(L) Akane-Iro ni Somaru Saka

[eiyuu99]

Spoiler:

1. Minato returned specifically for Junichi.
Note the flashback by Junchi, where Genokiller treated Minato harshly and then her confession.
This implies Junichi did not regard her as an important sibling at first and Minato had to work hard to achieve her current importance.

2. Minato's appeal to Junichi.
Compare Junchi's reaction to Minato and other girls, like Yuuhi, in various episodes, despite believing they are siblings.

3. Minato's virtues to Junichi
Minato takes care of Junichi unconditionally, whether he's sick or healthy.
She is able to accept his quirks.
She is gorgeous and cooks great food.
She is gentle and understanding.
A perfect wife ne?

4. Minato's importance to Junichi
Before anyone calls Junichi a wuss, note his soliloquy in the last episode.
It shows his internal conflict about his emotions. "Imouto suki da"


Although Junichi has confessed to Minato,
for some reason I seem to visualize the three of them living together...wait, they do

[FuzzyWuzzy]

I didn't like the ending. Period.

[PNGO]

wow I just heard they are releasing an OAV for this masterpiece! AWWWsome!

[shaolinx]

Originally Posted by Xanas

Ehh, as far as all the comments here going in the direction of "well they aren't related" lets keep in mind that as far as both of them know they are. They both believe they are related.

So it is pretty icky if you have been ingrained to have a problem with incest, as most of us obviously have.
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You know, thats really a strong argument! But you know, I always had a feeling that minato kinda knew that there were never related.

Its really hard to justify what the guy is thinking though, and it seems like hes totally going for her only because of hawtness level(who can blame him? :P)

[justinstrife]

Originally Posted by shaolinx

You know, thats really a strong argument! But you know, I always had a feeling that minato kinda knew that there were never related.

Its really hard to justify what the guy is thinking though, and it seems like hes totally going for her only because of hawtness level(who can blame him? :P)

Most guys do this at some time or another. We're ingrained that way.

The thing with incest, is most societies in this world will be extremely negative about such relationships, but not all societies or cultures do. Just because something is viewed wrong in America for example, does not mean it'll be viewed the same way in Japan. I think a lot of people bring their own society views into the discussion, and assume that everyone else's countries are the same way, when that's not necessarily true.

[FateAnomaly]

I am pretty sure Japan don't approve of incest either. Apart from ancient Egyptians i can't think of any cultures that do.

[shaolinx]

Originally Posted by FateAnomaly

I am pretty sure Japan don't approve of incest either. Apart from ancient Egyptians i can't think of any cultures that do.

I was pretty sure that old Europe approved of inbreeding too. You know, to keep the royal blood line in the family and such?

[Magin]

... well, finished this series off, and I can honestly say this is right up there with Rosario to Vampire in terms of horrible endings

But i agree with what everyone else said: if more Minato development had been done, then no problem. But they did her all in the beginning, and then turned to Yuuhi after that... the only thing might save this for me is the fact that Yuuhi came back to live with them and returned to being a tsundere (as hot as Minato is, I'll take the harem ending over her ending). Hopefully, the OAV is true, and we get a Yuuhi type ending there

If the game is good, then I'm really starting to hate anime that's been adapted from the original source because the most recent of it, in an attempt to do an original story, has been horrible...

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by shaolinx

I was pretty sure that old Europe approved of inbreeding too. You know, to keep the royal blood line in the family and such?

Between cousins, yes. Not siblings. (Note, keep it up for a few generations, and it quickly become worse than a single instance of brother-sister incest. Which makes me think: wouldn't it be a fun twist to learn that Jun and Minato's parents are also siblings? )

[klowny]

i also think the ending wasn't good but i would have hated it more if he chose the other one. Also she's hot (lol)

[Tabris]

So, I just started watching this.

Even though I know the ending is horrible, I'm enjoying the show.

Seriously though, about the ending. What the hell? I don't even care about the incest, it's just the wrong choice haha

[alu546]

I think incest is wrong, but it is also seemingly wrong to inject my personal views into a fictional series.

I dont think it was fair to leave Minato so underdeveloped, but as far as her general personality goes.........I recall most people loving her in the beginning and not minding the incest part at all.

So I like her the most in the end anyway.

[Tabris]

But Yuuhi seems like so much more of a better character.

You know, like the one who was destined to win.

Now I know how Kaede fans felt in Shuffle haha

I kid, I'm not too fussed.

[royrbff]

Originally Posted by Tabris

But Yuuhi seems like so much more of a better character.

You know, like the one who was destined to win.

Now I know how Kaede fans felt in Shuffle haha

I kid, I'm not too fussed.

The worse is that the anime is center in the development of Yuuhi and her relationship with Junichi. I dont know why the director go for the Minato ending, it have no sense at all.

[alu546]

Popularity perhaps?

If that were the case, then they messed upp the series and not just the ending in terms of their developement.

Or maybe they were anticipating everyone loving the Tsundere loli (atleast in the beginning)

But again, I am a sucker for the derderes, i havent seen shuffle, but if I had, from a general character view I probably wouldve liked Kaede the most too.

[willyvereb]

I enjoyed the series...but the ending was pretty mesed up.
First:Minato has near to zero development and we only have slight indications to that but they chose the "incest ending"(most likely not true incest...too many hints that they're not related).
Second:Makes no sense that he decided now when he has someone other(Yuuhi) who fallen in love with him. Why not earlier?
Third: Then Yuuhi came back and prevents Younchi to do any perverted to Minato...I know the reason...she can't give up so easily but it's just a tool for the author to make a "Harem-ending".
Fourth(personal):I realy started to like Yuuhi(mainly at the last episodes...more mature than she looks), and i always felt that Minato has nearly zero personality(i won't be surprised if she were a hausekeeping robot. Always smiling, always perfect, always nice...a bit of overflow...She has no flaws that can make her likeable or a bit more real)

I hope the OVA has an alternative ending, because if they start to develop a character then it's needed to take care of it! In contrast they're droped her at the last episode...The editor had some problems surely that time.

[bleachnut]

This will go on my list of animes NOT to suggest to friends. That is incest, PERIOD. I don't care if they're not blood, even if she's adopted that is incest. The support that Minato has had has been absurdly ridiculous, and it really makes me wonder about the decency of mankind in general that anyone would root on a brother sister pairing. The end sucked, if they would have ended it with Yuuhi, it would have been a complete winner.

It doesn't matter how great your brother or sister is, you are CONDITIONED not to view a sibling in that way, EVEN if you've been separated. I wouldn't have even watched the series if I'd known up front he ended up with his sister. The closest 'related' relationship I can handle is 2nd cousins getting together. Anything closer than that, even by adoption is SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK in my mind.

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by bleachnut

The support that Minato has had has been absurdly ridiculous, and it really makes me wonder about the decency of mankind in general that anyone would root on a brother sister pairing.

Honestly, it's fiction. It isn't real. Cheering for a fictional relationship has absolutely no bearing on real life, and has absolutely no connection to "the decency of mankind". Sometimes people cheer for a character or situation simply because it's different, interesting, or fun. It's like cheering for a villain in a movie. There isn't necessarily any deep motivation or hidden meaning that threatens to rupture the very fabric of our global moral foundation.

You're entitled to your moral outrage, but there's no sense in trying to apply your arbitrary standards for acceptability in fiction to everyone else in this thread. Doing so is only going to make you look like the extreme one, and borders on trolling.

[Tabris]

Every episode I see, it gets more WHY OH WHY DID THE IMOUTO WIN?

Ah well.

[germanturkey]

Originally Posted by Tabris

Every episode I see, it gets more WHY OH WHY DID THE IMOUTO WIN?

because minato is by far the most aesthetically pleasing one. i think i said it a few pages back, but you don't win against white thighhighs on a cute girl..