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This was posted today... ***Yes, it's graphic and violent*** Spoiler for More Basij Brutality:
There's a report of the clerics removing the current supreme leader position from the government. If it's true, I hope it brings the kind of changes we all hope it will.
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2009-06-23, 05:31 | Link #182 | |
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2009-06-23, 12:38 | Link #185 |
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However, at this moment the opposition are using different tactics of silent protest to avoid much trouble and bloodshed, even as state TV says that everything is quiet.
But I don't think Ahmadinejad nor the Ayatollah are going to have a nice, quiet commute to work from this week onward, and scapegoating isn't gonna work anymore. Right now, Neda has a full name, and even after death she's anywhere.
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2009-06-23, 12:46 | Link #186 | |
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Anyone seen Dick Cheney around lately?
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2009-06-23, 17:11 | Link #187 |
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Things have calmed down, for now. It remains to be seen if it's over.
State TV is reporting that the Neda shooting was staged. No surprise there. Unfortunately, the older folks are believing it. I read one report of an Iranian saying his parents refused to believe their government would kill someone like that. If Ahmadinejad and Khamenei stay in power after all of this, then we'll really know what kind of government we have to contend with.
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2009-06-23, 18:08 | Link #188 |
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I hope that if there really is a national strike in the next days that no major violence is going to happen. On the long run things can still turn out positive for the opposition. But then again, people have to live too. The regime is backed by the money of the oil, they are in a better position in a national strike.
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2009-06-23, 18:33 | Link #189 |
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a strike wont effect much
the regime wont change over it and the goverment has already spoken about the election recount when you got oil funding you, then who cares about the people regimes dont change becouse of strikes, and the "revolutiionary fire" has all but been extinguished nothing changes and the deaths and destraction have all been in vain move along... nothing to see here
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2009-06-23, 21:45 | Link #190 |
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The Iranian oil industry is in disarray as well. Thanks to their insistence that all drilling must be done by themselves, foreign companies give them basic technology, which of course is not highly productive, to put it mildly.
Regime changes can start from strikes. If they are to succeed, a strike is only the beginning. Again, we have no idea who the various factions with guns are loyal to, and how deep that loyalty runs. For now, it is still a waiting game, and some tight-rope walking by all sides. Act 1 has ended. When will Act 2 be staged?
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2009-06-24, 01:47 | Link #191 | |
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2009-06-24, 02:54 | Link #192 | ||
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And some interesting perspective on the Basij in this Salon article. Quote:
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2009-06-24, 03:01 | Link #193 |
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From that account, Iran seems to have its own version of the Hitler Youth. When a regime uses child militia and treat them well when they are not needed, you know that something is seriously messed up, and fixing it will be one hell of a task.
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2009-06-24, 04:00 | Link #194 | |
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Firing at rifle at 14 doesn't make a kid a child soldier, neither is teaching him to kill. But letting him executing what he has learnt is a different issue altogether. I forsee a bloody coup within the next few months, something like the Bloody Sunday in 1905 Russia.
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2009-06-24, 04:51 | Link #196 | |
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2009-06-24, 05:55 | Link #197 | ||
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I think Iran history since the Revolution is pretty synonymous with Animal Farm by Orwell. Bunch of hypocritical pigs tarnished the religion of Islam by reinterpreting it to suit their tastes. Quote:
Islam seems to be a complicated religion. Why do some people interpret it as a religion of peace laced with war? Right now, even the Muslim "freedom fighters" fight for a "jihad" when the cause is so flawed. I refuse to believe that Islam or Christianity has some omnipotent being who relishes in bodily fluids like a rampaging ravenous omnivore. It is just some asses who wanted power by pretending to be a messenger of that being of worship, then killing those who stand in their way.
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2009-06-24, 06:38 | Link #198 |
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Here in Malaysia(which I came from), the media praises Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for his "fair and square" victory. They also praises Iranian government handling the riot. I heard a rumor that Malaysian government put their anti-riot police at Iranian embassy because they knew there will be some protest take place. In other words Malaysian government and people wants Mahmoud Ahmadinejad win because they saw him as "hero" who can exterminate the Jews in this world, primarily in Israel. They always dreamed to see Israel's downfall.
Since I'm a Malaysian too, don't count me as one. In fact I was never in their side from beginning. Want to know what Malaysian people looks like. They are no better than Israelis and Americans which they believed their media was controlled by the Jews. Malaysian media is no better either. Just a social propaganda crap. |
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the only peace that such religion's can accept is when anyone NOT part of said religion is either dead or inslaved the moment you say there is only one god, you say that everyone who DOESNT believe in him must die (basiclly) religion is a man made product ment (originally) to try and give answers to our lack of knowing about the natural world humans are by nature creatures that seek understanding and patterns in what we see and we often would prefer even a bullshit answer then a no answer hence religion but it has since became (in the words of karl marx) "the opiate of the masses" and the ones in charge are the dealers and pushers there would always be conflict, but involving religion in these conflicts is a sure fire way to inflame them farther there is no better way to prepetuate a specific conflict and make people unwilling to compremise in it then declaring the whole thing a "holy" issue Quote:
partly because i cant for the life of me understand WHY this is the case what possible tie is there between the jews/israel and Malaysia ?
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