybrid isn't that bad, but it is mainly role hybrid that doesn't work that well, especially for Tanks. The reason is that you can't exactly have your tank switch from a tank blade into anything else as they are at risk of taking spike damage during that period, and since you have no control on the IA blade switch, it is not a good idea. Even if you control the tank of your party, you are limiting yourself in that case for the same reason. Also, note that the class bonus such as aggro UP is inferior with 2 TNK + 1 ATK/HLR compared to 3 TNK. This kind of optimization isn't exactly necessary early on, but starting approximately from chapter 5, it isn't really a good idea. ATK and HLR are fine with 1 blade from the other type, but you shouldn't put a TNK blade on any of them. But similarly for tanks, the class bonus (damage UP and potion effect UP etc) isn't maximized if you don't put the 3 blades of the same type. __________________ [Sig art: Kagura Yuu, Nunukko, Maku Rako & Mishima Kurone] / [Twitter] Last edited by Klashikari; 2017-12-07 at 07:01.

2017-12-07, 12:18	Link #60
Applehell Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2016	Just got start of Ch 3 and my god the pain of using a rare core crystal plus booster, only to waste by getting a trash bllade is almost unbearable. Besides that this has been pretty fun so far. I'm staring to get fair good at battle system, but half time it's hard come grips with it when stuff get's really hectic. I'm thinking of going back to Goldmouth and trying to farm some boosters right now. EDIT: If anyone looking for a list of favorites this should help: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...LKk/edit#gid=0 Last edited by Applehell; 2017-12-07 at 13:47.