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Nixl · 2010-09-01, 17:25

Or...Tabitha becomes emo.

I vote Yuma for president. It's all in that over-hanging stretch of hair.

This also makes me wonder of what the worse possible situation that could happen next. Possibly, the org launches a counter-attack on either Rabona or Claire and co. Here I thought the org was week, but they have the #10, the twins, and strangely they were not too low on man-power.

Joe_fh · 2010-09-01, 17:25

Miria getting killed by a zmobie Flora would have left everyone in depair though and by everyone I mean the readers

And while I have to say from that scene Miria looked like she was brutally buthecered it really isn't certain yet. For once the imgae is really small. I don't believe we've ever seen even a somewhat major character die in a single small panel like that. I can't even tell who's doing what in that pannel

Now if next chapter starts off with a two page image of Miria's mutilated body in a similar fashoin to that Claymore ( I really liked her but can't remember her name - the one that told Clare about Jean's team in the Withc's Maw ark and died - she sure was an awesome warrior strugling to stay alive just so she could try and find helt for her comrades). And iamgine a distorted smile on her face and eyes that showed she never really knew what happend.

Shiek927 · 2010-09-01, 17:28

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Originally Posted by Awakened

Clare is already a leader, she is just trying to avoid taking on the responsibilities. Look at most of the fight were Clare took over as the leader.

That's exactly what I mean; in those situations, It was Claire who suddenly, undeniably with luck, pulled through and ended up changing the course of the fight....

.....That's exactly the kind of person you DON'T want as a leader.

You don't want to rely on luck or gambles, not someone who may or may not suddenly reveal unfathomable power and save everyone's hides. Claire was the opposite of Miria in that regard. One is emotional and has depths to her power, wheras the other is cool-headed and we know what she is capable of.

Claire....just isn't the right material; Irene said it best in that her cool-face is just a mask. Someone like Miria, who really was icy, is someone more preferable(though someone who also cares and is more appreciative of her teammates would help too....a shame that we never saw Miria smile more).

irvinethearcher · 2010-09-01, 17:29

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Originally Posted by Ryus

No I haven't seen the full chapter but the 6 spoiler pics that have been found flowed together very well. There might be a page between the first 2 and the next 4 but I wouldn't bet on it.

Your right she isn't leadership material at this point in time... but neither was guts in Berserk but now he's filling the roles better and better. Clare does have the power, abilities, and intelligence to lead the ghosts... she just needs to choose living and her friends over revenge and/or death/awakening.

Good point, guts was always concerned about his comrades and the hawks sensed that and trusted him. Guts and clare have in a way a lot in common. If clare survives her encounter with priscilla she would be even a better leader than miria. But i somehow doubt we will clare see the way she was again.

Newhope · 2010-09-01, 17:31

The only one I can see leading is Dietrich as the only Ghost other than Miria thats capably of leading is Claire and she's got a death wish and other wise preoccupied with been an all consuming super monster.

Ryus · 2010-09-01, 17:33

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Originally Posted by irvinethearcher

Good point, guts was always concerned about his comrades and the hawks sensed that and trusted him. Guts and clare have in a way a lot in common. If clare survives her encounter with priscilla she would be even a better leader than miria. But i somehow doubt we will clare see the way she was again.

True... the plot set up from hear appears to be for a war/confrontation, not a keep Casca safe plot. So hopefully we'll see Clare as a general rather than a mother/tutor.

irvinethearcher · 2010-09-01, 17:41

if we see her again at all. the way she is now who knows what will happen. I think that clare will go through a metamorphosis now that she is inside that thing. But she has to see raki again so she has still a purpose to serve.

Joe_fh · 2010-09-01, 17:41

Btw that TTGL pralell isn't really that good. For one Simon was never really that confident nor did he ever tried to be. However, he had a huge responsibility (because of what he could do, even if he didn't want to) and yet because of what heppend he trew it all away until he found his new reason to live and fight. In other words he had to become a leader yet he was trying to run away completely from reality.

Tabitha on the other hand is neither that important nor does she have any responsibilty as the strongest warrior. She can't become a leader now. I would even say for the next year or more she wouldn't be even fit as a warrior - she just deosn't seem like the type of character that would overcome the death of the person she admired the most in a flash.

As a weak character (she is one at the moment) the best she could do is not to break down completely and seing what happend after Miria cut her I doubt this would be the case. It's a lot more probable she would completely break down, be overcomed my rage and since those lead to awakening she would go into a complete frenzy , which I believe Galatea or someone else would have to stop. If that doesn't happen she'll just break down crying and just sit there in disbelief. However if Claymore showed us something it's that characters that go down that path unconciously awaken due to their emotions.

Awakened · 2010-09-01, 17:45

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Originally Posted by Ryus

True... the plot set up from hear appears to be for a war/confrontation, not a keep Casca safe plot. So hopefully we'll see Clare as a general rather than a mother/tutor.

Yep this means WAR!

Yagi involved the Claymores in killing (not sure yet) Miria, this will make it easier to kill them.

Mizuno · 2010-09-01, 17:49

This is disappointing if it is true.. Miria dying is certainly a huge loss. If Deneve and Helen can luck out so many times, why can't Miria? But anyway, for Miria the most collected and intelligent member of the Ghost to die in a suicidal mission is a bit lame. At the very least, if she dies, she'd be like Jiraiya and be able to relay back some sort of message to Clare before she goes. This is such a waste to have her not accomplish anything at all.

Awakened · 2010-09-01, 17:50

Stop blaming Miria for going it alone. Think of the situation for a bit. The rest of the Ghost were up against impossible odds. Just look at how they survived (pure luck).

It is perfectly reasonable for Miria to think that Clare and her group might die. Why wait for a miracle when you can go up against weak humans by yourself.

theevilanimal · 2010-09-01, 17:52

I can see tabitha getting revenge on the org, happily slaying the current warriors, and then awaken

Shiek927 · 2010-09-01, 17:53

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Originally Posted by Awakened

Stop blaming Miria for going it alone. Think of the situation for a bit. The rest of the Ghost were up against impossible odds. Just look at how they survived (pure luck).

It is perfectly reasonable for Miria to think that Clare and her group might die. Why wait for a miracle when you can go up against weak humans by yourself.

Because Miria didn't go because she was being strategic, or anything like that; she went, apparantely doing all the Ghosts a favor, when it's one they probably don't even want.

I do feel interested in reading Revan's story now

; in general, this chapter has put me in a Miria mood

Ryus · 2010-09-01, 18:00

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Originally Posted by Shiek927

Because Miria didn't go because she was being strategic, or anything like that; she went, apparantely doing all the Ghosts a favor, when it's one they probably don't even want.

I do feel interested in reading Revan's story now

; in general, this chapter has put me in a Miria mood

This is clearly going to be a Miria focused month...

[ponders how many bodyguards Yagi must have hired this month...

]

Awakened · 2010-09-01, 18:00

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Originally Posted by Shiek927

Because Miria didn't go because she was being strategic, or anything like that; she went, apparantely doing all the Ghosts a favor, when it's one they probably don't even want.

I do feel interested in reading Revan's story now

; in general, this chapter has put me in a Miria mood

If she is dead, do you think the rest of the Ghost would just give up and go in hiding?

She must have thought that she could have won by herself. Galatea was talking about Miria killing humans for the first time, not going on a suicide mission.

Newhope · 2010-09-01, 18:04

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Originally Posted by Shiek927

Because Miria didn't go because she was being strategic, or anything like that; she went, apparantely doing all the Ghosts a favor, when it's one they probably don't even want.

I do feel interested in reading Revan's story now

; in general, this chapter has put me in a Miria mood

Thats the thing she was been strategic.

Ryus · 2010-09-01, 18:05

Maybe Tabitha can tell Priscilla that if she goes to org hq right now they have the power to trick her into seeing Teresa everywhere... so she can kill her dozens of times. Thus removing either Priscilla and/or the org.

Joe_fh · 2010-09-01, 18:11

@Fukitsu Naruto: Well their roles as characters are really different and thus the responibilities each one of them bares. So after the perosn they love/admire the most dies, they would act in different ways. In short Tabitha doesn't have what Simon did to get him out of that misserable state.
Everyone have the respondibility to live her life to the fullest as a survivor but that's only a responsibility they carry as individuals. Tabitha isn't strong, she isn't a great tactician - she just doesn't have the burden of leadership Miria had (or Simon).
She'll just break down completely and probably nrealy awaken- that's the most logical conclusion I see. Not much room for development really.

And I just now noticed that the page that shows Miria getting killed is a big two page one. ( previously only saw the "cleared up" version Ryus posted) So there goes my last hope of Miria being alive since I though she got sliced in a small pannel and not in something liket...that.

@Ryus well if it worked on Miria why shouldn't it work on Prissy? The shrimps will just have to stab her for a couple of days while Prissy is reliving her happy days as a child chasing butterflies on a sunny afternoon

Oh and am I the only one that can't actually see Miria on the last picture?

I mean I just can't see her body -was she that brutally buthecred

MalakTawus · 2010-09-01, 18:18

Where are now the people that said that going against the org alone now was a good idea while me and others said that it was something stupid?
Say what you want but Miria dies in a stupid way (but it's a very cool death at least,with a big impact).
Now i'll await patiently that Claire learns about Miria's death,loses control and attacks the org destroying everything in her path.
Come on Claire!I want revenge!!!
Tabitha can't be the ghost's leader,she is too weak.
The only one that should be the ghost's leader is Claire since she is intelligent and her powers are on a whole other level compared to the others,the only problem is that she is more a lone wolf than a leader,but that could be a good chance for Yagi to develop further Claire now that she can't avoid her responsabilities.
If Claire goes on a rampage i think the only other options as leader would be Gala or Deneve.

.......now that i think about it Claire still have a "little" problem named Priscilla that she as to deal with.......
imo during the fight between CtD and Prissy,Claire feels Miria's death and goes crazy......ehm,i mean MORE crazy......

[thousandmaster] · 2010-09-01, 18:20

Yes, finally. A ghost has met her demise. I knew she was going to die, facing the Org all by her lone self which I said it was an extremely bad idea. So it became true. Nice!

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Joe_fh Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009	Miria getting killed by a zmobie Flora would have left everyone in depair though and by everyone I mean the readers And while I have to say from that scene Miria looked like she was brutally buthecered it really isn't certain yet. For once the imgae is really small. I don't believe we've ever seen even a somewhat major character die in a single small panel like that. I can't even tell who's doing what in that pannel Now if next chapter starts off with a two page image of Miria's mutilated body in a similar fashoin to that Claymore ( I really liked her but can't remember her name - the one that told Clare about Jean's team in the Withc's Maw ark and died - she sure was an awesome warrior strugling to stay alive just so she could try and find helt for her comrades). And iamgine a distorted smile on her face and eyes that showed she never really knew what happend. Last edited by Joe_fh; 2010-09-01 at 17:44.

2010-09-01, 17:41	Link #207
irvinethearcher Angriest Angel Join Date: Nov 2007	if we see her again at all. the way she is now who knows what will happen. I think that clare will go through a metamorphosis now that she is inside that thing. But she has to see raki again so she has still a purpose to serve. __________________

2010-09-01, 17:50	Link #211
Awakened Clare's #1 fan Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida	Stop blaming Miria for going it alone. Think of the situation for a bit. The rest of the Ghost were up against impossible odds. Just look at how they survived (pure luck). It is perfectly reasonable for Miria to think that Clare and her group might die. Why wait for a miracle when you can go up against weak humans by yourself. __________________ Miria is alive

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Ryus The One Eyed King Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lurking Up Ahead	Maybe Tabitha can tell Priscilla that if she goes to org hq right now they have the power to trick her into seeing Teresa everywhere... so she can kill her dozens of times. Thus removing either Priscilla and/or the org. __________________

2010-09-01, 17:25	Link #201
Nixl Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009	Or...Tabitha becomes emo. I vote Yuma for president. It's all in that over-hanging stretch of hair. This also makes me wonder of what the worse possible situation that could happen next. Possibly, the org launches a counter-attack on either Rabona or Claire and co. Here I thought the org was week, but they have the #10, the twins, and strangely they were not too low on man-power.

2010-09-01, 17:31	Link #205
Newhope Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008	The only one I can see leading is Dietrich as the only Ghost other than Miria thats capably of leading is Claire and she's got a death wish and other wise preoccupied with been an all consuming super monster.

2010-09-01, 17:41	Link #208
Joe_fh Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009	Btw that TTGL pralell isn't really that good. For one Simon was never really that confident nor did he ever tried to be. However, he had a huge responsibility (because of what he could do, even if he didn't want to) and yet because of what heppend he trew it all away until he found his new reason to live and fight. In other words he had to become a leader yet he was trying to run away completely from reality. Tabitha on the other hand is neither that important nor does she have any responsibilty as the strongest warrior. She can't become a leader now. I would even say for the next year or more she wouldn't be even fit as a warrior - she just deosn't seem like the type of character that would overcome the death of the person she admired the most in a flash. As a weak character (she is one at the moment) the best she could do is not to break down completely and seing what happend after Miria cut her I doubt this would be the case. It's a lot more probable she would completely break down, be overcomed my rage and since those lead to awakening she would go into a complete frenzy , which I believe Galatea or someone else would have to stop. If that doesn't happen she'll just break down crying and just sit there in disbelief. However if Claymore showed us something it's that characters that go down that path unconciously awaken due to their emotions.

2010-09-01, 17:49	Link #210
Mizuno Undefined Join Date: May 2004 Location: With the gods Age: 40	This is disappointing if it is true.. Miria dying is certainly a huge loss. If Deneve and Helen can luck out so many times, why can't Miria? But anyway, for Miria the most collected and intelligent member of the Ghost to die in a suicidal mission is a bit lame. At the very least, if she dies, she'd be like Jiraiya and be able to relay back some sort of message to Clare before she goes. This is such a waste to have her not accomplish anything at all.

2010-09-01, 17:52	Link #212
theevilanimal ABducting claymores Join Date: May 2008 Location: Galatea sous la douche	I can see tabitha getting revenge on the org, happily slaying the current warriors, and then awaken

2010-09-01, 18:11	Link #218
Joe_fh Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009	@Fukitsu Naruto: Well their roles as characters are really different and thus the responibilities each one of them bares. So after the perosn they love/admire the most dies, they would act in different ways. In short Tabitha doesn't have what Simon did to get him out of that misserable state. Everyone have the respondibility to live her life to the fullest as a survivor but that's only a responsibility they carry as individuals. Tabitha isn't strong, she isn't a great tactician - she just doesn't have the burden of leadership Miria had (or Simon). She'll just break down completely and probably nrealy awaken- that's the most logical conclusion I see. Not much room for development really. And I just now noticed that the page that shows Miria getting killed is a big two page one. ( previously only saw the "cleared up" version Ryus posted) So there goes my last hope of Miria being alive since I though she got sliced in a small pannel and not in something liket...that. @Ryus well if it worked on Miria why shouldn't it work on Prissy? The shrimps will just have to stab her for a couple of days while Prissy is reliving her happy days as a child chasing butterflies on a sunny afternoon Oh and am I the only one that can't actually see Miria on the last picture? I mean I just can't see her body -was she that brutally buthecred

2010-09-01, 18:18	Link #219
MalakTawus Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Italy	Where are now the people that said that going against the org alone now was a good idea while me and others said that it was something stupid? Say what you want but Miria dies in a stupid way (but it's a very cool death at least,with a big impact). Now i'll await patiently that Claire learns about Miria's death,loses control and attacks the org destroying everything in her path. Come on Claire!I want revenge!!! Tabitha can't be the ghost's leader,she is too weak. The only one that should be the ghost's leader is Claire since she is intelligent and her powers are on a whole other level compared to the others,the only problem is that she is more a lone wolf than a leader,but that could be a good chance for Yagi to develop further Claire now that she can't avoid her responsabilities. If Claire goes on a rampage i think the only other options as leader would be Gala or Deneve. .......now that i think about it Claire still have a "little" problem named Priscilla that she as to deal with....... imo during the fight between CtD and Prissy,Claire feels Miria's death and goes crazy......ehm,i mean MORE crazy......

2010-09-01, 18:20	Link #220
[thousandmaster] Killimanjaro Specialist Join Date: Dec 2007	Yes, finally. A ghost has met her demise. I knew she was going to die, facing the Org all by her lone self which I said it was an extremely bad idea. So it became true. Nice!