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I.... *bangs head against wall* What does this have to do with the brighter colors and eye size exactly?
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2022-02-24, 16:47 | Link #23 |
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Actually, the starting trio is Ichigo, Mint, and Retatsu, and there's already some semblance there (as Ichigo and Retatsu's outfit are very similar, with the main different being that Ichigo wears puffy shorts to cover the lower portion of the showgirl leotard).
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2022-02-24, 23:38 | Link #24 | |
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Each got different design that follow idea of team based on various animals. Its not a bad thing but current target audience definitely won't be same as 2002 unless any of of us can prove otherwise which would make the outfit redesign questionable. I myself suspecting they might tweak the order because there's not many explanation to uniformed Hu-Ling and Mint other than making them the starting trio to fit RYB theme of newer tokusatsu compare to classic, Rayearth RGB like OG.
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2022-02-27, 14:51 | Link #25 | |
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In fact, when it was announced this was getting a reboot at all, my immediate first thought was, "I sure do hope it's not a fugly visual trainwreck like the first show was. That's the absolute bare minimum I'm gonna need to actually give a shit about this."
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2022-03-01, 13:36 | Link #26 | ||
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2022-03-02, 01:53 | Link #27 | |
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Tokyo Mew Mew, Cardcaptor Sakura and Magic Knight Rayearth target audiences are teenagers. It aligned with rise of popularity from Sailor Moon that portrayed teenage magical girls in comparison to one aimed for children like Minky Momo; Those three also coming from same magazine as Sailor Moon, Nakayoshi, making it somewhat popular gateway for magical girl-themed works for teenagers like Shugo Chara. That's why I repeat it multiple times. Complaint to design better come with awareness of current target audience. Precure is currently the bar of magical girls in general as they got it tough carrying Sunday with Super Hero Time. Good luck trying to succeeded if you wanted to get more audiences by just repeating 2002 design and screenplay or simply join the diluted pool of another Madoka Magica tryhard like most of magical girls story nowadays. Man, I can't believe we're reaching era where one implying MKR and CCS are on same boat as "sub-par animation for children because it makes sense like that".
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2022-03-02, 13:33 | Link #28 | ||||
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Bruh, I even OWN the magazines they were published in so don't even.
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I was talking about early 2000s shoujo. It was that awkward period of transitioning from animation cells to computer animation and stuff could look pretty wonky. Kamichama Karin's anime in fact looked so terrible it became a meme. It was painful af to see a manga series I ADORED absolutely destroyed like that. Clamp has a lot of money and fans so they can give both of them good animation. I wasn't 100% pleased with Rayearth's but Clamp's style is hard to animate. CCS does look wonderful (aside from Sakura's icky dark brown hair) though; this is why Madhouse is my favorite anime studio. Quote:
For some reason, they went with Dollar store "To-Love-ru" crap. Don't gimme the "It just looks like the new manga Ikumi drew" because no, her art is way nicer than that. Character designer needs to be fired.
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I still on opinion better watched it first to see how they do the series. Claiming someone need to be fired only if it so bad, which I don't think will happen to the character designer with Mint, Retatsu and Zakuro looking firm compare to their OG design. The first series is start airing at Tuesday afternoon; prime time even IIRC.
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2022-03-02, 22:23 | Link #31 | |
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Manga art: Anime screencap: Talk about people who need to be FIRED.... Yes, they absolutely destroyed it. The only thing they got right was the voice casting. The bare minimum. The feel was all wrong, the atmosphere was all wrong. The animation and directing were ATROCIOUS....not even the opening theme was good. "Flowed nicer than the manga!?" What are you smoking? Koge-Donbo is a wonderful mangaka; she knows exactly how to pull your heartstrings and craft beautifully strong, emotional and romantic scenes....and she also knows how to be hilarious when the situation needs it and she knows drama as well. This woman can actually make me cry when I read her manga...be it from laughter or heartbreak. The "anime" couldn't capture ANY of this beauty at all. They tried to cram 14 volumes of content and new characters into 26 rushed episodes....it was total crap. Characters went off-model so badly and so often, I swear to God, the editors had to be asleep when they reviewed it for broadcast. And yet....despite ALL of this.....it was still a better adaptation than Mamotte Lollipop. Which easily makes it into "Top Ten Worst Anime I've Ever Seen" and takes the prize for "Worst Shoujo Anime Ever Made".
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I did mentioned it lose some details, yes it happens in favor of incorporating Chu; decision making behind it likely due to inability to warrant second season. For me it still nicer because as far I could remember some of plot points IMO done poorly that I could understand if the staffs agree to take it out to free more space. I still think Doga Kobo did fair enough unless you could argue the series deserve to get higher budget and second season to separate main series and Chu. On this regards, to not derail stuff, its not like Tokyo Mew Mew (2002) free from such changes or quality either. I'm pretty sure Zakuro got complete background in anime compare to just "popular model" in manga, also Ichigo got honor to deal the finishing blow which made her position as center more justified. There should be episode where Ichigo eyes looks off as well; feel free to make rant about 2002 anime ruin things because its not faithful too.
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What it really is for me is that half of the issue is... pretty much everything about the character designs. Things like how the hair is drawn, some anatomical inconsistencies, how the clothes fit some of the characters, how some of the outfits are even drawn in and of themselves, the eye sizes, etc... And mind you, a good portion of things about the style in the anime were also things I didn't like about the look of the manga... So kudos to Pierrot for accuracy, I guess? The other half of it is that the animation isn't good quality to me. Like you said, there are a good handful other mahou shoujo anime adaptations that came out that same year or even before that looked leagues better. I'm not going to give TMM a pass just because other shows didn't have to spread their resources as far. I don't give any show of any genre, adaptation or original, that kind of a pass... almost ever. If I don't like how it looks, I just don't like how it fuckin' looks. Simple as. Quote:
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I didn't actually say that though? I said 'only a few.' Let me pull up the mahou shoujo chart, ok... These aired in the same era as Tokyo Mew Mew. I have seen most of them. I will now rate the animation for you lol Magical Taruto: not that great..the funny part is this isn't even shoujo Full Moon: switches from good to meh to bad...is the same length as TMM Princess Tutu: literally amazing. Is half the length of TMM Petite Princess Yucie: Very good. It's GAINAX. Gainax has money. Same length as Tutu Mermaid Melody: same type of animation as TMM and Full Moon, I feel. Same length too Ultra Maniac: Average to good. Same length as Tutu. Valkryie: Average...maybe. Some scenes look pretty nice but it IS aimed at otaku men...so they put in more effort to sell the dvds lol and it's only thirteen episodes. Quote:
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I'm strongly against this whole "Anime and comics are only for degenerates and basement dwellers who look and talk like apes" mindset people have nowadays. It's gross. It's also highly inaccurate. I have seen people of every kind into this hobby. Ones who talk intelligently, even eloquently...even ones who care about making a good impression and -gasp- hygiene.
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Keeping it strictly to mahou shoujo series: Arjuna, Pretear, Princess Tutu, and Petite Princess Yucie. Any mahou shoujo shows I didn't list from the span of 2001 to 2003 either had about the same level of quality as TMM, only shined a portion of the time/during certain seasons, or looked much worse than TMM to me.
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So bsically the ones I mentioned. Yeah,Pretear looks great...but it's for an older audience and very short.
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Of course not. Why? Cause it's rude. TV also censors that word for a reason. Many websites will too.
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This exchange ultimately boils down to semantics that we disagree on. Being offensive and lacking class are not one in the same, in my opinion, and I personally believe that extends to language. And even if it didn't... I'm not obligated to soothe your delicate sensibilities by censoring myself, anyway. And neither is anyone else. That is my final commentary on this matter. If it pleases you to do so, you may disregard it.
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