(L) Claymore Manga

[Nightengale]

Personally, I found the stitch wound reveal to be ingenious.

It's simplistically grotesque, without having to rely on the much expected 'transplanted demons' cliche. And due to how simple it is, how gross and revolting it is depends just as much on the eyes of the beholder.

In a manga-art view, there's nothing terribly ugly about just having a massive stitch wound across the body. In real life, imagine a freshly stitched wound that's constantly unstable and woozy, and you can see the hints of the deep flesh inside with slight movements.

[j0x]

Originally Posted by Nightengale

Personally, I found the stitch wound reveal to be ingenious.

i agree for someone who has a good imagination i find it scary

it might be that the reason those wound wont heal is because the human body and the demons body are rejecting each other (Transplant Rejection)

before this revelation i thought the head of Theresa is on the belly of Claire

[-Sho-]

Finally they met , i've been waiting for this ^^
Same for the scary body. Can't wait next chap to see how Clare will react.

[Ryus]

Originally Posted by creb

Yea, sorry, that reveal of what a Claymore's front looks like was a big let down.

Right. I think Ryus needs to post the several hundred images from previous chapters which clearly did not show any stitches or gashes as Claymores had their clothes and armor ripped apart in battle.

/poke
/poke

Anyways, looks like there'll be another emotional outburst from Raki once he realizes that it really is Priscilla.

Lastly, it's good to see you back Claire. It's only been how many RL years?



I realize, after all the years we've been reading this manga, that memory can get fuzzy, but I could have sworn there have been strong insinuations that Claymores can, and do, have sex with humans. Fetish jokes aside, it seems some retcon is in order.

LOLZ... how did you know (minus the tons of pics since I don't have time atm to do so, but trust me I'll likely post them soon enough (though these next 3 days are kinda packed for me).

Just got to read the chapter and not just look at the Chinese scans pics (Long week, and haven't had a chance to read any posts here so sorry if this has been brought up before). Well, I'm confused... have the warrior "scars" actually been stitched up open wounds this entire time. That make's no sense and conflicts with tons of fights and a few panels where we saw the belly had no stigma on it.

When Clare reemerged from The Destroyer we saw her belly from a side view (but at a bit of a distance). There was no stitching... plus she never resowed herself back together after. So apparently she fought Priscilla with her guts still hanging out since she just threw her ghosts uniform on top of her open chest and belly (which the guts should have spilled out from almost instantly if that was the case when she was trying to dress... let alone when the hellcat rod blew open half of her side).

Plus in ch 47 page 2 we did see Jeans naked belly (a lot closer up) and there was no scar, nor stitching at that time. Then she processed to fight all but naked through out the entire rest of the arc without any of the problems an open stomach would logically create.

No matter how you look at this, there seems to be no logical explanation other than Yagi just decided to make the scar go all the way down more recently. The still open chest is one thing but the belly we know is a new addition here since we have seen there bellies before and it conflicts with previous exploits that couldn't have been done with an open belly.

That said an open belly would explain why Miata hates water, since an open gut would fill up like a water balloon, I'd imagine that would be... uncomfortable, to say the least. Thus likely explaining, beyond the obvious fan service, why Clare twice washed herself in the water by standing in it up to her thighs and rubbing water higher since she too didn't want to have water rush into her open wound. That said the gut filling with water didn't effect her during her fight with Ophelia either.

Honestly though, I'm just wondering what kinda super stitches they use... since we've yet to hear about any of them tearing thus rendering a warrior not able to fight anymore. I mean you'd think a non closing wound would prevent them from fighting at super human levels like they do, let alone moving around at human speeds. Clearly those stitches are almost as strong as their swords and don't rip open their flesh either... but also not as strong either since a few warriors have been ripped in half thus cutting the stitching in half too.

Sometimes being a fan (of any series) who remembers the details is painful...

As to warriors having sex, Cassandra and Roxanna did "share a pillow" and I'd be shocked if Rachel and Audrey weren't lovers too. Helen also did tease Clare that Raki was her "play thing" which clearly implies a sexual relationship too. So yes, there was past statements that clearly imply the stigma becoming an constantly open wound from throat to vagina just isn't the case. I feel this was a late change Yagi just felt like and he ignored or forgot about other events in the series to make it happen. It's a shame really when authors do that.

The other sex references in the series either involved awakened beings and humans (Agatha and Cid) or yoma raping a human (young Clare and her captors).

[DragoZERO]

Well, deus ex machina chapter here. I'm not going to complain too much, cause it had to happen at some point and I am happy with was Raki who was the one who called out to Clare.

The front of their bodies... that is a simple yet gross thing. They probably use very tough stitching too. I have to say though, I expected something more complex.

And I will miss the black outfits. I don't know why they would go back to the "Claymore" uniforms... the Org is gone now.

[thundrakkon]

Originally Posted by DragoZERO

And I will miss the black outfits. I don't know why they would go back to the "Claymore" uniforms... the Org is gone now.

I think it has more to do with wearing armor than representing the organization. Their old black outfits did not provide any form of protection, and they are heading into a huge battle. Besides, Claire lost her uniform, and another one would probably take time to make.

[creb]

Originally Posted by thundrakkon

I think it has more to do with wearing armor than representing the organization. Their old black outfits did not provide any form of protection, and they are heading into a huge battle. Besides, Claire lost her uniform, and another one would probably take time to make.

I don't know what manga you've been reading, where the original Claymore outfits provided any protection whatsoever.

Though this brings up a good question. Where did they get their black outfits from in the first place?

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by creb

Where did they get their black outfits from in the first place?

Maybe they found some black cloth in the abandoned cities they visited and sew it.

[Blaat]

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

Maybe they found some black cloth in the abandoned cities they visited and sew it.

Well there were plenty of bodies after the Pietta fight and several awakened being had animal like appearances so...

[Solace]

Originally Posted by Ryus

Honestly though, I'm just wondering what kinda super stitches they use... since we've yet to hear about any of them tearing thus rendering a warrior not able to fight anymore. I mean you'd think a non closing wound would prevent them from fighting at super human levels like they do, let alone moving around at human speeds. Clearly those stitches are almost as strong as their swords and don't rip open their flesh either... but also not as strong either since a few warriors have been ripped in half thus cutting the stitching in half too.

My guess is the stiches are made of Yoma flesh. Originally, sutures were made from plant and animal material, like catgut, which was made from animal intestines.

This would allow the flesh to "heal" and presumably leave a scar or at the very least a closed wound. It's probably not as prominent on "adult" Claymore as it might be on a younger one due to having more control over regeneration (can't heal it permanently, but can keep it closed with minimal effort). In Clare's case I speculate hers reopened because of her reconstruction from her previous state before she merged with the Destroyer.

In any case, it is inconsistent when you think about it, but I don't think any answer would satisfy perfectly. This is more a case of the author being forced to finally explain something that was intended to be ambiguous forever but realizing later on that it couldn't be kept that way. For that reason I find the explanation pretty clever. It's consistent with the biology we've seen so far, is pretty grotesque if you think about it in terms of how humans would react to it, and the explanation also covers how they make Claymores (by literally stuffing people with flesh, which further highlights the cruelty of the Org and why Claymore are physically and mentally "damaged goods").

It could never match the hype, which is Yagi's fault, but it is explained and resolved so now we can move on to something more important: a very pissed Priscilla and what is left of the Destroyer, with nothing holding them back.

Oddly I felt more interested in Raki this chapter despite my happiness of seeing Clare again. I'm extremely curious about why he is so strong. I hope it isn't simply plot armor.

[creb]

Originally Posted by Solace

Oddly I felt more interested in Raki this chapter despite my happiness of seeing Clare again. I'm extremely curious about why he is so strong. I hope it isn't simply plot armor.

Maybe Isley's pathetic death was because he's fused some of his essence with Raki!

I'm joking. Sort of.

[Mamesushi]

Originally Posted by creb

Maybe Isley's pathetic death was because he's fused some of his essence with Raki!

I'm joking. Sort of.

Well, that makes some sense But even if it's not that, he was trained by the abyssal one and former claymore Isley so no surprise he is strong, also, he just fought against normal soldiers of the organization and a normal youma, it's obvious he has no chance against an awakened.. or could I be wrong?

[DragoZERO]

Originally Posted by Solace

In Clare's case I speculate hers reopened because of her reconstruction from her previous state before she merged with the Destroyer.

Yagi did make a mistake with that. Clare came out from the Destroyer when it was first created with no problems. Why is it this time that she is "untreated" like she is?

It could never match the hype, which is Yagi's fault, but it is explained and resolved so now we can move on to something more important: a very pissed Priscilla and what is left of the Destroyer, with nothing holding them back.

In Yagi's defense, he didn't create the hype - the fans did. I wish he hadn't addressed this and just left it a mystery.

Oddly I felt more interested in Raki this chapter despite my happiness of seeing Clare again. I'm extremely curious about why he is so strong. I hope it isn't simply plot armor.

I think it's part plot armor, growing so tall, and part his time with Isley and Priscilla. No other human has ever learned to fight like a Claymore and he has probably trained every day of his life.

[Gooral]

Originally Posted by DragoZERO

Yagi did make a mistake with that. Clare came out from the Destroyer when it was first created with no problems. Why is it this time that she is "untreated" like she is?

The answer is simple - time. When Clare was absorbed by Destroyer not even one day has passed when she got out and she surely was treated a while earlier. In the blob she spent at least a month without any treatment whatsoever.

[yuzen003]

Just a theory, but perhaps the wound reopening is because Clare had to be rebuilt. In chapter 104 before she was absorded by the Destroyer her legs and part of her midsection were gone. The first time she was absorbed she was intact so no rebuild necessary.

Side note that being absorbed by the Destroyer will allow offensive types to regenerate beyond normal capabilities. That leads to the question of is this an avenue for reviving Teresa since as part of Clare she was also absorbed in the Destroyer?

[Ryus]

After some internal debate of where the most appropriate place to post these was I'm choosing to post these Fake ch 130 and ch 131 fan made doujins. Thought you all would get a kick out of them. If they get moved to another thread I'd understand but I did think in the end their is enough of a prediction of what will happen to warrant posting them here. Even though they are mostly comedic, their is a clear opinion about power levels in it IMHO and opinion of lack of motivation of one of the parties involved to get involved at all that I believed they should end up here and not in the image thread. This is more so in ch 131, than ch 130 though but even ch 131 is comedic (both still have clear opinions of power levels though)

Note: Cassandra is in them but I edited out the nipples that was on a few pages, I'd still call it NSFW though. Pics are thumbnails

Spoiler for Ch 130:

Spoiler for Ch 131:

Now this artist has posted tons of his/her other sketches (I think about 45 and 30, or so, fanarts by other artists) which I'll soon be posting on the image thread. Hope you enjoy this and the upcoming pics.

[DragoZERO]

Originally Posted by Gooral

The answer is simple - time. When Clare was absorbed by Destroyer not even one day has passed when she got out and she surely was treated a while earlier. In the blob she spent at least a month without any treatment whatsoever.

Being absorbed and being rebuilt is all that matter. Time is not a factor. Maybe I have to go back and read those chapters again.

[klare]

ah the happy ending, i knew Raki will cry

and finally one of the biggest mysteries is revealed, i guess the warriors have to carry stitching tools with them all the time

[Ryus]

Chinese scan is out

Spoiler for ch 130:

Summary.
Priscilla escapes tries to eat many of the ABs fails to kill or harm the named ones but desovlves the unnamed ones like the Destroyer sucking the life out of trees.

Chronos talks a bit about her, likely explaining why she can suck out life but seems weaker *sigh

Most new ABs abilities look cool... one of the new ABs looks like an Angel Densetsu character (think he was in last chapter and I just never paced it...) Since his character and Clare's character never got along I'm going to LMAO if Clare kills him.

The Ghosts and Galatea have gathered and are watching (no Clare yet, or Clarice/Miata) and Galatea didn't bring her sword. Lots of talking... end with bunch of them having group moment that bored me to tears. Oh and Clare shows up in warrior armor and Deneve returns her sword to her (Deneve lost hers in ch 104) so she is now just using Undine's. The ghost all have a joining swords moment for 5 whole pages but at least we are given numbers which I'm presuming are their gen numbers... like Teresa being of gen _ warrior _ (forget the number atm).

--

Well anyways, assuming all the ghosts are from the same generation here is their generation warrior numbers in order

Miria 127, Yuma 129, Cynthia 132, Deneve 135, Helen also 135 (O.o do they share the same yoma inside them or is this a typo), Tabitha 141, Clare 150

[zzhk]

That time of the month again...

Spoiler for Chapter 130 Summary:

In the instant that Claire appeared, Miria exceeded her youriki limits to unleash her Phantom Blade against the black blob. This was probably the fastest possible attack from the body of a warrior, but the attack still missed.
Priscilla is released as all the spectator awakened beings watch.
One of them, Chronus, casually comments how strange it is that Priscilla neither chose to feast on the humans in Rabona nor slaughter the warriors around her, instead she came to them instead...
As the AB warns the others to dodge, Priscilla attacks in all directions with black tentacles, impaling some of the ABs.
Many of the ABs reveal their awakened forms and go offensive.
Suddenly, one of them turns dark and falls down looking all dried up.
Chronus speculates that though the seal has been broken, full freedom has not yet been obtained.
The true battle will begin once the remnants of the black blob constricting Priscilla are gone.
Chronus explains to Laz that there are two entities there, one of them desires even greater power, which is why it brought them to where all the ABs were gathered.
Chronus warns Laz to watch out, he expects at most half of the ABs to survive.
Meanwhile, Galatea is watching with the rest of the Ghosts.
The life and death struggle, with an ultimate monster surpassing Abyssals on one side, and a mindless organism that devours all life on the other.
The side that wins the power struggle will gain control of the body.
Yuma asks which side winning would be better.
Deneve comments that no matter which side wins, hell will arrive.
Currently, the mindless organism has a slight advantage but the situation can change instantly once the incoming Abyssal arrives and assimilates with them.
Claire arrives, dressed in her old warrior outfit.
Helen laughs, saying how it reminds her of Claire's past ineptness.
Claire explains to everyone that the monster is Priscilla, the one who decapitated then-No. 1 Teresa.
Claire recounts how Teresa saved her and opposed the organization, and finally how she took Teresa's head to join and become a warrior on her own free will, thus becoming the 1/4 youma warrior.
Surprises all around.
Claire declares that avenging Teresa is her entire meaning in life and nothing will stop her.
Miria gives Claire her old sword back, commenting how it must be fate that the sword was left behind when the blob disappeared, and now reunites with her.
Miria asks if Claire's bonds and past experiences with everyone else was truly meaningless.
Miria says Claire's life means far more than revenge, so too bad, she cannot stop everyone from joining in her duel with the monster.
Claire agrees they are all her irreplaceable friends and companions, so they must all survive.
The Seven put their swords together and affirm their camaraderie.
"Let's go. This is our final unfinished task as warriors of the organization."